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The good/better locals won't.
As a matter of fact, the better locals tail their good/hot customers.
 

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Any book will cut limits or change juice credit or post up. You can usually find better limits at credit outs. Especially on off market things like cbb totals, 2h's etc.

Most agents that imo are inexperienced will say that ur max bet is 5k or 2k or whatever it is. Lots of times that means you can bet 5k on the colts in the superbowl and u can bet 5k on under 121 in the drexel added game. A managed book that lets you bet 5k on an Nfl side would probably take 100 on cbb total.

My point is with an inexperienced credit guy some times your max bet is your max bet period, which is a gold mine for the big/sharp bettor.
 
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All four books cut limits on certain people from time-to-time.

Diamond drastically cuts limits on lots of people.

Greek will limit you to $100 on teasers, make you call in all your bets, etc.

CRIS will specifically change the teaser odds on the individual accounts of players who are beating them on teasers, while leaving the "squares" with favourable teaser odds. In effect, they are kicking out the sharps while allowing the squares to continue to bet teasers.

I could go on, but I won't.

I have never heard of Diamond cutting limits on anybody, do you have a source for this (outside of the one post on SBR by some guy who claims to have seen "losing accounts get their limits cut")?

When I was talking about cut limits, I was really referring to straight bets in general. Greek may well cut you on teasers (if they catch you doing Wong teasers most likely), but they will never cut your limits on any straight bets and as with all four of the books I listed, you will never have to be worried about your money - it is safe.

Also, I have to add that I know for a fact that CRIS does not cut limits on prop bets (which include quarter bets).

I haven't heard of CRIS changing odds on teasers for sharp players, but it wouldn't shock me that much. Again, you can beat all four of the books I listed for as much as you want with the majority of bet types. There will of course be a select few exceptions (possibly international sports at Greek and CRIS)..and don't go betting steam all day as I would not be surprised if any of those four books frown on that and might ask you to stop or risk having your limits cut. But that would have to be a pretty extreme case and unlikely at CRIS and Pinny (they may threaten you, but chances are they won't follow through).
 
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So the only places that don't cut limits are exchanges? Too bad they have no liquidity.

Matchbook has plenty of liquidity. It would be easy to get down 20-40k on an MLB total (even more on an MLB side) and a lot of times, you can get down 100k on an NBA 2H side (although a most of time that amount will only be offered on ONE side, and the other side will have little to nothing being offered).
 

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You seem to know a lot. I didn't know Matchbook had so much liquidity.

Anytime I check an NBA game, I see something like $500 being offered.
 

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I have never heard of Diamond cutting limits on anybody, do you have a source for this (outside of the one post on SBR by some guy who claims to have seen "losing accounts get their limits cut")?

DSI (Diamond) will not cut your limits, you are right Billy, been with them for years, they are terrific for an 'out', 5Dimes is my primary book.
I just wished they would give you -105 reduced juice.
 
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You seem to know a lot. I didn't know Matchbook had so much liquidity.

Anytime I check an NBA game, I see something like $500 being offered.

The most I have ever seen at Matchbook on an NBA 2H was a little above $200k. Two offers for about $100k each on the same side, plus another offer for about $5k. Nothing offered on the other side.
 

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Books are not in the business of giving people money. They are like fast food companies. If they find that a location (Joe Sharp gambler) is causing them to bleed money they just get rid of the location. What else would you expect? Of course some books are inefficient just like some fast food companies. of course it takes time to realize that a location is losing money. A sharp gambler will take advantage of such inefficiencies. Don't count on them to last for ever.
 

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never had a book cut a limit on me; although i lost the games i should win with backdoor covers and lose the games i should lose.

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I have never heard of Diamond cutting limits on anybody, do you have a source for this (outside of the one post on SBR by some guy who claims to have seen "losing accounts get their limits cut")?

When I was talking about cut limits, I was really referring to straight bets in general. Greek may well cut you on teasers (if they catch you doing Wong teasers most likely), but they will never cut your limits on any straight bets and as with all four of the books I listed, you will never have to be worried about your money - it is safe.

Also, I have to add that I know for a fact that CRIS does not cut limits on prop bets (which include quarter bets).

I haven't heard of CRIS changing odds on teasers for sharp players, but it wouldn't shock me that much. Again, you can beat all four of the books I listed for as much as you want with the majority of bet types. There will of course be a select few exceptions (possibly international sports at Greek and CRIS)..and don't go betting steam all day as I would not be surprised if any of those four books frown on that and might ask you to stop or risk having your limits cut. But that would have to be a pretty extreme case and unlikely at CRIS and Pinny (they may threaten you, but chances are they won't follow through).

When I was doing Wong teasers I never got my limits cut. But then again I was about breaking even that year. I would be willing to bet you are right if someone is winning with Wong teasers.
 

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Books are not in the business of giving people money. They are like fast food companies. If they find that a location (Joe Sharp gambler) is causing them to bleed money they just get rid of the location. What else would you expect? Of course some books are inefficient just like some fast food companies. of course it takes time to realize that a location is losing money. A sharp gambler will take advantage of such inefficiencies. Don't count on them to last for ever.

any knowledgeable bookmaker will make more money and reduce their overall risk if they book sharp action. pinnacle is a classic example.

the book managers in vegas are clueless on how to book and thus dont want sharp action.
 

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DSI (Diamond) will not cut your limits, you are right Billy, been with them for years, they are terrific for an 'out', 5Dimes is my primary book.
I just wished they would give you -105 reduced juice.

Geez, man ... just because they haven't cut YOUR limits, doesn't mean they don't cut other people's limits.

How do I know ? Well, it happened to me, for one. That's enough proof for me.

In addition, I personally know another person that it happened to. Plus I've read comments from 5 or 10 other posters at SBR, Sports Forum World, and some other forums who have said the same thing happened to them.
 

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