Hilary or Trump?

[scottcarter]

'....and a people with the power to govern themselves'


:nohead:

creating a massive debt and then telling everyone how much you need them to fix it. Isn't that basically what they are doing?

Government have convinced the masses that they are needed more and more when the opposite is true.

sigh.

 

[scottcarter]

Sounds like you righties need to get in shape what with us kicking your ass steady for eight years now.

Or maybe you could start a cable news station that caters to an audience with a median viewer age of 68 years old and approximately 75% male.

Then you could spew Right Thinking American propog------ errrrrr, information 24/7 and surely that would raise your pull on males age 18-55 and women of all ages.

You just need to get better organized and you could swing this population!

come on. No one is kicking anyone's ass. Except 16 years of government kicking the people's asses. Lies, corruption, incompetence, wars, obamacare, spying on its citizens and the deterioration of civil liberties. Fuck, you can't even bet on a baseball game legally online.

I swear they do this shit just to see what people will actually buy. The crazier it gets, the more people will actually believe it.

Let's tell them there's WMD's and go to war.

Let's allow financial institutions to sell garbage mortgages around the world as triple A. Then we'll bail them out using taxpayer money and not send anyone to jail.

Let's tell everyone the stimulus will create shovel ready jobs

Let's tell everyone unemployment is 5%

Let's pass obamacare without letting anyone read it and them blame the other guys.

 

[barman]

do you have a backup plan for Happiness when Trump quits?

 

[Ricboff]

come on. No one is kicking anyone's ass. Except 16 years of government kicking the people's asses. Lies, corruption, incompetence, wars, obamacare, spying on its citizens and the deterioration of civil liberties. Fuck, you can't even bet on a baseball game legally online.

I swear they do this shit just to see what people will actually buy. The crazier it gets, the more people will actually believe it.

Let's tell them there's WMD's and go to war.

Let's allow financial institutions to sell garbage mortgages around the world as triple A. Then we'll bail them out using taxpayer money and not send anyone to jail.

Let's tell everyone the stimulus will create shovel ready jobs

Let's tell everyone unemployment is 5%

Let's pass obamacare without letting anyone read it and them blame the other guys.

who is 'they'? the PEOPLE in govt, those in charge of policy? If policy has gone awry then get NEW PEOPLE in charge



you seen concerned with the debt? well, there's a candidate running for President who as a governor increased jobs, balanced the budget in his state, .....actually ran a surplus. Not bad... ....eh?







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'Government have convinced the masses that they are needed more and more'


they have? wasn't aware that's part of their message

 

[scottcarter]

who is 'they'? the PEOPLE in govt, those in charge of policy? If policy has gone awry then get NEW PEOPLE in charge



you seen concerned with the debt? well, there's a candidate running for President who as a governor increased jobs, balanced the budget in his state, .....actually ran a surplus. Not bad... ....eh?







'
'Government have convinced the masses that they are needed more and more'


they have? wasn't aware that's part of their message

Kasich is a nice guy. Just more of the same in all likelihood though. The US needs a leader. A dealmaker. One that isn't beholden to special interests, isn't afraid to speak his mind and tackle the hard issues. Trump is the only one that fits criteria.

Kasich will make a good VP.

 

[Ricboff]

how to you know he won't be beholden to special interests? Cause he says so? You have a lot of faith in him...........Isn't afraid to speak his mind? like logging on to twitter and insulting others? that's 'leadership'? ...........


Kasich has a track record, that's for sure.

 

[PatsFan1283]

how to you know he won't be beholden to special interests? Cause he says so? You have a lot of faith in him...........Isn't afraid to speak his mind? like logging on to twitter and insulting others? that's 'leadership'? ...........


Kasich has a track record, that's for sure.

Look at how he shut down the ethanol boondoggle in Iowa. Told them farmers that the days of corporate welfare and crony capitalism are over. The man will not just say what people want to hear because it is politically advantageous to do so.

Wait nevermind, that was Cruz. Well, atleast Trump will make deals. Great deals. The best deals.

 

[Ricboff]

Look at how he shut down the ethanol boondoggle in Iowa. Told them farmers that the days of corporate welfare and crony capitalism are over. The man will not just say what people want to hear because it is politically advantageous to do so.

