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HERE COMES PANAMA
7/17/03 - TheShrink

Since this was my first trip to Panama, I didn't know what to expect when I arrived last Thursday.

Many questions filled my head as we landed on the dark tarmac. Would it be anything like Costa Rica? Why did it take so long for Panama to finally have an offshore sports book? How was the infrastructure compared to other countries that support bookmaking? Because I hadn't eaten since leaving Virginia, I wondered about the quality of the food.

Krackman, Scotty and one of the owners of BetPanAm.com were waiting for me at the airport. Since we were all starving, the guys hijacked me to the nearest restaurant instead of taking me to the hotel.

It was a pleasure to see Marty Monroe, another familiar face who I have known for several years, at dinner. He was one of the reasons that ROYAL sports book had been so successful in the past.

Marty arrived in Panama months ago to assist in the set up of BetPanAm.com He understands the offshore industry well and is one of the people I respect the most because of his experience and successful track record.

The same can be said for both Scotty and Krackman. Their amazing eating skills are surpassed only by their keen understanding of offshore sports betting!

After dinner, I was finally taken to the hotel they had reserved for me, appropriately named the El Panama. The hotel accommodations were top notch, and I was pleased that the nicest casino in Panama City was inside my hotel. After playing a little craps and winning some money, I decided to call it a night because I was thoroughly exhausted from the long flight.

The next day was perhaps the most exciting because I had a meeting with the main owner of BetPanAm.com. I was rather curious to meet him and get the nitty-gritty on Panama and his new operation.

When I arrived at lunch, I knew instantly who the head honcho was. Sitting at a large table, he looked to be my age and a native of Panama. What really struck me the most was his strong love and passion for his country.

He educated all of us about Panama, its charm and its history, and the fact that Asians make up 11 percent of the population. This is a proud and educated man. "When I do things, I want it to be the best, he stated."

It was then time to dive into the purpose of my trip and learn all about BetPanAm.com and Panama's infrastructure.

Anyone applying for a license in Panama will not only have a background check, but will have to pass Interpol as well. 'Bad elements' need not apply for a license in Panama because they aren't going to get one. In fact, some have already been turned down. They will do their due diligence and past history is looked at carefully.

Since Panama views bookmaking as legal, a past indictment on bookmaking charges will not eliminate a prospective applicant from being able to obtain a sub license.

Additionally, EVERY LICENSEE must post a $500,000 bond with the government to insure payment is available in case of a dispute that is upheld in favor of the player!

There are real regulations in Panama which prevent some cowboy operations that we find in Costa Rica from even thinking of setting up shop here. The government has the right and the authority to visit the sports book at any time. And similar to Australia, it has the authority to listen to a dispute and make a final judgement.

Panama is much more modern than I had ever dreamed. The city's skyline resembles Miami and it boasts some great restaurants, nightlife, fishing, and yes, women, too.

While many operators have told me they are waiting to see how successful BetPanAm.com and Beverly Hills Bookie can be, I can tell you first hand that I believe Panama will be the next sports betting Mecca.

Ask any international accountant and you will learn that Panama’s banking is among the safest and best in the world. Panama even uses the dollar as its main currency, not colognes or pesos!

There has been talk about Panama refusing to stand up to the United States. Well, if any country is buckling under to U.S. demands right now, it is Costa Rica. There is no way Panama would allow the U.S. to dictate what will happen to its sports books. I believe Panama can police itself properly without any outside assistance from Uncle Sam.

The infrastructure that exists in Panama makes this country the perfect haven for relocating an existing sports book. For example, BetPanAm.com has a new end-to-end communications system on an all-fiber network. That system terminates one step off all the backbones to the Web. In addition, its bandwidth allocated to the internet connection is 200 percent of expected usage.

Their phone network uses Cable and Wireless, a worldwide carrier. All toll free 800 numbers are conditioned as internet traffic that terminate just one time - in Panama. They have totally redundant communications on both the internet and phone and have duel fiber cables from two separate switches on the fiber ring throughout Panama City.

BetPanAm.com has Dell computer systems that only use certified network capable hardware, with no clones! They have four on-site IT workers, all experienced in Network engineering and SQL database management. Someone is on site to immediately solve any glitches.

I do want to stress that BetPanAm.com will be offering payouts seven days per week. They also believe they will be the fastest to pay out, using every known vehicle for both inbound and outbound transfers

Without leaking everything, I also believe BetPanAm.com will be offering reduced juice betting to persuade customers to give them a try.

I can honestly recommend giving BetPanAm.com a try. I know I will.

[This message was edited by Prescription on July 28, 2003 at 10:35 AM.]
 

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Excellent read and summary.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Their amazing eating skills are surpassed only by their keen understanding of offshore sports betting! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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Thanks for sharing

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VERY COOL!!!
I can't wait to go to Panama.

