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"This is long, but enlightening. Lest you think it was written by some right-wing kook, David Kaiser is a respected historian whose published works have covered a broad range of topics, from European Warfare to American League Baseball. Born in 1947, the son of a diplomat, Kaiser spent his childhood in three capital cities: Washington D.C. , Albany , New York , and Dakar , Senegal.

He attended Harvard University , graduating there in 1969 with a B.A. in history. He then spent several years more at Harvard, gaining a PhD in history, which he obtained in 1976. He served in the Army Reserve from 1970 to 1976.

He is a professor in the Strategy and Policy Department of the United States Naval War College and has previously taught at Carnegie Mellon, Williams College and Harvard University . Kaiser's latest book, The Road to Dallas, about the Kennedy assassination, was just published by Harvard University Press."



History Unfolding
by; Dr. David Kaiser


"My friends, we live in the greatest nation in the history of the world. I hope you'll join with me as we try to change it."-----------WHY?
- Barack Obama

I am a student of history. Professionally, I have written 15 books on history that have been published in six languages, and I have studied history all my life. I have come to think there is something monumentally large afoot, and I do not believe it is simply a banking crisis, or a mortgage crisis, or a credit crisis. Yes these exist, but they are merely single facets on a very large gemstone that is only now coming into a sharper focus.

Something of historic proportions is happening. I can sense it because I know how it feels, smells, what it looks like, and how people react to it.. Yes, a perfect storm may be brewing, but there is something happening within our country that has been evolving for about ten to fifteen years. The pace has dramatically quickened in the past two.

We demand and then codify into law the requirement that our banks make massive loans to people we know they can never pay back? Why?

We learned just days ago that the Federal Reserve, which has little or no real oversight by anyone, has "loaned" two trillion dollars (that is $2,000,000,000,000) over the past few months, but will not tell us to whom or why or disclose the terms. That is our money. Yours and mine. And that is three times the $700 billion we all argued about so strenuously just this past September. Who has this money? Why do they have it? Why are the terms unavailable to us? Who asked for it? Who authorized it? I thought this was a government of "we the people," who loaned our powers to our elected leaders. Apparently not.

We have spent two or more decades intentionally de-industrializing our economy. Why?

We have intentionally dumbed down our schools, ignored our history, and no longer teach our founding documents, why we are exceptional, and why we are worth preserving. Students by and large cannot write, think critically, read, or articulate. Parents are not revolting, teachers are not picketing, school boards continue to back mediocrity. Why?

We have now established the precedent of protesting every close election (violently in California over a proposition that is so controversial that it simply wants marriage to remain defined as between one man and one woman. Did you ever think such a thing possible just a decade ago?) We have corrupted our sacred political process by allowing unelected judges to write laws that radically change our way of life, and then mainstream Marxist groups like ACORN and others to turn our voting system into a banana republic. To what purpose?

Now our mortgage industry is collapsing, housing prices are in free fall, major industries are failing, our banking system is on the verge of collapse, social security is nearly bankrupt, as is Medicare and our entire government. Our education system is worse than a joke (I teach college and I know precisely what I am talking about) - the list is staggering in its length, breadth, and depth.. It is potentially 1929 x ten... And we are at war with an enemy we cannot even name for fear of offending people of the same religion, who, in turn, cannot wait to slit the throats of your children if they have the opportunity to do so.

And finally, we have elected a man that no one really knows anything about, who has never run so much as a Dairy Queen, let alone a town as big as Wasilla , Alaska . All of his associations and alliances are with real radicals in their chosen fields of employment, and everything we learn about him, drip by drip, is unsettling if not downright scary (Surely you have heard him speak about his idea to create and fund a mandatory civilian defense force stronger than our military for use inside our borders? No? Oh, of course. The media would never play that for you over and over and then demand he answer it. Sarah Palin's pregnant daughter and $150,000 wardrobe are more important.)

Mr. Obama's winning platform can be boiled down to one word: Change. Why?

