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Date---------record------units
10/11 -------- 2-0 ------ +2.68
10/18---------2-2------- -0.20
10/25---------1-2------ -1.10
11/1----------1-3------ -1.60
11/8----------1-2-1---- -1.00
YTD----------7-9-1 ----- -1.22



Washington -1.5 +242 (Matchbook)

This line has spiked on the news that Alexander Semin left last night’s game late in the second period. Far too much of a overreaction for me. Even if he wasn’t to suit up, and all indications are that he will, the Caps are head and shoulders better than New Jersey at this point of time.

Consider that Washington had All-World Semin in their lineup last night for only 12 minutes. He contributed with 3 shots on goal and 1 face off win. Washington still handled the Devils easily. Fact is Washington is much more than a one line, or one star, lineup.

Ovechkin was relatively dormant by his standards over Washington’s first 11 games of the season scoring a goal in only one game, (2 versus Chicago in the second game). But let it be known Ovie is back scoring in three straight games and assisting on 7 more in the last 4. Once this train starts rolling, there is little that can slow him down. Ovechkin is known for his streaky play and once he's hot, can carry a team on his back. FYI: AO is second in the league with a plus/minus of 14. Mike Green is third with 11. Naturally, Alexander Semin leads everyone with 17.

While Washington has found their groove riding a 5 game winning streak and 7 of their last 9, New Jersey is floundering. Without Marty Brodeur the Devils have lost 5 of 6. Four of those loses were by more than a goal. Truth is, even when they had Marty Brodeur between the pipes the Devils were struggling losing 3 of his last 4 starts. All told New Jersey has lost 8 of their last 10.

While the Devils did get Paul Martin back in their lineup last night they still play without Brian Rolston and Bobby Holik. Their offense is anemic without them.

Boston +115 (BetVegasVic)

Another case of two teams heading in opposite directions. Boston winning eight of their last nine and Rangers sputtering to a 2-4 record over their last 6 only begins to paint a uneven picture.

Consider their opponents over this period. Boston played Edmonton, Vancouver, Calgary, and Chicago on the road. They won 3 of those games and allowed only 4 goals. At home they beat Montreal, Buffalo, Toronto, and Dallas by a combined score of 19-4.

The Rangers 4 wins in their last 8 games have come against injury plagued Devils, Tampa Bay, Atlanta, and the Islanders. Don’t be fooled by their Eastern Conference leading record. They are a overrated squad and face a team tonight who are clicking on every cylinder.

Boston can win in numerous ways. They can get a early lead and trap you to death as evidenced by their consecutive 1-0 wins at Edmonton and Vancouver or attack in the offensive zone and go for a convincing knock out punch. These aren’t the one dimensional Claude Julien Bruins of a season ago. Last year their offense was pathetic averaging only 2.51 GPG, or just .2 goals more than the last place New York Islanders.

Julien has allowed his players to open up their games and utilize the offensive potential at their disposal. I thought the addition of Patrice Bergeron would help improve Boston’s sluggish offense from last year but I had no idea that they would increase by more than a half goal a game. This year they roll four full lines of scoring threats. Boston’s roster includes 9 players with at least 3 goals. Not one of their regulars have a negative +/-.

In net it’s no different. As good as Lundqvist has been, Thomas is better. It may not be as pretty but the numbers don’t lie. Thomas has a better GAA, save percentage, winning percentage, and more shutouts. It is worth mentioning that Lundqvist and Thomas have quite opposite lifetime numbers against each other. Lundqvist is 8-1-2 versus Boston with a 1.32 GAA, .953 save#. Thomas is 2-4-2 against New York, 3.27 GAA and .892 save#. But here too the numbers can be deceiving. Thomas has won his last two starts against New York, (and Lundqvist), on back to back nights last January.

Could be back later with another play or two.
 

