Looks like a good bet to me. There is no way in hell ODLH will stop Hopkins, he won't even try. ODLH has always shown a good chin but Mosley did stun him a couple of times in the rematch. Regardless, the only risk is that ODLH gets stopped late which he will obviously try to avoid at all costs. He's not afraid to run either.
On paper, it seems logical that Hopkins should not be KOd. But after all that has happened this year in boxing, it would not surprise me if DLH did win by KO or TKO. Bernard is at an age where he could succumb to some type of injury at this stage of his career. Who knows?
I tell you...all year long, this fight has looked very tempting because of the odds. It just seems as if BH should be able to win easily against Oscar who has looked bad in recent fights. Oscar clearly lost, IMO, to Sturm.
I tell you...all year long, this fight has looked very tempting because of the odds. It just seems as if BH should be able to win easily against Oscar who has looked bad in recent fights. Oscar clearly lost, IMO, to Sturm.
And in my opinion Strum would also beat Hopkins. Strum is the real deal. Trust me, if Hopkins actually fought anybody he'd be having the same problems. Thats the only difference, Oscar has actually fought real fighters in the last few years and Hopkins hasnt.
I just saw the Campbell vs Peden replay and that was maybe the funniest sh!t Ive ever seen in my life. The crying after made it really hilarious. But god I cannot stand that fuking idiot Sean Ogrady or whatever his name is. Seriousy how does Fox put that fuking moron in front of a camera? And the guy calls himself a fighter and actually talks like hes tough. I would slap that bitch and make him do my laundry after smacking him. I mean seriously, how the hell do you put that stupid ass on tv?
I just saw the Campbell vs Peden replay and that was maybe the funniest sh!t Ive ever seen in my life. The crying after made it really hilarious. But god I cannot stand that fuking idiot Sean Ogrady or whatever his name is. Seriousy how does Fox put that fuking moron in front of a camera? And the guy calls himself a fighter and actually talks like hes tough. I would slap that bitch and make him do my laundry after smacking him. I mean seriously, how the hell do you put that stupid ass on tv?
I agree. And if you make the loses to Mosley and Trinidad wins, which they easily could have been... Oscar is undefeated. (the only person I think who actually has beaten oscar besides Sturm is Ike Quartey.
Bernard is training hard and should win... but if he doesn't it won't be the biggest upset of the year. No way.
Bernard is training hard and should win... but if he doesn't it won't be the biggest upset of the year. No way.
Why would anyone say Oscar won the first fight with mosley? he clearly lost the first fight. He has no case to be undefeated. He should have 3 losses IMO (which he does), to Quartey, Mosley I and Sturm. Another thing about Sturm is if Hopkins had fought and demolished Strum everyone would say he was a bum. Since Sturm gave ODLH hell (and should have won), he's supposed to be some kind of excellent fighter?
ODLH is NOT proven at middlweight, Hopkins is.
gotta say...i`m with val on this one....if dlh beats hopkins,the ramifications for hopkins and his legacy are mind boggling....
the thing that people question about bernard,is his level of opposition.....he really doesn`t have the kind of resume,other than trinidad,that turns your head....
if he loses to a blown up welterweight(dlh),it`s gonna seem to some that bernard wasn`t all that and a bag of chips.....
in many people`s minds,a loss to dlh really tarnishes hopkins` legacy...i hope hopkins understands this.......with the rumors running rampant about hopkins cashing in by betting it all on dlh.....i know that sounds silly....but,that`s the rumor...
unless hopkins hits the wall...all at once....i`m having trouble seeing a scenario in which he loses to dlh...
flat out,dlh will have to move...for 12 rounds...
hopkins is taller...stronger....and imo,more savvy...
dlh can be quicker....but he lacks power at this weight...
the thing that would concern me,if i were a dlh backer,is his late round stamina at the higher weights...it`s been terrible the last couple years...
one thing that may work in dlh`s favor,is that i don`t particularly like hopkins as the stalker....i like him better as a counterpuncher...ala trinidad...
hopkins never seems to be out of shape....if dlh comes in at around 154 or 156 as he says,i gotta think that hopkins should weigh around 165 the day of the fight..
hopkins actually looks thin at 160...dlh looks like a bloated matron at 160...that gives you some idea of how much bigger a man hopkins actually is..
i keep thinking back to how a blown up,steroid laden fernando vargas threw dlh around early in their fight...then folded under his own excess weight late....
unless hopkins gets old in a hurry..or gets real lazy and overconfident(or decides to cash in)i think dlh looks good and quick early....then hits the wall in the middle to later rounds..
hopkins will have to be a little more busy vs dlh....he tends to be overly patient on occasion...
