History is Being Made and This Revolution is Not Getting the Coverage it Merits

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While the major news outlets are falling flat on their face for their appallingly bad coverage, the internet has stepped up and is providing real time updates, many supplied by Iranians themselves to this historical event.

As tiz has mentioned, The Huffington Post is doing an amazing job posting nearly everything that is leaking out of this locked down country. This is hisory unfolding before us, folks. When I came home from work, I turned on CNN to get an update and there was a fucking financial show on. Unreal.

I know many on the right wouldn't normally be caught dead on a Liberal site like The Huffington Post, but I believe that this is one issue in which we are united. The stories of bravery and heroism coming out of Iran is gut wrenching.

The woman murdered in the video below has become a martyr for these protesters. Everyone should watch this video, but please be aware that it is very graphic. I think it is this woman's sister who is providing one of the many live updates to The Huffington Post from out of Iran, but I could be wrong because there is another video of a women killed circulating as well.

Again, this is pretty rough to watch:

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My heart goes out to these people. The bloodshed, I fear, is far from over.
 

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I just read a translation and the man is saying "stay with us, don't be afraid, stay with us". And then when she bleeds out he says "May she rest in peace, a true child of Iran".

One of the more moving things I've seen in a long, long time...
 

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ya im getting feeds sent to me must be from huffington too( not sure just vids im getting down here)......amazing stuff
 

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Chaotic video of police singling out and attacking veiled women out of a very large crowd.

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Rough translation of the guy on the other side of the fence yelling at the police:

prepare, get ready... pedar sag (your dad is a dog) farsi equivalent of SOB... he says Haroomzadeha a lot. which is a typical farsi insult meaning Bastards (plural)... He shouts at them: Dont hit them! Dont hit them combined with above insults... Dont hit an old woman several times... go away... bastards(really pissed), why are you hitting peoples daughters... Izrail (in Islam the angel of death, in this case it's likely used as slang for 'devil' or 'person from hell')... honorless ones... they are hitting people daughters and sisters... then you hear the girl shouting bastards after which the guy says: i shit on the souls of your father and mother... go away filths, bastards, fatherless ones
 

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Why would you post that?


I thought that I gave sufficient warnings.

This video is important because this girl's name is going to forever be associated with this day and what the Iranian government did to it's own people.
 

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You did warn us, but my question was why did you post it, not why did I watch it but I hear ya. History is happening right now, thank god I have cable.
 

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A note from Neda's sister:

Yesterday I wrote a note, with the subject line "tomorrow is a great day perhaps tomorrow I'll be killed." I'm here to let you know I'm alive but my sister was killed...

I'm here to tell you my sister died while in her father's hands
I'm here to tell you my sister had big dreams...
I'm here to tell you my sister who died was a decent person... and like me yearned for a day when her hair would be swept by the wind... and like me read "Forough" [Forough Farrokhzad]... and longed to live free and equal... and she longed to hold her head up and announce, "I'm Iranian"... and she longed to one day fall in love to a man with a shaggy hair... and she longed for a daughter to braid her hair and sing lullaby by her crib...

my sister died from not having life... my sister died as injustice has no end... my sister died since she loved life too much... and my sister died since she lovingly cared for people...

my loving sister, I wish you had closed your eyes when your time had come... the very end of your last glance burns my soul....

sister have a short sleep. your last dream be sweet.
 

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I just read a translation and the man is saying "stay with us, don't be afraid, stay with us". And then when she bleeds out he says "May she rest in peace, a true child of Iran".

One of the more moving things I've seen in a long, long time...

That was her father.
 

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New York Times Op-Ed columnist Roger Cohen was out on Tehran’s streets on Saturday and has filed this account of what he witnessed:

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A Supreme Leader Loses His Aura as Iranians Flock to the Streets
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By ROGER COHEN

</NYT_BYLINE><NYT_TEXT>TEHRAN — The Iranian police commander, in green uniform, walked up Komak Hospital Alley with arms raised and his small unit at his side. “I swear to God,” he shouted at the protesters facing him, “I have children, I have a wife, I don’t want to beat people. Please go home.”

