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Twins -425???? WTF??

This is the biggest ML on a single game I have seen.
 

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Last year or the year before Pedro was like -500 or 600 maybe it was MORE then that
 

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The scary part is May is probably the Royals best pitcher, if it was anyone other than him or Greinke, the line may have been -600 or -700
 

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I remember early last year Pedro and the Unit were both -400 on the same day and they both lost.
 

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Did he win that game?<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Dante:
Last year or the year before Pedro was like -500 or 600 maybe it was MORE then that <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
 

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funny thing is santana is an ordinary scrub having a decent season. the bitch has an ERA over 3. the treat the kid like hes the second coming of god damn pedro martinez. hes got two pitches that work ok an 88 mph slider and a 92 mph fastball but the kid aint no randy jhonson. comical stuff. tune in, youll see what i mean. i know all the handicapping MLB guys they got alll these lengthy paragraphs everytime he pitches "he sucks he sucks" well. . .theyre right
 

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Actually Rob, Santana is young and has shone as a starter every opportunity he's had. He only started starting full time in the middle of last year and he got off to a slow start this year. Since the first two months, he's been lights out. He doesn't have the time of service other top starters have, but he's definitely top notch and calling him a scrub is a disservice.
 

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he sucks green doberman. he was a middle reliever for like two years and i remember that day game the d-rays lit him up like a loser with too much money trying to do xmas on his lawn. johan santana?! hes got as much heat as george bush in a ceremonial opener. i encourage everyone to call DTV and get the package to watch this dipwad and the stiff them tommorow by saying you oredered the package by mistake.

santana sucks!!
 

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starting early, rob??
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by RobFunk:
he sucks green doberman. he was a middle reliever for like two years and i remember that day game the d-rays lit him up like a loser with too much money trying to do xmas on his lawn. johan santana?! hes got as much heat as george bush in a ceremonial opener. i encourage everyone to call DTV and get the package to watch this dipwad and the stiff them tommorow by saying you oredered the package by mistake.

santana sucks!! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
 

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Johan Santana's numbers in his last 16 starts:

119.1 IP, 152 K's, 60 hits allowed, 0.70 WHIP. 1.66 era. Has given up more than 2 earned runs only once in that stretch, giving up 3 in a victory.
Has a record of 13-2 over that stretch, with one no decision (a Twins win).
Two losses were 1-2 and 0-2, CWS (Garland), DET (J.Johnson).

Pretty impressive numbers for an "ordinary" pitcher.
 

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you guys are silly! johan santana?!?! were talking about santana right?! not ace pitching not a guy with stuff not the game i love but johan santana. were talking about santana right?! and what are we talking about?! santana?! look man. i love the game as much as anyone, you know i play as hard as anyone. but santana?! with an ERA over 3?! were talking about santana man. just santana. and what are we talking about?! santana?! were talking about santana man.
 

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He was 24 at the start of the season, a part time starter first year, then promoted full-time in the middle of last year. Since then, he has had one bad stretch (this year, he lost 4 straight). Me thinks the funkster might have dropped a little dough on this. In the last calendar year he has been the premier pitcher in the major leagues.
Find me another pitcher with stats equivalent to him.

That being said I wouldn't lay -400 on Danny Almonte against a bunch of 8 year olds.
 

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stats?! his ERA is over 3 and he pitches ina bingo cage. were talking about johan santana. santana. you guys make it sound like he is in the elite or something. where are the K's?! where is the stuff?!
 

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i would rather lay -425 on DANTE in a softball game. at least DANTE is undefeated. but were talking about santana man. and what are we talking about?! santana?! man.
 

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you guy's???? you say, guy's, plural. i for one think that is WAY too much chalk

rob, chill, and have another drink while KC smacks his balls around
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by RobFunk:
stats?! his ERA is over 3 and he pitches ina bingo cage. were talking about johan santana. santana. you guys make it sound like he is in the elite or something. where are the K's?! where is the stuff?! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
 

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this line just shows how great carlos beltran is. .KC with beltran no way more than +275
 

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Rob the K's are there, 152 in his last 119 IP. I believe he leads the league last I checked. It's more a reflection of a top notch pitcher with a good team at home against a going nowhere team that is miserable on the road.
 

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In the American League,
Santana is 1st in K's, WHIP, K per 9ip, hits allowed(1.13 less per 9ip than the closest), and 1st in opp BA against (more than 25 points than anyone else).
He is second in ERA to Hudson.
 

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This year the biggest spreads for a pitcher at home against any random club would be:

1: a healthy Jason Schmidt
2: Santana
3: Schilling
4: Oswalt
5: Pedro
6: Mulder
 

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