I have never been so afraid for my country and for my children as I am now.
This man campaigned on bringing people together, something he has never, ever done in his professional life. In my assessment, Obama will divide us along philosophical lines, push us apart, and then try to realign the pieces into a new and different power structure. Change is indeed coming. And when it comes, you will never see the same nation again.

And that is only the beginning..

As a serious student of history, I thought I would never come to experience what the ordinary, moral German must have felt in the mid-1930s. In those times, the "savior" was a former smooth-talking rabble-rouser from the streets, about whom the average German knew next to nothing. What they should have known was that he was associated with groups that shouted, shoved, and pushed around people with whom they disagreed; he edged his way onto the political stage through great oratory. Conservative "losers" read it right now.

And there were the promises. Economic times were tough, people were losing jobs, and he was a great speaker. And he smiled and frowned and waved a lot. And people, even newspapers, were afraid to speak out for fear that his "brown shirts" would bully and beat them into submission. Which they did - regularly. And then, he was duly elected to office, while a full-throttled economic crisis bloomed at hand - the Great Depression.

Slowly, but surely he seized the controls of government power, person by person, department by department, bureaucracy by bureaucracy. The children of German citizens were at first, encouraged to join a Youth Movement in his name where they were taught exactly what to think. Later, they were required to do so. No Jews of course,

How did he get people on his side? He did it by promising jobs to the jobless, money to the money-less, and rewards for the military-industrial complex. He did it by indoctrinating the children, advocating gun control, health care for all, better wages, better jobs, and promising to re-instill pride once again in the country, across Europe , and across the world. He did it with a compliant media - did you know that? And he did this all in the name of justice and .... . .. change. And the people surely got what they voted for.

If you think I am exaggerating, look it up. It's all there in the history books.
So read your history books. Many people of conscience objected in 1933 and were shouted down, called names, laughed at, and ridiculed. When Winston Churchill pointed out the obvious in the late 1930s while seated in the House of Lords in England (he was not yet Prime Minister), he was booed into his seat and called a crazy troublemaker. He was right, though. And the world came to regret that he was not listened to.

Do not forget that Germany was the most educated, the most cultured country in Europe . It was full of music, art, museums, hospitals, laboratories, and universities. And yet, in less than six years (a shorter time span than just two terms of the U. S. presidency) it was rounding up its own citizens, killing others, abrogating its laws, turning children against parents, and neighbors against neighbors.. All with the best of intentions, of course. The road to Hell is paved with them.

As a practical thinker, one not overly prone to emotional decisions, I have a choice: I can either believe what the objective pieces of evidence tell me (even if they make me cringe with disgust); I can believe what history is shouting to me from across the chasm of seven decades; or I can hope I am wrong by closing my eyes, having another latte, and ignoring what is transpiring around me..

I choose to believe the evidence. No doubt some people will scoff at me, others laugh, or think I am foolish, naive, or both. To some degree, perhaps I am. But I have never been afraid to look people in the eye and tell them exactly what I believe-and why I believe it.

I pray I am wrong. I do not think I am. Perhaps the only hope is our vote in the next elections.

David Kaiser
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Not sure if those opposed to President Bush started playing the "He's just like Hitler" card in the first 120 days, but I do know it's a tired analogy that's been run out by those opposing the sitting POTUS going back to at least Reagan.

So in that sense, it's mildly bemusing to see that some tactics never change, regardless of who's in charge of our country at any given moment.
 

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The thread of WW3 has certainly gone up, we still are fighting wars around the world, the economy has no happy ending in sight.

We could be in 1930 right now.

As bad as it is in America, it is WORSE in other countries and if things don't get better soon, some crazy dictator will blame his foreign neighbors and then other countries pick sides and it's on.

The USA owes china a whole lot of money. Thousands of billions of dollars.

The muslim world is at war with the jewish/christian world... we are at a dangerous crossroads.
 

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*Only a small percentage of the Muslim world is at war with Christians and/or Jews

* "thousands of billions"? I think the word you're looking for is "trillions". I'm pretty sure US debt to China is not in the trillions, though I'm happy to be shown an accurate cite.

*"We" are not fighting wars around the world. We're actually only involved in one war right now that ranges from Iraq north into Afghanistan and the Pakistan border region.


