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You see the books tell you a gutshot is some kind of bad hand that is a big dog and you'll go broke playing them...yadda yadda manyadda...
Anyway the pros know this is bullshit and you will see them making this play alot because they know the TRUE odds....which are now a very solid and PROVEN over close to 80 hands now FAV of 55-18. Thats right as hard as the poker writers may stress different the TRUE odds of calling my pair with ANY 2 cards remains a very good bet GUARANTEED to put you in the winners circle.
So next time you have that gutshot straight draw for your whole stack dont hesitate to push them in there....SHOW EM UR A PRO who knows the TRUE ODDS!!!!

PokerStars Game #31946270142: Tournament #187199607, $3+$0 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2009/08/22 23:07:56 ET
Table '187199607 2' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: crustystache (1500 in chips)
Seat 2: Colachito (14414 in chips)
Seat 3: allynlong (6955 in chips)
Seat 4: ETHAN314 (10016 in chips)
Seat 5: pitaoufmg (9200 in chips)
Seat 6: M@RT!N.,.SS. (2870 in chips)
Seat 7: PAT PIERSON (3630 in chips)
Seat 8: andistar89 (1750 in chips)
Seat 9: lenary (1815 in chips)
PAT PIERSON: posts small blind 25
andistar89: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to allynlong [2s 2c]
lenary: folds
crustystache has timed out
crustystache: folds
crustystache is sitting out
Colachito: calls 50
allynlong: calls 50
ETHAN314: raises 115 to 165
pitaoufmg: folds
crustystache has returned
M@RT!N.,.SS.: folds
PAT PIERSON: calls 140
andistar89: calls 115
Colachito: calls 115
allynlong: calls 115
*** FLOP *** [5s 2d 9s]
PAT PIERSON: bets 100
andistar89: folds
Colachito: folds
allynlong: raises 350 to 450
ETHAN314: raises 9401 to 9851 and is all-in
PAT PIERSON: folds
allynlong: calls 6340 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (3061) returned to ETHAN314
*** TURN *** [5s 2d 9s] [4d]
*** RIVER *** [5s 2d 9s 4d] [8d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
allynlong: shows [2s 2c] (three of a kind, Deuces)
ETHAN314: shows [Ah 3s] (a straight, Ace to Five)
ETHAN314 collected 14505 from pot
allynlong said, "very nicely rigged"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 14505 | Rake 0
Board [5s 2d 9s 4d 8d]
Seat 1: crustystache folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Colachito folded on the Flop
Seat 3: allynlong showed [2s 2c] and lost with three of a kind, Deuces
Seat 4: ETHAN314 showed [Ah 3s] and won (14505) with a straight, Ace to Five
 

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I should probably play more cash games...

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Yes, no way to get away from that preflop or postflop.

I am off PS b/c I saw so much more there than at FT, but you see it at all sites. It keeps the bad players coming back, but they usually do not get ITM
 

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I almost forgot about this 1....Watch them reach into my pocket and remove the money straight out. From 1st to out in 3 hands.....ah yes the memories...

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I got a million of em....lol

5 mins ago..

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I already see the setup coming. This was 3 mins before the last hand. Ill be posting my pair going down in flames again within 15 mins...Guaranteed!!

By the way...Anybody fold JJ here?? Ofcourse not....


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From the top first post, I think we should all be aware of low straights draws and high straight draws since there are people who play Ace rag and assume you either have a pocket pair lower than AA or top pair that caught the board.

Open ender straight draw is 4 outs, Open ender straight draw with Ace is 7 outs.

Also keep track of players who plays or not plays ace rags offsuit, ace rag suited, low pocket pairs and rags. Even if there are no straight draws and flush draws.

Well that's how I play.
 

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You are right ....Last night i open from UTG with JJ. blinds are small abd i just had AK, made it 3X and got 4 callers so this time i make like 5X....2callers. Flop comes 88A and i ck, theres a bet and a call and i fold.. Those 2 get allin and the 1st person has 8/10, the 2nd has A6. After A6 loses all his money he spends the next 5 mins calling 810 a donkey........WELL calling with A6 wasnt the brightest fucking thing u could do either buddy........LOL
 