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like the Bruins too,but i don't know yet if i'd bet regular,or with OT incl.I mean this two teams has a history of SO and OTs .I was also thinking to maybe throw some on the tie in reg as well.

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Just posted at the Post:

Semin Questionable; Nylander In

Alexander Semin is questionable for tonight's game at Prudential Center after leaving last night's 3-1 win over the Devils with an upper body injury. It's unclear what happened to him, but he did not play at all in the third period and appeared to be favoring his shoulder/neck/back.

"He's going to take warm up and see how he feels," Boudreau said. "He's the leading scorer in the league, so I'm hopeful. I don't know if it's even 50-50. I just took him aside and he doesn't know if he's 50-50."
Since there was no morning skate, just a team meeting at the hotel, we'll have to wait until later to get the lineup. Boudreau did, however, say that Michael Nylander will get back into the lineup after being a healthy scratch last night.

"If I sit a guy out, I want to give him a chance to redeem himself," Boudreau said.

Boudreau also said that Jose Theodore, who had his best game as a Capital last night, stopping 32 shots, will get the nod again tonight.
"If you say I'm rewarding him [with another start] then that means he was on trial," Boudreau said. "That wasn't the case. He was scheduled to play tonight -- I told him that on Wednesday. He deserved the shutout. I can't believe that pathetic line change."

Defenseman Shaone Morrisonn, meantime, made the trip to Jersey and will take warm-up. But Boudreau is not optimistic that he will play.
 

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Straight Bet: (Bookmaker)
Montreal Canadians -.5 regulation -110

Parlay: (5dimes)
Washington team total Over 2.5 -155
Philadelphia/Montreal Over 5 -200
+147

Habs always seem to open up their game on hockey night, (7-1 O/U last 8 Saturdays), and after the shellacking they took in Boston last Thursday should have added incentive to paste one on here. They also look for a measure of redemption in playing the team that ousted them from the playoffs last year. Despite that series loss the Canadians have dominated Philadelphia in the regular season winning the last 7 meetings and 5 by more than one goal. 7 of the last 10 meetings have gone over the total.

Flyers are banged up and missing some pieces. Things are getting interesting down there. Rumors have it Brendan Shannahan is leaning to joining the Flyers and Philly allowed Lasse Kukkonen to be exposed to waivers in an effort to clear cap space. No one claimed him and he will suit up tonight. It all screams of desperate measures by a desperate team.
 

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Just posted at the Post:

Semin Questionable; Nylander In

Alexander Semin is questionable for tonight's game at Prudential Center after leaving last night's 3-1 win over the Devils with an upper body injury. It's unclear what happened to him, but he did not play at all in the third period and appeared to be favoring his shoulder/neck/back.

"He's going to take warm up and see how he feels," Boudreau said. "He's the leading scorer in the league, so I'm hopeful. I don't know if it's even 50-50. I just took him aside and he doesn't know if he's 50-50."
Since there was no morning skate, just a team meeting at the hotel, we'll have to wait until later to get the lineup. Boudreau did, however, say that Michael Nylander will get back into the lineup after being a healthy scratch last night.

"If I sit a guy out, I want to give him a chance to redeem himself," Boudreau said.

Boudreau also said that Jose Theodore, who had his best game as a Capital last night, stopping 32 shots, will get the nod again tonight.
"If you say I'm rewarding him [with another start] then that means he was on trial," Boudreau said. "That wasn't the case. He was scheduled to play tonight -- I told him that on Wednesday. He deserved the shutout. I can't believe that pathetic line change."

Defenseman Shaone Morrisonn, meantime, made the trip to Jersey and will take warm-up. But Boudreau is not optimistic that he will play.

As usual Vic, you are right on top of things.
I agree with everything you say. The only thing that troubles me about laying 1.5 goals is that the Caps have been playing solid first periods, and then coasting through some of their games. I know it bothers Boudreau and surely it will bite them in the ass one of these days. Hope it's not tonight.he other hand, the Devils barely threatened at even strength last night, and were it not for an amateurish line change, Theodore likely would have had a shutout.
 