While you are not irrational to for the moment have your focus on the potential for international violence between countries, I'd invite you to also recognize that with every passing day, peaceful social and economic relationships are being expanded between the citizens of over 100 nations worldwide.

The more we focus on expanding those positive economic and peaceful relationships, the better our future will be.
 

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*Only a small percentage of the Muslim world is at war with Christians and/or Jews

* "thousands of billions"? I think the word you're looking for is "trillions". I'm pretty sure US debt to China is not in the trillions, though I'm happy to be shown an accurate cite.

*"We" are not fighting wars around the world. We're actually only involved in one war right now that ranges from Iraq north into Afghanistan and the Pakistan border region.


While you are not irrational to for the moment have your focus on the potential for international violence between countries, I'd invite you to also recognize that with every passing day, peaceful social and economic relationships are being expanded between the citizens of over 100 nations worldwide.

The more we focus on expanding those positive economic and peaceful relationships, the better our future will be.

When George Bush was in charge, your friends kept yelling that the world was in "two illegal wars". Now it's just two small global conflicts betweem a small percentage of people? Only a few thousand people died too right, that's only a grain of sand in the world's total population right?

I didn't use the world trillions because it is too desensatized. Thousands of billions seemed more appropriate to hammer it into people's thick skulls. It makes me friggin sick.

China is America's largest debt holder, and they aren't too happy about the US of A bailing everybody out and printing new money. We are in debt TRILLIONS of dollars to them, and somebody is going to have to pay it. It is sick and irresponsible for us as a country to live beyond our means and pass on our problems to future generations. Obama has spent more in his first 100 days than all other presidents combined, and he is due to over double the national debt as he is president. He's the greatest thief in human history!

Peace between nations? You mean like the genocide of tamils in Sri Lanka? They were out in front of the white house protesting today, for Obama to do something... to stop the genocide.

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CGold retorts: When George Bush was in charge, your friends kept yelling that the world was in "two illegal wars".

Bar: "My" friends did not yell any such thing.

CG: Now it's just two small global conflicts betweem a small percentage of people?

Bar: In relation to the planet at large, yes.

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CG: China is America's largest debt holder, and they aren't too happy about the US of A bailing everybody out and printing new money. We are in debt TRILLIONS of dollars to them

Bar: I asked for a citation on that claim. Can you provide one?

CG: Obama has spent more in his first 100 days than all other presidents combined

Bar: This is of course complete and utter nonsense. More money spent in 100 days than in the past 233 years combined?

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CG: Peace between nations? You mean like the genocide of tamils in Sri Lanka?

Bar: No. I refer instead to the tens of thousands of American businesses (for one example) peaceably doing business with people in over 100 countries around the world. I refer to the literally hundreds of millions of people peaceably interacting both economically and socially between nations around the world.

If you're inclined to focus on those involved in violent and warring relationships around the world, I've no interest in talking you out of it. But I'll nonetheless continue to focus on the billions (yes...billions) of people who are living in peace with their neighbors all around the globe. It is these people who will get my attention because I've learned that whatever I give my attention to is then better able to expand.
 

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CGold retorts: When George Bush was in charge, your friends kept yelling that the world was in "two illegal wars".

Bar: "My" friends did not yell any such thing.

CG: Now it's just two small global conflicts betweem a small percentage of people?

Bar: In relation to the planet at large, yes.

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CG: China is America's largest debt holder, and they aren't too happy about the US of A bailing everybody out and printing new money. We are in debt TRILLIONS of dollars to them

Bar: I asked for a citation on that claim. Can you provide one?

CG: Obama has spent more in his first 100 days than all other presidents combined

Bar: This is of course complete and utter nonsense. More money spent in 100 days than in the past 233 years combined?

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CG: Peace between nations? You mean like the genocide of tamils in Sri Lanka?

Bar: No. I refer instead to the tens of thousands of American businesses (for one example) peaceably doing business with people in over 100 countries around the world. I refer to the literally hundreds of millions of people peaceably interacting both economically and socially between nations around the world.