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Win this hand im in the WCOOP 1 MILLION TODAY.....Its totally random.
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tage #1638894392: Holdem No Limit $2 - 2009-09-13 10:15:58 (ET)
Table: CORONA DR (Real Money) Seat #8 is the dealer
Seat 8 - RAM20INCH ($72 in chips)
Seat 9 - CARRS ($42.42 in chips)
Seat 1 - CONGOUIW ($91 in chips)
Seat 2 - UPAYFORMYWEED ($400.80 in chips)
Seat 3 - GWA68 ($144 in chips)
Seat 4 - VBCOACH1 ($395 in chips)
Seat 5 - ALLYNLONG ($154.50 in chips)
Seat 6 - SOCCPLAYER07 ($242.75 in chips)
Seat 7 - B_RABBIT ($293.50 in chips)
CARRS - Posts small blind $1
CONGOUIW - Posts big blind $2
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to ALLYNLONG [Qc Qd]
UPAYFORMYWEED - Folds
GWA68 - Folds
VBCOACH1 - Folds
ALLYNLONG - Raises $8 to $8
SOCCPLAYER07 - Folds
B_RABBIT - Folds
RAM20INCH - Folds
CARRS - Calls $7
CONGOUIW - Folds
*** FLOP *** [2d Ah Ac]
CARRS - Checks
ALLYNLONG - Bets $11
CARRS - Folds
ALLYNLONG - returned ($11) : not called
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ALLYNLONG - Does not show
ALLYNLONG Collects $16.60 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total Pot($18) | Rake ($0.90) | Jackpot Rake ($0.50)
Board [2d Ah Ac]
Seat 1: CONGOUIW (big blind) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 2: UPAYFORMYWEED Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 3: GWA68 Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 4: VBCOACH1 Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 5: ALLYNLONG collected Total ($16.60) HI:($16.60) [Does not show]
Seat 6: SOCCPLAYER07 Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 7: B_RABBIT Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 8: RAM20INCH (dealer) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 9: CARRS (small blind) Folded on the FLOP
 

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3 times in 10 hands. 1st it would never happen at Stars....and hasnt in 5 yrs. 2nd no way in hell they all 3 hold up at Stars...



tage #1638894392: Holdem No Limit $2 - 2009-09-13 10:15:58 (ET)
Table: CORONA DR (Real Money) Seat #8 is the dealer
Seat 8 - RAM20INCH ($72 in chips)
Seat 9 - CARRS ($42.42 in chips)
Seat 1 - CONGOUIW ($91 in chips)
Seat 2 - UPAYFORMYWEED ($400.80 in chips)
Seat 3 - GWA68 ($144 in chips)
Seat 4 - VBCOACH1 ($395 in chips)
Seat 5 - ALLYNLONG ($154.50 in chips)
Seat 6 - SOCCPLAYER07 ($242.75 in chips)
Seat 7 - B_RABBIT ($293.50 in chips)
CARRS - Posts small blind $1
CONGOUIW - Posts big blind $2
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to ALLYNLONG [Qc Qd]
UPAYFORMYWEED - Folds
GWA68 - Folds
VBCOACH1 - Folds
ALLYNLONG - Raises $8 to $8
SOCCPLAYER07 - Folds
B_RABBIT - Folds
RAM20INCH - Folds
CARRS - Calls $7
CONGOUIW - Folds
*** FLOP *** [2d Ah Ac]
CARRS - Checks
ALLYNLONG - Bets $11
CARRS - Folds
ALLYNLONG - returned ($11) : not called
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ALLYNLONG - Does not show
ALLYNLONG Collects $16.60 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total Pot($18) | Rake ($0.90) | Jackpot Rake ($0.50)
Board [2d Ah Ac]
Seat 1: CONGOUIW (big blind) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 2: UPAYFORMYWEED Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 3: GWA68 Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 4: VBCOACH1 Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 5: ALLYNLONG collected Total ($16.60) HI:($16.60) [Does not show]
Seat 6: SOCCPLAYER07 Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 7: B_RABBIT Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 8: RAM20INCH (dealer) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 9: CARRS (small blind) Folded on the FLOP



