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I've got some free time to post on this quiet Saturday morning after finally closing a real estate purchase yesterday and before heading to Wrigley in a few hours. I wanted to get this up now and share some thoughts while I had the time even though the derby isn't until Monday.

I'm sure based off my posting name that some of you have assumed my play will be on a Cub - you are correct. However, as I've stated in my threads involving Cubs games before, when it comes to money I do not let my heart interfere with my head and have identified spots to fade my boys in the past.

The player that I believe presents us with the most value in this contest is boy wonder himself, Kris Bryant.

There are a few reasons I believe we will have the opportunity to buy an inflated price on Kris here:

I think the new format works to our benefit in a couple aspects. First, in contests like these there seems to be a gravitational pull towards all the contestants having somewhat evenly-distributed odds. Especially with these new rules, most people don't know what to expect so you won't see "heavy" favorites.

That being said, I think the new format could work in Kris' favor from a logistics standpoint. He is listed as the #8 seed against Pujols who is labeled as #1. This is only because Pujols has 26 homers thus far in the regular season and Bryant is last of the group with 12. Realistically, everyone starts the night with 0 and these seedings mean absolutely nothing as they do not offer any competitive advantage. We might be granted a few extra cents here as a result of blind public perception thinking a lowest-over-highest-seed upset is less likely. Bryant is a streaky power hitter and hits in bunches so if he gets going it could be an exciting night.

These rounds will be timed, so having to execute swings at a healthy pace should play into Kris' court for several reasons. The first is age as he is only 23 and will be facing the 35 year old Pujols, oldest in the group. Kris has a clear stamina edge here. Additionally, Kris' swing is perhaps the strongest reason I'll be backing him in this derby. He hosts a natural uppercut swing that lofts balls high into the air which should play extremely well at the hitter's park in Cincy. He has the most NATURAL power of anyone not only in this group but in the game today. This is key. He will not need to exert himself as much as the others trying to hit the ball out of the park... he can effortlessly get the ball over the fence and that could be huge down the stretch in the later rounds. One last note, here: the clock will stop during homers so his long hang times won't play as a disadvantage.

Aside from having the physical tools to win, I love where his head is at. He has openly stated his desire to be in the derby and is excited and looking forward to it. He will take this seriously and come prepared. He is one of the smartest young prospects in the game and should be composed on Monday making the risk of him getting over-excited or experiencing a case of the jitters lower than expected.

His father will be pitching to him. He played professional ball himself and has been close to Kris every step of his journey. Kris said he knows exactly how to pitch him and they should have good chemistry out there... this is somewhat of a subtle aspect of the derby but could prove critical.

I could go on, but I think these thoughts are enough for now. We could very well be in a situation where he either loses in the very first round or wins it all given the tough starting matchup but if that scares people off and helps our price, I'll take it. I don't have a price to lock in yet but will post when I do. I might also take a look at matchup prices. I honestly think Bryant wins this thing around 25% of the time long-term which would break even at +300. I expect to see somewhere in the range of +550-600 and will be back when I do.
 

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Kris Bryant to win HRD +550 risking $500 to win $2,750 (this price is available at a couple books)
 

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You don't think nerves may play a part into it?

They could, as there's always that chance - especially with a youngster in his first derby. However, as I mentioned above, Kris' mental awareness is as strong as any aspect of his game. He is extremely composed for a rookie and has an insanely high baseball IQ. He handles himself well, says the right things to the media, is a smart base runner, makes the right in-game decisions, and the last time I checked he was second in the league behind only Granderson in walks after facing an 0-2 count. That type of patience is unheard of for a rookie. This guy's head is in the right place and the fact that he's a rookie really just adds more value to the play since he's mature beyond his years. That being said, he's obviously still a dog to the rest of the 8-man field and this is by no means a lock. I just expect a better chance for him than what's implied given the situation.
 

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This kid is a stud, no denying it. But I gotta ask ya something and I recognize you probably won't see this until sometime during the day. I thought the same pitcher pitched to all the contestants. Are you telling me each player gets a pitcher of his choosing??? If so, did not know that. GL, I kinda like the play, will like it more if what you say about his dad pitching to him is gospel.

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He has the most NATURAL power of anyone not only in this group but in the game today.

While he's injured now, I would say Giancarlo Staton has the most NATURAL power in the game today.

 

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Inky, been a while, hope all is well with ya!!! Made a move to NC since we last went back and forth here. Thought I was escaping the heat of Oklahoma.....NOT!!! LOL. Join us in the par if ya feel like it, doesn't cost ya a penny.

~T~
 

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GL. I think Fat Albert + $$ against him in first round may not be bad wager
 

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His father will be pitching to him. He played professional ball himself and has been close to Kris every step of his journey. Kris said he knows exactly how to pitch him and they should have good chemistry out there... this is somewhat of a subtle aspect of the derby but could prove critical.

This kid is a stud, no denying it. But I gotta ask ya something and I recognize you probably won't see this until sometime during the day. I thought the same pitcher pitched to all the contestants. Are you telling me each player gets a pitcher of his choosing??? If so, did not know that. GL, I kinda like the play, will like it more if what you say about his dad pitching to him is gospel.

~T~

sounds good put a few bucks on him first round

Harpers dad pitched to him in 13

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LMFAO! That's some funny shit Slappy. I'm trying to decide if I officially become degen by betting this derby, LOL.

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Bryant won the HR Derby last year in the minor leagues en rout to being named POY. Surprised that wasn't mentioned.
 

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This kid is a stud, no denying it. But I gotta ask ya something and I recognize you probably won't see this until sometime during the day. I thought the same pitcher pitched to all the contestants. Are you telling me each player gets a pitcher of his choosing??? If so, did not know that. GL, I kinda like the play, will like it more if what you say about his dad pitching to him is gospel.

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Everyone picks their own pitcher. Pujols will have Dino Ebel pitching to him.. the Angels' bench coach who has a solid rep as a BP pitcher... bummer for Bryant backers.
 

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While he's injured now, I would say Giancarlo Staton has the most NATURAL power in the game today.

Stanton definitely has the most power in the big leagues... by natural I meant the power that is generated by the player's swing style... Bryant effortlessly generates power to all fields even with his more slender frame as compared to Stanton and the Evan Gattis-type players that "muscle" the ball out with power swings.
 

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My buddy who lives in Vegas has been stopping in at various books today and cutting deals with fellow poker players... my card is now as follows:

Kris Bryant to win HRD +550 risking $500 to win $2,750 (from yesterday)
Kris Bryant over Albert Pujols 1st Round +115 $500 to win $575

Non-Bryant plays (NOT handicapped, just for scalp value):
Todd Frazier to win Derby +550 $250 to win $1,375
Todd Frazier to NOT win Derby -350 $875 to win $250

So a poker player who likes to degen sports without knowing much booked Frazier +350 against me and my friend... so my buddy went to a book and snagged us +550 on Frazier for the freeroll LOL... I'll take it!

Bryant/Frazier would be cool...
 

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Lost both Bryant bets. A few things worked against us with the revised rules because of rain shortening the time and not stopping the clock during his high fly balls (which I specifically mentioned) but no excuses as it likely wouldn't have mattered anyway. Mike's pitching was horrid and Kris forgot to mention in his quote about his dad knowing how to pitch him that he's physically incapable of doing so... ha. The clock for Pujols' winner was at 0:00 but he would've still had bonus time so can't be too mad about that either. Kris will learn/adjust and win one down the road for sure. Just get a new pitcher next time! Hopefully Todd can scalp me back half the Bryant losses.
 

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