Horrible Situation For Bookmakers

[FairWarning]

On the flip side, I bet off some of my TB series bet last night with Philly. Not only do I have a winner on Philly, TB has a slightly better chance of winning, knowing Hamels is out of the game. They win game 5, anything can happen in the two TB home games. It is a free shot for me at +290.

I do think books got pounded last night. Imagine there was far more Philly action than TB.

 

[Doug]

I'd pitch Hamels on Wed/day, if I ran the club, at least consider it.

 

[crashdavis]

regardless of what BUD says, rules are rules and we abide by them. As in baseball, there is no crying in Gambling. we all know the BB rules when wagering so suck it up....

 

[Jetplane]

Phillies were graded a win.. per most book rules.

Bookmakers have an entire 24 hrs to decide if they game will be on the board (WS game... will be on the board)
Another shot and another game = money to be made

bookmakers have as long as they please lol... they make the rules.. they make the payouts lol.

 

[Fishhead]

actually terrible situation for local books. the problem is Phil was graded a winner so those who had Philly are happy. However those who had Tampa have been bitching up a storm saying why did they lose. Its a lose lose situation. If you go ahead and refund Tampa players then the Philly players bitch what happened to their graded winning wager. If you leave the Philly a winner, then you risk getting stiffed by Tampa players. Overall its a nightmare for local books

Not really, players must know the rules........and bookies should have rules posted.

Books need to cover themselves with DISCLAIMERS/RULES that easy visable.

Get this, my local here in TAMPA(who was bombarded with Tampa wagers), decided to give these players a break and allow their wagers to carry on. Meanwhile, I had the Phils and he thinks he can cancel my WINNING wager on the Phils because of this............

That my friends is what real HOGWASH and BS is.

Point is, the RAYS lost in betting terms.

As RAILBIRD stated, bookies should not have to provide bailout money to their own players out of sympathy.

 

[zeeman]

Not really, players must know the rules........and bookies should have rules posted.

Books need to cover themselves with DISCLAIMERS/RULES that easy visable.

Get this, my local here in TAMPA(who was bombarded with Tampa wagers), decided to give these players a break and allow their wagers to carry on. Meanwhile, I had the Phils and he thinks he can cancel my WINNING wager on the Phils because of this............

That my friends is what real HOGWASH and BS is.

Point is, the RAYS lost in betting terms.

Books should always have the flexibility to change the rule based on fairness and common sense. I believe somewhere in the rules it states all decisions are final. You really believe it's fair to grade Philly a winner and Tampa a loser even though the game continues tied 2-2. The rule is outdated and should be superceded by a new ruling. I hear this is what the Mirage and sportbook.con, along with 5 dimes has done.

 

[homedawg]

Not really, players must know the rules........and bookies should have rules posted.

Books need to cover themselves with DISCLAIMERS/RULES that easy visable.

Get this, my local here in TAMPA(who was bombarded with Tampa wagers), decided to give these players a break and allow their wagers to carry on. Meanwhile, I had the Phils and he thinks he can cancel my WINNING wager on the Phils because of this............

That my friends is what real HOGWASH and BS is.

Point is, the RAYS lost in betting terms.

As RAILBIRD stated, bookies should not have to provide bailout money to their own players out of sympathy.

Trust me I agree with you and Railbird 110%, but the point is if your a local trying to collect this money will be tough. For the most part 95% or local rosters are casual bettors and don't understand these rules. The way they see it Tampa tied the game therefore their losing wagers should be a push. They can't comprehend that rules are rules and they are clearly posted at the online site. None of the players are posted up, therefore if they feel they are getting screwed their likely to tell the book to go fuck themselves. They could care less about being called a stiff cause in their simple minds they are right.

 

[Fishhead]

Trust me I agree with you and Railbird 110%, but the point is if your a local trying to collect this money will be tough. For the most part 95% or local rosters are casual bettors and don't understand these rules. The way they see it Tampa tied the game therefore their losing wagers should be a push. They can't comprehend that rules are rules and they are clearly posted at the online site. None of the players are posted up, therefore if they feel they are getting screwed their likely to tell the book to go fuck themselves. They could care less about being called a stiff cause in their simple minds they are right.

Well, if you feel that way then, both sides must be paid.

They certainly cannot punish the Phils backers.

Pay EVERYONE and move on, if you agree in bailouts that is.

