Hillary Clinton plans to tie Donald Trump to the ‘alt-right’ and the worst of the Web

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I wonder if she'll mention sickos like Canadaian Fruit Casper, The fake Religious Fraud, the Terrorist Supporting and Kid Touching Supporting POS, Lying WELCHING Ace, The No Life Sick Brit Twit, and the rest of Sick Cult by name. :):)


[h=1]Hillary Clinton plans to tie Donald Trump to the ‘alt-right’ and the worst of the Web[/h]




By Philip Bump August 23
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A woman wears a shirt with the likeness of Donald Trump during a campaign rally at the Erie Insurance Arena in Erie, Pa., on Aug. 12, 2016. (Ty Wright/Bloomberg News)
A news release from the Hillary Clinton campaign on Tuesday morning contained a phrase that would have baffled those paying only casual attention to the presidential election -- and baffled nearly everyone if it had been used 24 months ago.
"On Thursday, August 25," it read, "Hillary Clinton will campaign in Reno, Nevada, and deliver a speech to address Donald Trump and his advisors' embrace of the disturbing 'alt-right' political philosophy." Understanding that "alt-right" might not immediately be understood by readers, the campaign offered a brief definition: "This 'alt-right' brand is embracing extremism and presenting a divisive and dystopian view of America which should concern all Americans, regardless of party."

A lot has been written about the "alt-right," not all of it free of contradictions. At Vox, Dylan Matthews explored the rhetoric and policy ideas that motivated some early proponents of an alternative to the contemporary political right, among them a rejection of democracy and an embrace of isolationism. A more sympathetic frame for the political thinking behind the alt-right was presented at Breitbart earlier this year, before the head of the outlet decamped to run Donald Trump's campaign. At Breitbart, a number of alt-right intellectuals are identified, praised less for their intellectual pursuits than for their willingness to ignore societal norms.
One of the bylines on that Breitbart piece should offer more insight into the nature of the alt-right as manifested in the presidential campaign: Milo Yiannopoulos. In December, BuzzFeed's Rosie Gray explained how the alt-right was powered by a sense of victimhood among straight, white men combined with photo-editing software and the power of the Internet. If you've ever seen the word "cuckservative" used on social media, you've heard the chatter of the visible, 2016 alt-right. If you've ever seen an image of a green frog wearing a Nazi uniform, you've seen the alt-right's fingerprints.
The goal is often offensiveness for the sake of offensiveness in the way that many young white men embrace. Yiannopoulos does. He gained notoriety in part by championing the Gamergate movement, a dry run of the pro-white-male activism and harassment that now defines the alt-right to many. Gamergate, our Caitlin Dewey wrote in 2014, "was always about how we define our shared cultural spaces, how we delineate identity, who is and is not allowed to have a voice in mainstream culture." That's a good descriptor for the online efforts of the alt-right, too: rejecting the "political correctness" of not misrepresenting data on immigration and refusing to kowtow to those who look unfavorably on anti-Semitism.
Yiannopoulos told the New Yorker that the appeal of the alt-right is that "it promises fun, transgression, and a challenge to social norms." In practice, that fun often looks like online harassment campaigns against women, liberals and Jews.

Anti-Jewish, anti-Muslim and otherwise explicit images riddle the online alt-right. In part, that's because it is partly an outgrowth of sites such as Reddit and especially oooo, where there's often an unspoken contest to be as offensive as possible in images or comments. But it's also because oooo provides the same outlet that Gamergate and the alt-right do: An opportunity to say racist, rude things in a way that feels empowering. Fun. Transgressive. A challenge to social norms. Also, a campaign of organized obnoxiousness against a black actress that gets you kicked off Twitter. As one conservative said to BuzzFeed's Gray, "It’s really hard to tease out the genuine white nationalists from the trolls. At a certain point, the distinction isn’t meaningful. If you spend all day saying white nationalist things online but you claim you’re doing it ironically, it’s not clear to me what the difference really is."


Matthew Continetti of the conservative Washington Free Beacon lamented that the conservative movement's efforts to expunge historic racist and anti-immigrant elements were undercut by the self-publishing ethos of the Web.
The castle no longer has walls. The gatekeepers are mostly useless. Yes, the rise of social media may have helped conservatives—it allowed them to investigate, report, opine, entertain, and influence politics and policy by giving them the means to bypass liberal outlets. ... But there is also a cost. As conservative media has proliferated, the authority of any one man or publication or radio show or television network has receded to the point of invisibility. For a time conservatism may have resembled the Catholic Church, with Buckley as pope, issuing bulls and ex-communicating heretics. But conservatism these days more closely resembles Islam, with untold numbers of mullahs issuing contradictory fatwas, with antagonistic schools of thought competing for adherents, with not a few radicals eager and willing to blow the whole thing up.