Wait nevermind, that was Cruz. Well, atleast Trump will make deals. Great deals. The best deals.

'.....i know words........i have the best words...........'

 

[neverbend]

Tough to see what the media and establishment republicans are doing to Trump. This guy is the president we've been waiting for.

I am very worried about this counties future with hillary. Worried about our economy and our security

Make no mistake boys. Anyone but Trump will get beat by Hillary Clinton

It's either Trump or Hillary. If Trump gathers enough delegates on the 1st ballot it's Trump by a
mile. If they take it away from Trump in a contested convention 40% of Trump supporters will
not support the establishments hand=picked candidate and it will be Clinton in a landslide.

 

[neverbend]

You simply don't have a clue. Trump is getting drubbed by Hillary.....trailing by double digits and it would be a massacre. Trump could never beat Hillary and if you repubs don't won't Hillary to be president......find a way to get Kasich the nomination.

Reminds me of what the naysayers were babbling on about Reagan in 1980!

[h=1]DESPITE LATEST MEDIA SMEAR=> Trump’s Favorable Rating Rivals Reagan’s in 1980[/h]Jim Hoft Apr 8th, 2016 8:17 am 434 Comments
A new Associated Press poll released today found after months of media and GOP establishment attacks a majority of Americans overwhelmingly view Trump negatively.
Six in 10 people have an unfavorable view of Ted Cruz even though the liberal media has not started its campaign of destruction against the Texas senator.
Grandma Hillary has a 55% unfavorable rating.
Trump is wildly popular with Middle Class voters but that doesn’t impress the Beltway elites.
Ronald Reagan’s favorable rating was also at 30% back in March 1980.
The GOP elites at the time also worried he could never win.
Back in March 1980 the establishment said the same thing about Ronald Reagan.
They said he could never defeat Jimmy Carter.

 

[neverbend]

Cruz has exactly zero chance against Hillary


Say what you want about your poll results, that shit is skewed against Trump just like everything else in this crooked election.

Cruz would be beaten by Ms. Clinton in a fashion reminding one of what Nixon did to McGovern in 1972. His
core of support is very small, he's the caucus king where where a miniscule cadre of super hyper activists can hyjack
delegates. Actually in his most impressive non causus win more than half of the votes he got were not Cruz
votes but anti-Trump votes.

Cruz could beat Fiorina, Graham or Perry, the 1st 3 to endorse him in a one on one but besides for that crew
he's vertually unelectable. The guy who who has had introducing him at his rallies is Glenn Beck.
'Beck, who also believes the will of God moves through Ted Cruz,'
Please give Glenn Beck another piece of Mormon Cheese Cake, and tell him Mittens and Cruz
are not the Son of God. Beck is as crazy as a wharf rat.
The Ted Cruz campaign has now officially arrived at Jonestown.'

 

[vitterd]

Reminds me of what the naysayers were babbling on about Reagan in 1980!

DESPITE LATEST MEDIA SMEAR=> Trump’s Favorable Rating Rivals Reagan’s in 1980

Jim Hoft Apr 8th, 2016 8:17 am 434 Comments
A new Associated Press poll released today found after months of media and GOP establishment attacks a majority of Americans overwhelmingly view Trump negatively.
Six in 10 people have an unfavorable view of Ted Cruz even though the liberal media has not started its campaign of destruction against the Texas senator.
Grandma Hillary has a 55% unfavorable rating.
Trump is wildly popular with Middle Class voters but that doesn’t impress the Beltway elites.
Ronald Reagan’s favorable rating was also at 30% back in March 1980.
The GOP elites at the time also worried he could never win.
Back in March 1980 the establishment said the same thing about Ronald Reagan.
They said he could never defeat Jimmy Carter.

The country is much different than it was in 1980......almost as different as Reagan and Trump.

 

[JustinCruise]

Obama gets hammered daily in the media, both the small amount of Liberal media that remains(small dayparts of MSNBC at night), The Mainstream CNN, and the networks, and the Major Portion of the Media, the Conservative Mainstream Media(Fox and their ilk). Even with that, Obama has a net positive rating. Pretty amazing actually, except when you look at the facts. Markets way up, Unemployment way down, No 911 style attacks on his watch.