Sounds like they have a great operation.
 

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GL. But I'll pass - I'll probably let a year or so go by before joining a brand-new book in a new country, guess I'm just a cautious kind of investor, would rather others test new waters before committing my money without personal knowledge. With the books I've already got, I see no reason for me to 'take the plunge' - nothing against Panama, just see no reason to get wet right now.
 

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Sting, I hear a rumor that MVP/Beverly Hills Bookie is having problems recruiting, what do you know about that??
 

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Good to read they use dollars. So can we safely assume this will not be the home of the famous "V-Chip"?
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informative article.........except for the part about "Panama would never let the U.S. dictate what would happen to its sportsbooks"


the sad reality is that as long as bookmakers have to do business outside the U.S.


they will never be TOTALLY safe from U.S. government intrusions....
 

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Nice article Shrink but I agree with Jazz on Panama. I'll let others test the water before I take the plunge.
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Prescription:
HERE COMES PANAMA
7/17/03 - TheShrink

Additionally, EVERY LICENSEE must post a $500,000 bond with the government to insure payment is available in case of a dispute that is upheld in favor of the player!
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Without commenting on anything else, anyone who has lived in a latin country knows once you give something to someone else you can expect never to see it again. This is not a bond.

As for regulations, well much like the weather...
 

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sounds like they have their shit together man. and with the people involved... betpanam is bound to be top notch.
 

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"This press release contains some forward-looking statements. We undertake no obligation to publicly update any forward-looking statement, whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise. Forward-looking statements in this document should be evaluated together with the many uncertainties that affect our business. Those uncertainties are discussed in the Company's unwritten rules."

Just Think it would Be safe to include a Statement.....Good Luck Betpanam....
 

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$ 500,000 BOND
plus buying equipment, computers, etc
funiture, setting up accounts with various services, (means putting up even more $$$)

hiring, and training staff, setting up and paying for toll free and regular service, dealing with the scam clients re: chargebacks, dealing with ahole processors, not paying,

weekly and monthly utility bills and payroll, and grease palms for whatever,

YEAH RIGHT
pan am is going to be the NEXT mecca gambling spot
give me a break,
oh what about the advertising budget,
easy 1 million plus to start up, oh, oh, plus the yearly 60k ha ha ha ha
come on now guys are you serious
give me a break, there are too many more other jurisdictions out there, to be fronting $500,000 and have THEM collect the interest, God knows if you see it again.
 

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Oh by the way SHRINK, you were wined dined and 69ed, come on now you know and I know,
give him a good show and have him come back and give a nice report hell spend 5k on him and with that report he returns and post the come back is a easy 500 % return on the 5k or so we spend on "entertaining him(or they))


ps, dont have anything PERSONAL against you SHRINK or the outfit in PanAM, but hey its the truth, just talking my mind and it was only BUSINESS that went down in PanAM, plus you having a good time
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Question

It was my understanding that no CREDIT books would be allowed into the country to do business only post up shops, I thought Legendz and BHB had substantial credit business and BetPanAm were also credit shops???? Or am I out to lunch on the rules and regs???
 

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Am I going to the right site? they're not up and running yet? this is what he site says?


For serious players only

This site is under construction

BetPanAm (soon to be)
 

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Just two clarifications.

Ask any international accountant and you will learn that Panama’s banking is among the safest and best in the world. Panama even uses the dollar as its main currency, not colognes or pesos!

Panama's bank system is indeed one of the most strictly regulated in the world. That doesn't necessarilly make it safe. Deloitte and Touche (one of the largest auditing firms in the world) ranks Panama in the bottom half of banking infrastructures in the Western Hemisphere as far as risk goes.

There has been talk about Panama refusing to stand up to the United States. Well, if any country is buckling under to U.S. demands right now, it is Costa Rica. There is no way Panama would allow the U.S. to dictate what will happen to its sports books. I believe Panama can police itself properly without any outside assistance from Uncle Sam.

That's absurd. Panama still relies heavilly on U.S. support and will bend over backwards to accomdate what "Uncle Sam" wants, especially dealing with offshore books doing business with customers that reside in the United States.
 

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About them listening to the "tapes" over disputes, the better the phone system (ie digital recording) the easier it is to modify the recording. You might be asking who is going to waste their time with that? That depends what the reward is.

As for Panama standing strong??? CR resently got their nuts stomped on. How well do you think Panama would put up with the same tactics? If the US leans them with threats that their banks will be black listed and they no longer get ANY US visas. How long do you think it will take for them to fold?? It's pretty easy, just claim you need full disclosure of all accounts to check for terrorist's money. What do you think it would do to their economy to lock them out of the world's banking economy? To take away visa's for any of their citizens?
 

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