If you're inclined to focus on those involved in violent and warring relationships around the world, I've no interest in talking you out of it. But I'll nonetheless continue to focus on the billions (yes...billions) of people who are living in peace with their neighbors all around the globe. It is these people who will get my attention because I've learned that whatever I give my attention to is then better able to expand.

A) Bush's wars were evil and he was a fool for participating, now that they are Obama's wars, they are just tiny global conflicts between a small percentage of people and Obama is NOT a fool, even though he lied about withdrawl.

B) You really are financially ignorant aren't you. Why should I Have to "educate" you on our Debt to China, have you read the news in the last 3 years? You don't even need any fancy reports to see how up the ass we are in debt to the chineese, did you read the one about the pissed chineese government oh about a month ago, or Geithner and the currency manipulation? Countries go to war over this shit.

C) Obama's first 100 days he spent 787 billion dollars, and he is on pace to have trillion dollar defecits as far as the eye can see. The usa MIGHT be 20 trillion dollars in debt if by the time he's out.
 

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CG: A) Bush's wars were evil and he was a fool for participating, now that they are Obama's wars, they are just tiny global conflicts between a small percentage of people and Obama is NOT a fool, even though he lied about withdrawl.

Bar: Oh no. IMHO, Obama is also a fool for participating in the current wars in Southwest Asia.

CG: B) You really are financially ignorant aren't you. Why should I Have to "educate" you on our Debt to China

Bar: You don't have to do anything. I merely asked for a citation of your claim that we are "trillions of dollars in debt to China". If you cannot or do not want to provide a cite, that's cool.

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CG: C) Obama's first 100 days he spent 787 billion dollars.

Bar: So thus your earlier claim that he had spent "more in the first 100 day than all other Presidents combined" was perhaps the most outlandish exxageration you've ever ever posted here in our friendly PoliticoPub. In fact, that number is likely less than the amount spent just by BushCo in the first four months of 2008.

That's what I thought, but it helps that at least we both now admit it, eh?
 

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CG: A) Bush's wars were evil and he was a fool for participating, now that they are Obama's wars, they are just tiny global conflicts between a small percentage of people and Obama is NOT a fool, even though he lied about withdrawl.

Bar: Oh no. IMHO, Obama is also a fool for participating in the current wars in Southwest Asia.

CG: B) You really are financially ignorant aren't you. Why should I Have to "educate" you on our Debt to China

Bar: You don't have to do anything. I merely asked for a citation of your claim that we are "trillions of dollars in debt to China". If you cannot or do not want to provide a cite, that's cool.

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CG: C) Obama's first 100 days he spent 787 billion dollars.

Bar: So thus your earlier claim that he had spent "more in the first 100 day than all other Presidents combined" was perhaps the most outlandish exxageration you've ever ever posted here in our friendly PoliticoPub. In fact, that number is likely less than the amount spent just by BushCo in the first four months of 2008.

That's what I thought, but it helps that at least we both now admit it, eh?

You said Obama's a fool for increasing the war in Afgan, not me! The thing that gets me, is I always see these anti-war protester types, they always have all of these billboard signs and they used to have Bush is a war monger or some other message on them. About a month ago, I asked them why they didn't call out Obama... he is after all increating 1 war, and keeping the other one steady...

" yeah, we aren't happy about that".

But if Bush did that, they'd go nuts and call him the worst president ever, but Obama does it, and they are silently mad. Can't be mad at our first black president huh? Can't be mad at the teleprompter community organizer huh? His continuation of the Bush policies with wars/bail outs should enrage the liberal base, but they are quiet.... strange.

B) Why should I have to go look stuff up for you? Don't you liberals ever look up anything economic? Go find the number for yourself hot shot.

C) Has any other president ever spent 787 trillion dollars in their first hundred days? Has any other president had a PROJECTED budget decefit that would double the national debt ( and possibly triple it).

Who cares right? Obama will give money to the teachers union, the greens, the auto union, the bankers, poor people, people that want free medicare, and make RICH people, Middle class people, and future people pay for it all... how fair.

He's the greatest thief in human history. He spends money like Paris Hilton in a Prada store, or GTC in a candy store.
 

