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Just curious to see how people evaluate HFA in baseball? Home teams have historically won about 54% of the time, so that equates to about 18 cents. However, how many cents do you add if a very weak road team plays against one of the best home teams (say Minnesota at Tampa)? 40 cents, 50 cents, 70 cents?
 

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Baseball is all about the starting pitcher.

I totally don't agree with this. Starting pitching is only 30% of the equation or less. Most starters average less than 6 innings now, so you have to factor in the bullpen as well as defense, which is underrated. And offense obviously is very important too.
 
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Take any of the hot pitchers on a streak pitching against Joe Schmoe. The line is lets say -190. If you're gonna bet the favorite in that game you better make it clear to the book that you do not want the bet if the top pitcher is not pitching. You are giving way too much away.
 
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Plus a book like WSEX cancels all bets if the listed starting pitchers don't go. This is probably true with most online books. I was in Vegas once and I bet Clemens. I walked away with the betting slip and came back in a minute to tell the bet taker I did not want the game if Clemens didn't start. He granted my request but said they usually won't do that.
 

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I totally don't agree with this. Starting pitching is only 30% of the equation or less. Most starters average less than 6 innings now, so you have to factor in the bullpen as well as defense, which is underrated. And offense obviously is very important too.

It's more than 30 percent Waz.
Good pitching will for the most part shut down good hitting.
But your point about bullpens is valid, look what the Met 'pen did for Santana last season, cost him a 20 win season.

But when 'capping a baseball game, you always start with the starting pitchers first.
 

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Anyone have any thoughts on the Home Field Advantage?
 

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take2, if i am not mistaken, Greek will not cancel bets if starting pitchers don't go, but will adjust your odds...of course, you have the option of having the bet automatically cancel if starters do not go...
 

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I only take homefield advantage into account if one team has a better bullpen or a really bad bullpen or if I am betting on a total.
 

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Home Field advantage matters most in the first game of the series. After first game, visitor team gets used to enviroment. Home field advantage gets lesser and lesser in the 2nd and 3rd game of the series.
 
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Starting pitching is not what it used to be in baseball betting.

Agreed, alot of these guys can't make it deep into the game especially late in the year. I'll look at several things before starting pitching deep in the season. Momentum, lineups, bull pens
 

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Plus a book like WSEX cancels all bets if the listed starting pitchers don't go. This is probably true with most online books. I was in Vegas once and I bet Clemens. I walked away with the betting slip and came back in a minute to tell the bet taker I did not want the game if Clemens didn't start. He granted my request but said they usually won't do that.

Alll sportsbooks now offer the option of "Scheduled Starters" so that if one or both SP does not go, the bet is No Action.

Conversely, you can select "ACTION" in which case if one or both of the SP does not go, the book will adjust the price to reflect the replacement(s) SP and pay or collect accordingly
 

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Home Field most certainly factors in to a lot of teams

The Boston Red Sox past three seasons when playing Away vs teams with winning records play under .400
 

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I happened to see this in my baseball notes lately...FWIW.

Analyzing the home field advantage further, I noticed interesting correlations between a home team's winning percentage and the game number in a series.
Game 1: 54.2%
Game 2: 53.8%
Game 3: 53.5%
Game 4: 50.2%
The home field advantage decreases as the series progresses to the point that by Game 4 of the series, the home field advantage is nullified. Our records indicate that the oddsmakers have not appropriately adjusted for this Game 4 phenomenon and as a result, very successful systems exist for this.
 

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If last year taught us anything, it's that bullpens are more important than ever.

As for homefield, I think depending on the park it can mean a lot. Teams like the Red Sox, Cubs, etc. dominate at home.
 

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20-30 cents a game no matter the situation is my way.
 

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