The small amount of liberal media lol

 

[RenoChazz]

who is 'they'? the PEOPLE in govt, those in charge of policy? If policy has gone awry then get NEW PEOPLE in charge



you seen concerned with the debt? well, there's a candidate running for President who as a governor increased jobs, balanced the budget in his state, .....actually ran a surplus. Not bad... ....eh?







'
'Government have convinced the masses that they are needed more and more'


they have? wasn't aware that's part of their message

Gary Johnson?

 

[The Guesser]

The small amount of liberal media lol

Yep, compared to the mainstream Conservative media that controls things nowadays, it's extremely small. There was such a thing as the mainstream liberal media, but those days have passed and gone the other way in the last decade. But the biggest Cable News Network, Fox News, and the biggest Radio guys like Rush or Savage will continue to sell you the opposite, that they are the exception, and you'll actually believe it, LOL. They depend on fools, and there's no shortage.

 

[Albatross]

Obama gets hammered daily in the media, both the small amount of Liberal media that remains(small dayparts of MSNBC at night), The Mainstream CNN, and the networks, and the Major Portion of the Media, the Conservative Mainstream Media(Fox and their ilk). Even with that, Obama has a net positive rating. Pretty amazing actually, except when you look at the facts. Markets way up, Unemployment way down, No 911 style attacks on his watch.

Unemployment way down........interesting.

 

[The Guesser]

Unemployment way down........interesting.

Not even debatable, my man. http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000

2008	5.0	4.9	5.1	5.0	5.4	5.6	5.8	6.1	6.1	6.5	6.8	7.3
2009	7.8	8.3	8.7	9.0	9.4	9.5	9.5	9.6	9.8	10.0	9.9	9.9
2010	9.8	9.8	9.9	9.9	9.6	9.4	9.4	9.5	9.5	9.4	9.8	9.3
2011	9.1	9.0	9.0	9.1	9.0	9.1	9.0	9.0	9.0	8.8	8.6	8.5
2012	8.3	8.3	8.2	8.2	8.2	8.2	8.2	8.1	7.8	7.8	7.7	7.9
2013	8.0	7.7	7.5	7.6	7.5	7.5	7.3	7.3	7.3	7.2	6.9	6.7
2014	6.6	6.7	6.7	6.2	6.2	6.1	6.2	6.2	6.0	5.7	5.8	5.6
2015	5.7	5.5	5.5	5.4	5.5	5.3	5.3	5.1	5.1	5.0	5.0	5.0
2016	4.9	4.9	5.0

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[Albatross]

Does that factor in the people who have left the job pool?

 

[Acebb]

Obama gets hammered daily in the media, both the small amount of Liberal media that remains(small dayparts of MSNBC at night), The Mainstream CNN, and the networks, and the Major Portion of the Media, the Conservative Mainstream Media(Fox and their ilk). Even with that, Obama has a net positive rating. Pretty amazing actually, except when you look at the facts. Markets way up, Unemployment way down, No 911 style attacks on his watch.

You have to be both a special kind of stupid and utterly delusional to type such things.

Other than CBS News (fake TANG memos), ABC News (stocked with former Dem operatives), NBC News (see ABC News), CNN (run by a self described liberal), MSNBC, CNBC, the New York Times, NPR, Washington Post, LA Times and every other big-medium sized city paper, there are like no liberal media left, man!!

You're a complete loon and a total embarrassment.

 

[Acebb]

Obama gets hammered daily in the media, both the small amount of Liberal media that remains(small dayparts of MSNBC at night), The Mainstream CNN, and the networks, and the Major Portion of the Media, the Conservative Mainstream Media(Fox and their ilk). Even with that, Obama has a net positive rating. Pretty amazing actually, except when you look at the facts. Markets way up, Unemployment way down, No 911 style attacks on his watch.

By the way, since Obama is "hammered daily by the media" why don't you give us 2 examples from say yesterday's New York Times and CBS News?

I mean, you said it, so it must be true and easily verified, right?