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Kaiser did not write this! Look it up, he reported it to snopes. I am not saying it isn't a well written piece, just that he didn't write it!!!
 

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If you google him and look at his blog, he reports that he DID NOT write this piece. Sorry to rain on the parade.
 

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CG: B) Why should I have to go look stuff up for you? Don't you liberals ever look up anything economic? Go find the number for yourself hot shot.

Bar: I told you that you don't have to do anything. I merely wanted to know if you could back up your wild claim that the US "owes trillions to China".

The fact that you can't is okay by me. But perhaps you might want to take a deeper breath the next time you start to type an hysterical and wildly exxagerated claim.


FWIW....I did research it and it took about 90 seconds to find the information

http://www.treas.gov/tic/mfh.txt which shows the holdings of US treasury debt by other countries shows we owe China 739billion.

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CG: Has any other president ever spent 787 trillion dollars in their first hundred days?

Bar: I don't know, though I'd not be shocked that the first 100 days of 2001 saw Washington spend close to that number.

What I DO know is that your earlier claim that "Obama spent more in first 100 days than all other Presidents combined" instantly moved to the #1 most hysterical and inaccurate claim I've read within this Politics Forum since I first started visiting four years ago.

Again, see the friendly advice offered above about Thinking Before You Type.

It's not unfair to level a wide variety of criticisms against the current President. But it greatly undermines your passionate presentation when you just make shit up.
 

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If you google him and look at his blog, he reports that he DID NOT write this piece. Sorry to rain on the parade.


Thanks, de la Crem.

I myself should have been smart enough to check into this piece when it was first posted. We get at least a couple such hoax OPEDs posted here each month.
 

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CG: B) Why should I have to go look stuff up for you? Don't you liberals ever look up anything economic? Go find the number for yourself hot shot.

Bar: I told you that you don't have to do anything. I merely wanted to know if you could back up your wild claim that the US "owes trillions to China".

The fact that you can't is okay by me. But perhaps you might want to take a deeper breath the next time you start to type an hysterical and wildly exxagerated claim.


FWIW....I did research it and it took about 90 seconds to find the information

http://www.treas.gov/tic/mfh.txt which shows the holdings of US treasury debt by other countries shows we owe China 739billion.

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CG: Has any other president ever spent 787 trillion dollars in their first hundred days?

Bar: I don't know, though I'd not be shocked that the first 100 days of 2001 saw Washington spend close to that number.

What I DO know is that your earlier claim that "Obama spent more in first 100 days than all other Presidents combined" instantly moved to the #1 most hysterical and inaccurate claim I've read within this Politics Forum since I first started visiting four years ago.

Again, see the friendly advice offered above about Thinking Before You Type.

It's not unfair to level a wide variety of criticisms against the current President. But it greatly undermines your passionate presentation when you just make shit up.

By the time we end up paying off that treasury debt ( and issuing more debt) we will indeed have the tab above 2 trillion dollars sent to mainland china. There you go, are you happy? It is NOT an exaggeration.



No other president in our history spent 787 billion dollars ( which will end up being over 1 trillion dollars) in his first 100 days in office and that wasn't even part of his budget.

Obama's budget defecits are going through the roof, and that's even with his people keeping tabs of the numbers, in reality, they project to be far worse.


but then your a liberal, nobody asked you to think... carry on.
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So now that we've shaken through the past couple hours of trading thoughts, what have we learned?

a) The US does NOT "owe trillions to China".

But we might....some day in the distant future.

b) President Obama did not "spend more in the first 100 days than all other (44) Presidents combined".

In fact, he barely outspent the first 100 days of GW Bush in 2001

But oh my, is Obama ever going to spend more in the next eight years. Maybe...or maybe not. Might be interesting to see if he can move closer to the job done by our last Democratic President who left office with a federal budget surplus for his last couple of years.
 

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Hat tip to CGold though, for at least choosing a Thread led off by a hoax OPED in which to post his imaginary complaints about the US economy.

We now return you to my hometown of Dallas TX for

DAL 2H -3 (-105) $20

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