 

[HawkN-Flight]

Many gamblers knew about the rule, but who ever thought it would play out in a World Series game. Very very remote.
The rule need to be changed , what if Tampa scored 10 in the top of the 6th. How could you ever declare Philly a winner.

Thats old fashion rule needs to be change to no Contest and all monies returned.

 

[zeeman]

Well, if you feel that way then, both sides must be paid.

They certainly cannot punish the Phils backers.

Pay EVERYONE and move on, if you agree in bailouts that is.

Again you say I don't understand baseball. Please explain what I don't understand. When I make a bet I expect the bet to be graded fairly. The Bet Jamaica rule you keep falling back is not only outdated, it probably was intented to be applied to regular season games only. Last night's game was a unique situation and deserves a fair ruling. Not a unfair ruling based on an outdated rule used to grade regular season baseball games. By the way I only lost $175 on the game it's not the money its the principle.

 

[Fishhead]

Many gamblers knew about the rule, but who ever thought it would play out in a World Series game. Very very remote.
The rule need to be changed , what if Tampa scored 10 in the top of the 6th. How could you ever declare Philly a winner.

Thats old fashion rule needs to be change to no Contest and all monies returned.

Someone else go to bat for me, I'm through trying to explain this in 130 threads on 20 different forums.


d1g1t

:discuss:

uke1:

 

[steaktartar]

Someone else go to bat for me, I'm through trying to explain this in 130 threads on 20 different forums.


d1g1t

:discuss:

uke1:

:lolBIG:

 

[zeeman]

:lolBIG:

Fish,

I get your point, but it's a bad rule. When we all made our bets we weren't predicting the outcome after 5.5. I wasn't factoring weather, I was betting on who would be the official winner of the game. I understand Phily hasn't batted in the bottom of the 6th, but come tommorrow they will get their a bats. As a matter of fact the game will probably have an official winner once the game is completed. Again the rule that some sportbooks have listed are outdated and as Illini stated have been in place since the begginging of time.

 

[Illini]

Fish,

I get your point, but it's a bad rule. When we all made our bets we weren't predicting the outcome after 5.5. I wasn't factoring weather, I was betting on who would be the official winner of the game. I understand Phily hasn't batted in the bottom of the 6th, but come tommorrow they will get their a bats. As a matter of fact the game will probably have an official winner once the game is completed. Again the rule that some sportbooks have listed are outdated and as Illini stated have been in place since the begginging of time.

Actually, you placed your bet on who would win the game, according to the sportsbook rules. The rules can't change once the bet is placed.

 

[teazeman]

i'd like for the rule to be changed so that even if i pick losers they could grade them as winners. that old rule of losers being graded losers needs to be changed.

 

[zeeman]

Actually, you placed your bet on who would win the game, according to the sportsbook rules. The rules can't change once the bet is placed.

Sure they can. Those rules don't apply to Games deciding World Series. Those are outdated rules and very unfair. All I want is fairness in grading of bets. Also I don't have time to read the rules, I'm to busy arguing with you and the Fishhead. I assumed the rules would be fair, mirror baseball rules, and follow common sense. I wouldn't expect rules to be outdated.

 

[Fishhead]

Sure they can. Those rules don't apply to Games deciding World Series. Those are outdated rules and very unfair. All I want is fairness in grading of bets.

:think2::think2::think2::think2::think2::think2:

I said I was through, I mean it this time.

GOOD BYE

 

[zeeman]

:think2::think2::think2::think2::think2::think2:

I said I was through, I mean it this time.

GOOD BYE

No problem, will agree to disagree!:cripwalk:

 

[D2bets]

Fish,

I get your point, but it's a bad rule. When we all made our bets we weren't predicting the outcome after 5.5. I wasn't factoring weather, I was betting on who would be the official winner of the game. I understand Phily hasn't batted in the bottom of the 6th, but come tommorrow they will get their a bats. As a matter of fact the game will probably have an official winner once the game is completed. Again the rule that some sportbooks have listed are outdated and as Illini stated have been in place since the begginging of time.

It's a bad rule but it's still THE rule, and it is not ambiguous. Not to mention, it has indeed happened before, probably more than once. It is what it is.

 

[homedawg]

Well, if you feel that way then, both sides must be paid.

They certainly cannot punish the Phils backers.

Pay EVERYONE and move on, if you agree in bailouts that is.

i don't agree in bailing them out. They shouldn't be bailed out. My point was too show how local books are in a no win situation.

I guess it really doesn't matter all it is doing is delaying the inevitable.