The alt-right's favored candidate for president is Donald Trump, manifested in its online activism and its deployment of Photoshop to Trump's aid. Trump's strong positions against immigration from Muslim countries and across the border from Mexico coupled with his apparently inadvertent penchant for tweeting racist and anti-Semitic imagery has been embraced by the alt-right (as well as self-identified racists more broadly). His decision to elevate Breitbart's Steve Bannon to run his campaign only reinforced the alt-right's appreciation. In an essay in The Washington Post last week, a former Breitbart employee declared Bannon's ascension a "dangerous seizure of the conservative movement by the alt-right."
That's the appeal for Clinton. By criticizing Trump's relationship with the alt-right, she gets to call Trump racist and anti-Semitic without calling him racist and anti-Semitic. She gets to tie him to what the worst of the community does (not that Trump makes those ties harder to draw). Clinton gets to summarize Trump's worldview in its ugliest manifestation and run against that, and each time some bit of alt-right obnoxiousness breaks through into public awareness, she gets to use it as a cudgel against him.
Campaign chairman John Podesta explained the rationale in a statement to The Post. "We intend to call out this 'alt-right' shift and the divisive and dystopian vision of America they put forth because it tells voters everything they need to know about Donald Trump himself," he said. "Republicans up and down the ticket are going to have to choose whether they want to be complicit in this lurch toward extremism or stand with the voters who can’t stomach it."
In other words, Clinton thinks the alt-right -- which is only tangential to Trump -- can help her beat him, by further drawing Republicans away from their candidate.
And she's probably right.
 

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I have asked you before but received no response.

You, by your own admission believe that HRC was complicit in Vince Foster's death, actually in on it.

How can you continually slam a politician who's words you disagree with(Trump) but rarely, if ever slam HRC for her part in an actual murder/suicide?

I know you are a strange older dude but give me some feedback. Not as bad as your Lewandowski to Hitler, Himler analogy but what's your rationale?
 

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I have asked you before but received no response.

You, by your own admission believe that HRC was complicit in Vince Foster's death, actually in on it.

How can you continually slam a politician who's words you disagree with(Trump) but rarely, if ever slam HRC for her part in an actual murder/suicide?

I know you are a strange older dude but give me some feedback. Not as bad as your Lewandowski to Hitler, Himler analogy but what's your rationale?
I've answered before, and I'll answer again. And then you'll again accuse me of giving you no response, again. Part of those "Detective Skills" you have a serious deficiency in, and need serious work on, involves looking, listening, and paying attention.
I've panned Hillary plenty, and am not voting for her. The Vince Fotser post was 12 years ago, and I was relying on material I was reading from Chris Ruddy in the NY Post every day. I am not as sure about it now as I was then. Many people have torn Ruddy's theories apart, and Ruddy himself, donated $500,000 to the Clinton Foundation and pledged $500,000 more. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...dy-righty-newsman-pledges-1m-to-clintons.html
If it was strictly a 2 person choice, between her and him, it's an easy choice, and it ain't him. He's a dangerous Fascist sociopath, she's a liar, who will basically keep us in the status quo, which is pretty good, except she'll likley be more Hawkish than Obama. Drumpf's words are dangerous, his actions are dangerous, the Xenophobia he stirs up is dangerous. He has no self control, no filter. He will cause a massive collpase in the markets, and that may only be the start of what collapses, as he has no fucking idea what he's doing or saying from day to day.
 

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I've answered before, and I'll answer again. And then you'll again accuse me of giving you no response, again. Part of those "Detective Skills" you have a serious deficiency in, and need serious work on, involves looking, listening, and paying attention.
I've panned Hillary plenty, and am not voting for her. The Vince Fotser post was 12 years ago, and I was relying on material I was reading from Chris Ruddy in the NY Post every day. I am not as sure about it now as I was then. Many people have torn Ruddy's theories apart, and Ruddy himself, donated $500,000 to the Clinton Foundation and pledged $500,000 more. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...dy-righty-newsman-pledges-1m-to-clintons.html
If it was strictly a 2 person choice, between her and him, it's an easy choice, and it ain't him. He's a dangerous Fascist sociopath, she's a liar, who will basically keep us in the status quo, which is pretty good, except she'll likley be more Hawkish than Obama. Drumpf's words are dangerous, his actions are dangerous, the Xenophobia he stirs up is dangerous. He has no self control, no filter. He will cause a massive collpase in the markets, and that may only be the start of what collapses, as he has no fucking idea what he's doing or saying from day to day.