i`m sure dlh plans on out-quicking and out-hustling bernard...
i don`t see it...and if bernard has a bad night,i`m gonna pay through the nose...
the thing that people question about bernard,is his level of opposition.....he really doesn`t have the kind of resume,other than trinidad,that turns your head....
if he loses to a blown up welterweight(dlh),it`s gonna seem to some that bernard wasn`t all that and a bag of chips.....
in many people`s minds,a loss to dlh really tarnishes hopkins` legacy...i hope hopkins understands this.......with the rumors running rampant about hopkins cashing in by betting it all on dlh.....i know that sounds silly....but,that`s the rumor...
unless hopkins hits the wall...all at once....i`m having trouble seeing a scenario in which he loses to dlh...
flat out,dlh will have to move...for 12 rounds...
hopkins is taller...stronger....and imo,more savvy...
dlh can be quicker....but he lacks power at this weight...
the thing that would concern me,if i were a dlh backer,is his late round stamina at the higher weights...it`s been terrible the last couple years...
one thing that may work in dlh`s favor,is that i don`t particularly like hopkins as the stalker....i like him better as a counterpuncher...ala trinidad...
hopkins never seems to be out of shape....if dlh comes in at around 154 or 156 as he says,i gotta think that hopkins should weigh around 165 the day of the fight..
hopkins actually looks thin at 160...dlh looks like a bloated matron at 160...that gives you some idea of how much bigger a man hopkins actually is..
i keep thinking back to how a blown up,steroid laden fernando vargas threw dlh around early in their fight...then folded under his own excess weight late....
unless hopkins gets old in a hurry..or gets real lazy and overconfident(or decides to cash in)i think dlh looks good and quick early....then hits the wall in the middle to later rounds..
hopkins will have to be a little more busy vs dlh....he tends to be overly patient on occasion...
i`m sure dlh plans on out-quicking and out-hustling bernard...
i don`t see it...and if bernard has a bad night,i`m gonna pay through the nose...
I got it at Pinniacle and I think 5dimes has it up also. I dont know if the line is still the same though. I did a seperate post about DLH by dec at around +400. I think its a great play. I think DLH will win by decision. That has awesome value in my opinion. I seriously doubt that he can knock him out but I do think that he will win.
Have to agree. I feel this fight is a toss up; could go either way. The value seem to be in the DeLaHoya lnes. The decision at +400 seem to be a really solid play. Who would have ever thought that there would be a fight some day where a DeLaHoya line had some value? This fight should be good.
I have to say that everyone is getting caught up in the upsets of the last year. I think everyone in boxing wants to predict the next big upset. Now i hear people saying that Toney will lose to Booker. Give me a break. When yhou have a guy who is a big fav, and has questionable heart and stamina, you may have a valid point. Hopkins doe.s not fit that bill at all
Sugar Ray Lenoard wont happen again.He was much faster and fresher than DLH. DLH is a great fighter with a lot of heart. He was beaten by Trinidad,(yes it was contreversial) none the less he was beaten. Hopkins Ko'd Trinidad 2 years later. I think it will be a more exciting fight than we expect, but some fighters have a little something extra. They just refuse to lose. Guys like Hopkins.
Bernard has been waiting for this his whole career. Hopkins will punish him over the fight, break him down, and maybe even take him out late. DLH will put up a great fight, but he will look like a beaten man when the bell sounds. Im not saying people are crazy for thinking DLH has a shot, because anything can happen. I just dont think that Hopkins will let it.
Sugar Ray Lenoard wont happen again.He was much faster and fresher than DLH. DLH is a great fighter with a lot of heart. He was beaten by Trinidad,(yes it was contreversial) none the less he was beaten. Hopkins Ko'd Trinidad 2 years later. I think it will be a more exciting fight than we expect, but some fighters have a little something extra. They just refuse to lose. Guys like Hopkins.
Bernard has been waiting for this his whole career. Hopkins will punish him over the fight, break him down, and maybe even take him out late. DLH will put up a great fight, but he will look like a beaten man when the bell sounds. Im not saying people are crazy for thinking DLH has a shot, because anything can happen. I just dont think that Hopkins will let it.
Almly, i def respect you when it comes to talking boxing on the RX. But i must say that i love people who believe the hype of DeLaHoya. It has helped me win more money betting against him both times with Mosley. Everyone thinks he is amazing and keeps the line down for Hopkins. Bernard is a natural 160. Oscar best weight was 140 and below... Has has some gift decisions and a few losses since stepping up.. I respect your thoughts... Only way i see me losing is if DLH gets a gift decision in Vegas. thats def not out of the question. Oscar is a strong minded guy and i know he will put up a good fight