A man at my side threw a rock at him. The commander, unflinching, continued to plead. There were chants of “Join us! Join us!” The unit retreated toward Revolution Street, where vast crowds eddied back and forth confronted by baton-wielding Basij militia and black-clad riot police officers on motorbikes.

Dark smoke billowed over this vast city in the late afternoon. Motorbikes were set on fire, sending bursts of bright flame skyward. Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, the supreme leader, had used his Friday sermon to declare high noon in Tehran, warning of “bloodshed and chaos” if protests over a disputed election persisted.

He got both on Saturday — and saw the hitherto sacrosanct authority of his office challenged as never before since the 1979 revolution birthed the Islamic Republic and conceived for it a leadership post standing at the very flank of the Prophet. A multitude of Iranians took their fight through a holy breach on Saturday from which there appears to be scant turning back.

Khamenei has taken a radical risk. He has factionalized himself, so losing the arbiter’s lofty garb, by aligning himself with President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad against both Mir Hussein Moussavi, the opposition leader, and Ali Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani, a founding father of the revolution.

He has taunted millions of Iranians by praising their unprecedented participation in an election many now view as a ballot-box putsch. He has ridiculed the notion that an official inquiry into the vote might yield a different result. He has tried pathos and he has tried pounding his lectern.

In short, he has lost his aura.

The taboo-breaking response was unequivocal. It’s funny how people’s obsessions come back to bite them. I’ve been hearing about Khamenei’s fear of “velvet revolutions” for months now. There was nothing velvet about Saturday’s clashes. In fact, the initial quest to have Moussavi’s votes properly counted and Ahmadinejad unseated has shifted to a broader confrontation with the regime itself.

Garbage burned. Crowds bayed. Smoke from tear gas swirled. Hurled bricks sent phalanxes of police, some with automatic rifles, into retreat to the accompaniment of cheers. Early afternoon rumors that the rally for Moussavi had been canceled yielded to the reality of violent confrontation.

I don’t know where this uprising is leading. I do know some police units are wavering. That commander talking about his family was not alone. There were other policemen complaining about the unruly Basijis. Some security forces just stood and watched. “All together, all together, don’t be scared,” the crowd shouted.

I also know that Iran’s women stand in the vanguard. For days now, I’ve seen them urging less courageous men on. I’ve seen them get beaten and return to the fray. “Why are you sitting there?” one shouted at a couple of men perched on the sidewalk on Saturday. “Get up! Get up!”

Another green-eyed woman, Mahin, aged 52, staggered into an alley clutching her face and in tears. Then, against the urging of those around her, she limped back into the crowd moving west toward Freedom Square. Cries of “Death to the dictator!” and “We want liberty!” accompanied her.

There were people of all ages. I saw an old man on crutches, middle-aged office workers and bands of teenagers. Unlike the student revolts of 2003 and 1999, this movement is broad.

“Can’t the United Nations help us?” one woman asked me. I said I doubted that very much. “So,” she said, “we are on our own.”

The world is watching, and technology is connecting, and the West is sending what signals it can, but in the end that is true. Iranians have fought this lonely fight for a long time: to be free, to have a measure of democracy.

Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, the leader of the Islamic revolution, understood that, weaving a little plurality into an authoritarian system. That pluralism has ebbed and flowed since 1979 — mainly the former — but last week it was crushed with blunt brutality. That is why a whole new generation of Iranians, their intelligence insulted, has risen.

I’d say the momentum is with them for now. At moments on Saturday, Khamenei’s authority, which is that of the Islamic Republic itself, seemed fragile. The revolutionary authorities have always mocked the cancer-ridden Shah’s ceding before an uprising, and vowed never to bend in the same way. Their firepower remains formidable, but they are facing a swelling test.

Just off Revolution Street, I walked into a pall of tear gas. I’d lit a cigarette minutes before — not a habit but a need — and a young man collapsed into me shouting, “Blow smoke in my face.” Smoke dispels the effects of the gas to some degree.

I did what I could and he said, “We are with you” in English and with my colleague we tumbled into a dead end — Tehran is full of them — running from the searing gas and police. I gasped and fell through a door into an apartment building where somebody had lit a small fire in a dish to relieve the stinging.

There were about 20 of us gathered there, eyes running, hearts racing. A 19-year-old student was nursing his left leg, struck by a militiaman with an electric-shock-delivering baton. “No way we are turning back,” said a friend of his as he massaged that wounded leg.