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vic post some more info when you get it please!

the way i see it; last 5 games the caps have won 4 of their 5 last game by 2 goals or more.

NJ has lost 4 of their last 5 by 2 or more goals.

why not be on the puck line tonight?
 

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Hi I was at capsgame last night. to say they handled them asily is not correct. Theodre stood on his head as the caps were outshot by 10 many of them bang-bang plays thet he stopped or they just missed connecting. Final score would have been 2-1caps missed a long empty netter and then on the faceoff they got puck to #8 and he scored. Best of luck tonight. heart222
 

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Posted at 5:29 PM ET, 11/15/2008

<!-- date header ends here -->Semin's Status Still Uncertain

Coach Bruce Boudreau said that the Capitals won't know until after warm up if Alexander Semin will play in tonight's game at Prudential Center, but that it will be Semin's call as to whether he is healthy enough to face the Devils. Semin left yesterday's 3-1 win over New Jersey at Verizon Center with an upper body injury.
"It will be an after warm up call and he will call," Boudreau said. The Caps lineup won't be known until Semin makes his decision.
Boudreau did tell reporters that the line of Tomas Fleischmann, Brooks Laich and Viktor Kozlov, which combined for three points in yesterday's win, will not be intact. "I don't think we've had the same lineup once all year," Boudreau said. "It keeps everybody else on their toes though."


I just finished watching the Caps/NJ game of last night. I wasn't around to see it live last night. IMO it was the quietest game Semin has played all year and still the Caps dominated this game. The score was very deceiving, Caps could have scored much more, and as megold pointed out if not for a bad line change New Jersey wouldn't have scored at all.

I still think the puck line is a solid play but I see where the line is crashing, only due to Semin's questionable status. Matchbook currently is offering Washington at -110 and I'm on it just on pure principal. This line is wrong... with or without Semin.
 

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Hi I was at capsgame last night. to say they handled them asily is not correct. Theodre stood on his head as the caps were outshot by 10 many of them bang-bang plays thet he stopped or they just missed connecting. Final score would have been 2-1caps missed a long empty netter and then on the faceoff they got puck to #8 and he scored. Best of luck tonight. heart222

Theodore played a solid game but to say he stood on his head is a stretch. I could say the same for Clemmensen.
 

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o.k. ill give you that one. by the way megold and I were acquaintrences of the late great b byrde. His last year alive he tore up CFL for something like 65%. good luck tonight. heart222
 

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o.k. ill give you that one. by the way megold and I were acquaintrences of the late great b byrde. His last year alive he tore up CFL for something like 65%. good luck tonight. heart222


I was too! Have I met you before?
 

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no. The one time I was in Veges bb was to busy so it was email and occasional phone calls.ATl C is closer for us. As my account said you (me) spend theday traddingfuterews and relax betting sports a little nuts to say the least. good luck h
 

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Bobby Bryde

Wow....that took me back a few years. Never had an opportunity to meet him in person, but he took me "under his wing" and taught me a lot when I started to get more serious after college. Emails and phone calls, but boy do I remember and appreciate them
 

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Bobby was a great guy and I miss him much.

good day heart222

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Wow....that took me back a few years. Never had an opportunity to meet him in person, but he took me "under his wing" and taught me a lot when I started to get more serious after college. Emails and phone calls, but boy do I remember and appreciate them

first time I met him was at the Stardust sportsbook around 1990. We became instant friends bound by our love for hockey. I have many great stories about him that we'll have to share in a thread later.
 

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Wow Vic. You and I were just discussing him a few weeks ago in Vegas. Sounds like he touched a lot of people.
 

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watching the NJ pre game.

not looking good for Semin

he just left the warm up early and in pain
 

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Holy cow did I get the worst of this number. Washington down to -105, and still dropping, at Matchbook
 

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