You sure you are not a progressive or establishment republican? you sound just like them. It's this thinking that is making this country slide into the downward spiral it's been on.
I'm not a big Trump supporter but I know that the policies from Hillary will kill this country as it is. Trump is not a politician and that's what you don't like.

You throw facist and xenophobe around like a liberal, progressive, communist... He is not a politician and does not speak like a politician.
You can say what you want but it's people like you that are dangerous to this country supporting the liberal, progressive, pc agenda...
 
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I've answered before, and I'll answer again. And then you'll again accuse me of giving you no response, again. Part of those "Detective Skills" you have a serious deficiency in, and need serious work on, involves looking, listening, and paying attention.
I've panned Hillary plenty, and am not voting for her. The Vince Fotser post was 12 years ago, and I was relying on material I was reading from Chris Ruddy in the NY Post every day. I am not as sure about it now as I was then. Many people have torn Ruddy's theories apart, and Ruddy himself, donated $500,000 to the Clinton Foundation and pledged $500,000 more. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...dy-righty-newsman-pledges-1m-to-clintons.html
If it was strictly a 2 person choice, between her and him, it's an easy choice, and it ain't him. He's a dangerous Fascist sociopath, she's a liar, who will basically keep us in the status quo, which is pretty good, except she'll likley be more Hawkish than Obama. Drumpf's words are dangerous, his actions are dangerous, the Xenophobia he stirs up is dangerous. He has no self control, no filter. He will cause a massive collpase in the markets, and that may only be the start of what collapses, as he has no fucking idea what he's doing or saying from day to day.

Why do you believe Trump will cause a "massive collapse in the markets"? Also, what Obama/HClinton policies do you believe have led to the increase in asset values?
 

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Why do you believe Trump will cause a "massive collapse in the markets"? Also, what Obama/HClinton policies do you believe have led to the increase in asset values?
1)Because he has no fucking idea what he's doing, and would bring massive instability to the markets, and to the world. The Markets crave stability, dependability. Hillary will continue the course that the Obama admin has laid out, that has led to the highly successful market performance we've seen. I remember when QE2 ended, all the doom and gloomers assured us that was the end of the Obama Boom, the market would tank. Not quite. Of course they assured us that when Obama was elected, a triple not quite. And Brucie Baby, bless his heart, is still predicting it.
Markets boomed under Clinton, Markets boomed under Obama, markets tanked under W, for the most part. http://politicsthatwork.com/graphs/dow-jones-performance-by-party
2)I'm no economist, so I don't care what has the market at the great levels they are, just that they are there, and have continued and been relatively stable through all 8 years. I don't care how the team I bet on covers, just that they do.
 

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You sure you are not a progressive or establishment republican? you sound just like them. It's this thinking that is making this country slide into the downward spiral it's been on.
I'm not a big Trump supporter but I know that the policies from Hillary will kill this country as it is. Trump is not a politician and that's what you don't like.

You throw facist and xenophobe around like a liberal, progressive, communist... He is not a politician and does not speak like a politician.
You can say what you want but it's people like you that are dangerous to this country supporting the liberal, progressive, pc agenda...
You know little about me. In no possible way do I support a "PC Agenda", whatever the hell you think it is, other than just a wingnut talking point.
What I don't like about the Idiot Drumpf isn't that he's not a politician, but that he's a dangerous, sociopath fascist, who has no moral core.
 

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Guesser of course is 100% false.

Trump knows exactly what he is doing. World markets? What the duck does Hillary know about world markets? If you call succumbing to the manipulative games of George Soros normal, maybe Hillary is the better choice.

Trump and Putin are the same in the aspect as they want NOTHING to do with the NWO like Obama and Hillary have sold out too.
 

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You know little about me. In no possible way do I support a "PC Agenda", whatever the hell you think it is, other than just a wingnut talking point.
What I don't like about the Idiot Drumpf isn't that he's not a politician, but that he's a dangerous, sociopath fascist, who has no moral core.

More lies...you are describing Hillary.
 

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More lies...you are describing Hillary.

I don't dislike Trump too much but it's becoming more and more clear that he has no idea what he's talking about and no idea what he's doing. I like his style with some things but he's not somebody that should be president
 

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Guesser of course is 100% false.

Trump knows exactly what he is doing. World markets? What the duck does Hillary know about world markets? If you call succumbing to the manipulative games of George Soros normal, maybe Hillary is the better choice.