Stage #1638897813: Holdem No Limit $2 - 2009-09-13 10:19:24 (ET)
Table: CORONA DR (Real Money) Seat #4 is the dealer
Seat 4 - VBCOACH1 ($396.10 in chips)
Seat 5 - ALLYNLONG ($161.10 in chips)
Seat 6 - SOCCPLAYER07 ($240.75 in chips)
Seat 7 - B_RABBIT ($293.50 in chips)
Seat 8 - RAM20INCH ($75 in chips)
Seat 9 - CARRS ($35.42 in chips)
Seat 1 - CONGOUIW ($84 in chips)
Seat 2 - UPAYFORMYWEED ($396.80 in chips)
Seat 3 - GWA68 ($150 in chips)
ALLYNLONG - Posts small blind $1
SOCCPLAYER07 - Posts big blind $2
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to ALLYNLONG [Qs Qc]
B_RABBIT - Calls $2
RAM20INCH - Calls $2
CARRS - All-In(Raise) $35.42 to $35.42
CONGOUIW - Folds
UPAYFORMYWEED - Folds
GWA68 - Folds
VBCOACH1 - Calls $35.42
ALLYNLONG - Raises $73.34 to $74.34
SOCCPLAYER07 - Folds
B_RABBIT - Folds
RAM20INCH - Folds
VBCOACH1 - Calls $38.92
*** FLOP *** [3h 9h 7d]
ALLYNLONG - All-In $86.76
VBCOACH1 - Calls $86.76
*** TURN *** [3h 9h 7d] [10s]
*** RIVER *** [3h 9h 7d 10s] [7c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
VBCOACH1 - Shows [Jh Jd] (Two Pair, jacks and sevens)
ALLYNLONG - Shows [Qs Qc] (Two Pair, queens and sevens)
CARRS - Shows [8d Qd] (One pair, sevens)
ALLYNLONG Collects $249.29 from side pot-1
ALLYNLONG Collects $110.83 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total Pot($363.62:$112.26,$251.36) | Rake ($3:$0.93,$2.07) | Jackpot Rake ($0.50:$0.50,$0)
Board [3h 9h 7d 10s 7c]
Seat 1: CONGOUIW Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 2: UPAYFORMYWEED Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 3: GWA68 Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 4: VBCOACH1 (dealer) HI:lost with Two Pair, jacks and sevens [Jh Jd - P:Jh,P:Jd,B:7d,B:7c,B:10s]
Seat 5: ALLYNLONG (small blind) won Total ($360.12) All-In HI:($360.12) with Two Pair, queens and sevens [Qs Qc - P:Qs,P:Qc,B:7d,B:7c,B:10s]
Seat 6: SOCCPLAYER07 (big blind) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 7: B_RABBIT Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 8: RAM20INCH Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 9: CARRS HI:lost with One pair, sevens [8d Qd - B:7d,B:7c,P:Qd,B:10s,B:9h]



Stage #1638891765: Holdem No Limit $2 - 2009-09-13 10:13:19 (ET)
Table: CORONA DR (Real Money) Seat #5 is the dealer
Seat 5 - ALLYNLONG ($131.50 in chips)
Seat 6 - SOCCPLAYER07 ($202.20 in chips)
Seat 7 - B_RABBIT ($296.50 in chips)
Seat 8 - RAM20INCH ($75 in chips)
Seat 9 - CARRS ($63.42 in chips)
Seat 1 - CONGOUIW ($107 in chips)
Seat 2 - UPAYFORMYWEED ($400.80 in chips)
Seat 3 - GWA68 ($172.75 in chips)
Seat 4 - VBCOACH1 ($395 in chips)
SOCCPLAYER07 - Posts small blind $1
B_RABBIT - Posts big blind $2
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to ALLYNLONG [Qc Qh]
RAM20INCH - Folds
CARRS - Folds
CONGOUIW - Calls $2
UPAYFORMYWEED - Folds
GWA68 - Calls $2
VBCOACH1 - Folds
ALLYNLONG - Raises $11 to $11
SOCCPLAYER07 - Folds
B_RABBIT - Folds
CONGOUIW - Folds
GWA68 - Calls $9
*** FLOP *** [4s 9h 10d]
GWA68 - Bets $6
ALLYNLONG - Raises $24.50 to $24.50
GWA68 - Calls $18.50
*** TURN *** [4s 9h 10d] [Ah]
GWA68 - Checks
ALLYNLONG - Bets $30
GWA68 - Folds
ALLYNLONG - returned ($30) : not called
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ALLYNLONG - Does not show
ALLYNLONG Collects $72.50 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total Pot($76) | Rake ($3) | Jackpot Rake ($0.50)
Board [4s 9h 10d Ah]
Seat 1: CONGOUIW Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 2: UPAYFORMYWEED Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 3: GWA68 Folded on the TURN
Seat 4: VBCOACH1 Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 5: ALLYNLONG (dealer) collected Total ($72.50) HI:($72.50) [Does not show]
Seat 6: SOCCPLAYER07 (small blind) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 7: B_RABBIT (big blind) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 8: RAM20INCH Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 9: CARRS Folded on the POCKET CARDS
 

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This would be absolutely hilarious if Stars wasnt so rigged......

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I'll be in the Bar..With my head on the Bar
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It never ends i tell ya.. The guy who started this run by calling me on the bubble of a $330 MTT with AJ mthrfckn os is playing in the WCOOP event that i got screwed out of a seat in right now. 75 left he's already guaranteed over 4K if he's the next 1 out.....

I think i might finally have this all figured out though. Some member of my ex-wifes family died and went to heaven....Just at the exact same moment they had an opening for a Poker God........Its the only plausible explanantion....
 

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