Later, we moved north, tentatively, watching the police lash out from time to time, reaching Victory Square where a pitched battle was in progress. Young men were breaking bricks and stones to a size for hurling. Crowds gathered on overpasses, filming and cheering the protesters. A car burst into flames. Back and forth the crowd surged, confronted by less-than-convincing police units.

I looked up through the smoke and saw a poster of the stern visage of Khomeini above the words, “Islam is the religion of freedom.”

Later, as night fell over the tumultuous capital, gunfire could be heard in the distance. And from rooftops across the city, the defiant sound of “Allah-u-Akbar” — “God is Great” — went up yet again, as it has every night since the fraudulent election. But on Saturday it seemed stronger.

The same cry was heard in 1979, only for one form of absolutism to yield to another. Iran has waited long enough to be free.
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Why would you post that?

Often it takes a visual image to bring reality to us.

It took the photos of our National Guardsmen killing our students to bring the reality of Vietnam to the American people.
 
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This here problem is not something the good ol USA should meddle in. Obama should just monitor the situation, take some public opinion polls and make a speech every day about it. Perhaps we should get the UN involved or something? We just can not impose our values of democracy and freedom around the world. That would not be right.
 
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I agree, shoulda been the way we treated Iraq.

Do you think Iraq is better off with or with out Saddam? With or with out the possibility of democracy and more freedom for their people? With or with out a US military presence in the region?
 

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this may be the golden opportunity to rid the world of a tyrannical regime, and it may not even involve troops

unfortunately for the kids who desire freedom, the wrong man is in charge. They will receive no assistance or backing or sanctions or weapons or support in any way shape or form.

I wish them well, but my guess is that the tyrannical regime will be allowed to build a nuclear weapon, finance terrorism, provide a safe haven for terrorists and generally try to kill Americans for generations to come.

Once the uprising is suppressed, it will take a long time before anyone tries this again.

I wonder if Jimmy still thinks it was a good idea to allow the Shaw to fail and the Ayatollah to assume power. Then again, he called Arafat a friend.

we are going to open a dialogue with them :103631605

one born every second
 

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Do you think Iraq is better off with or with out Saddam? With or with out the possibility of democracy and more freedom for their people? With or with out a US military presence in the region?

I think just like you do about Iran. Its not our country and as long as they are not invading sovereign countries it not up to us to do anything but to lend moral support.
 

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this may be the golden opportunity to rid the world of a tyrannical regime, and it may not even involve troops

unfortunately for the kids who desire freedom, the wrong man is in charge. They will receive no assistance or backing or sanctions or weapons or support in any way shape or form.

I wish them well, but my guess is that the tyrannical regime will be allowed to build a nuclear weapon, finance terrorism, provide a safe haven for terrorists and generally try to kill Americans for generations to come.

Once the uprising is suppressed, it will take a long time before anyone tries this again.

I wonder if Jimmy still thinks it was a good idea to allow the Shaw to fail and the Ayatollah to assume power. Then again, he called Arafat a friend.

we are going to open a dialogue with them :103631605

one born every second

Good time to start a war on a 3rd front Willie?
 
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this may be the golden opportunity to rid the world of a tyrannical regime, and it may not even involve troops

unfortunately for the kids who desire freedom, the wrong man is in charge. They will receive no assistance or backing or sanctions or weapons or support in any way shape or form.

I wish them well, but my guess is that the tyrannical regime will be allowed to build a nuclear weapon, finance terrorism, provide a safe haven for terrorists and generally try to kill Americans for generations to come.

Once the uprising is suppressed, it will take a long time before anyone tries this again.

I wonder if Jimmy still thinks it was a good idea to allow the Shaw to fail and the Ayatollah to assume power. Then again, he called Arafat a friend.

we are going to open a dialogue with them :103631605

one born every second


Maybe we could send Jimmy Carter over there to get things done?

Something tells me this is a historic world event that is unfolding before our eyes and our leader is not acting presidential. Quoting MLK and telling Iran the world is watching likely will not cut it. After all, the world has been watching them for hundreds of years and likely the world will watch them develop and use a nuclear bomb.
 

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