Trump and Putin are the same in the aspect as they want NOTHING to do with the NWO like Obama and Hillary have sold out too.
No surprise this Anti Semitic, Racist Islamophobe is an NWO Believer. The only NWO was these guys, and they're long gone.
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This new "alt right" talking point bullshit is the crooked cackling cu*t laying the groundwork for pulling out of the debates.
 

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Hillary does have to go all out with these new campaign ads, cause the email and Clinton Foundation scandals are heating up on a weekly basis, and seem to be gaining traction. So got to try and deflect as much as possible and in the biggest way, get the talking heads talking about something else.

While there are, I would guess 85%, on each side who arent changing their vote no matter what.... they have to shoot and either try to disway that 15% from voting at all, or vote for them.

Trump could come out and say he is just in it for the popularity and money, he is a racist, and its all a sham by him, and still get his votes by his base...

And Hillary could say she does have the Clinton Foundation to line her pockets, she does do pay 4 play, and her private server she knew was illegal and didnt care.... and still get votes by her base...

That is just how bad politics are now days... no matter how bad, crooked, scandalous your team is, you support it no matter what, and ignore how bad it is.

#NoTrump #NoHillary

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Trump could come out and say he is just in it for the popularity and money, he is a racist, and its all a sham by him, and still get his votes by his base...


He could even say stuff like, 'even if he started shooting people on 5th ave, he still wouldnt lose any voters'

Joe would still vote for Trump, if he wasnt Canadian
 

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Hillary does have to go all out with these new campaign ads, cause the email and Clinton Foundation scandals are heating up on a weekly basis, and seem to be gaining traction. So got to try and deflect as much as possible and in the biggest way, get the talking heads talking about something else.

While there are, I would guess 85%, on each side who arent changing their vote no matter what.... they have to shoot and either try to disway that 15% from voting at all, or vote for them.

Trump could come out and say he is just in it for the popularity and money, he is a racist, and its all a sham by him, and still get his votes by his base...

And Hillary could say she does have the Clinton Foundation to line her pockets, she does do pay 4 play, and her private server she knew was illegal and didnt care.... and still get votes by her base...

That is just how bad politics are now days... no matter how bad, crooked, scandalous your team is, you support it no matter what, and ignore how bad it is.

#NoTrump #NoHillary

#GaryJohson2016
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Hillary does have to go all out with these new campaign ads, cause the email and Clinton Foundation scandals are heating up on a weekly basis, and seem to be gaining traction. So got to try and deflect as much as possible and in the biggest way, get the talking heads talking about something else.

While there are, I would guess 85%, on each side who arent changing their vote no matter what.... they have to shoot and either try to disway that 15% from voting at all, or vote for them.

Trump could come out and say he is just in it for the popularity and money, he is a racist, and its all a sham by him, and still get his votes by his base...

And Hillary could say she does have the Clinton Foundation to line her pockets, she does do pay 4 play, and her private server she knew was illegal and didnt care.... and still get votes by her base...

That is just how bad politics are now days... no matter how bad, crooked, scandalous your team is, you support it no matter what, and ignore how bad it is.

#NoTrump #NoHillary

#GaryJohson2016

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1)Because he has no fucking idea what he's doing, and would bring massive instability to the markets, and to the world. The Markets crave stability, dependability. Hillary will continue the course that the Obama admin has laid out, that has led to the highly successful market performance we've seen. I remember when QE2 ended, all the doom and gloomers assured us that was the end of the Obama Boom, the market would tank. Not quite. Of course they assured us that when Obama was elected, a triple not quite. And Brucie Baby, bless his heart, is still predicting it.
Markets boomed under Clinton, Markets boomed under Obama, markets tanked under W, for the most part. http://politicsthatwork.com/graphs/dow-jones-performance-by-party
2)I'm no economist, so I don't care what has the market at the great levels they are, just that they are there, and have continued and been relatively stable through all 8 years. I don't care how the team I bet on covers, just that they do.

You should care. You know what "markets love" more than "stability". Cheap debt, and more specifically debt-funded corporate buybacks.

You should also care how they cover. How a team plays should be a factor in whether you wager on them or against them down the road.
 

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I think there are 3 usual R voters in the poly forum voting for GJ. Trends, Mantis and me. And one usual d voter, Guesser. We have to start some where to get a 3rd option down the line.

A vote for GJ is the same as a vote for Hillary. Not any bitching from any GJ voters about a Hillary win.

I just dont get it.
 

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A vote for GJ is the same as a vote for Hillary. Not any bitching from any GJ voters about a Hillary win.

I just dont get it.

Im voting as a vote against the corrupt and scandal ridden 2-party hack system.

More votes the better for 3rd party, send a message that not that many people are brainwashed and are tired of being abused and used by their system.
 

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