Has sharp money surpassed square money?

[cacheman]

With so many favorites winning in college football and the NFL, are the linesmakers targeting sharp money? For example, let's say that globally there is a total of $5 billion bet on CFB and the NFL today. Perhaps the linesmakers are estimating that $3-4 billion is sharp money and setting the lines accordingly.

Also, MGM-Mirage, Pinnacle, etc... are under no obligation to make public the amount bet on the Giants-Eagles game tonight. The obvious square (public) bet is Giants +3. Thus, perhaps the public is on the Giants, but it only totals $100 million globally. While the sharp money is on the Eagles -2 & -2.5, but totals $300 million.

Giants win easily 31-17 and the public parties with their Ravens and Giants winnings, while sharps help the books stay in business during a tough global economy.

 

[lifexpired]

agree that it is most applicable for NFL, 'sharps' go for the bait on pseudo steam like houston this week, browns last week, etc.

 

[cacheman]

watch the money:youmad:

 

[Rude]

Question .... As I've never seen it mentioned before

Have Sqaures and Sharps Ever been on the same play ?

 

[cacheman]

paths cross...people mingle...I'm sure maybe once or twice

 

[FOOLEDBYRANDOMNESS]

cache I think we need to discuss this

 

[Rude]

paths cross...people mingle...I'm sure maybe once or twice

What's considered a "Sharp Play" and "Sqaure Play" ?

Or is the "Square Play" just the opppsite ?

 

[Jetplane]

With so many favorites winning in college football and the NFL, are the linesmakers targeting sharp money? For example, let's say that globally there is a total of $5 billion bet on CFB and the NFL today. Perhaps the linesmakers are estimating that $3-4 billion is sharp money and setting the lines accordingly.

Also, MGM-Mirage, Pinnacle, etc... are under no obligation to make public the amount bet on the Giants-Eagles game tonight. The obvious square (public) bet is Giants +3. Thus, perhaps the public is on the Giants, but it only totals $100 million globally. While the sharp money is on the Eagles -2 & -2.5, but totals $300 million.

Giants win easily 31-17 and the public parties with their Ravens and Giants winnings, while sharps help the books stay in business during a tough global economy.

I would think that the square bet was PHILLY >:X but i only leaned giants, didn't play it.

 

[Rude]

I would think that the square bet was PHILLY >:X but i only leaned giants, didn't play it.

Agree .. but like I said in another thread ... people see games, situations in different ways.

 

[RonMexico]

Question .... As I've never seen it mentioned before

Have Sqaures and Sharps Ever been on the same play ?

I live in Vegas and I can't stand these 2 phrases it is just silly when people start thinking this way it like taking dogs is always the sharper play not all of the time......... they out think there own play if you know your stuff and feel the line is ok to you then play it I never trust myself living hear I hear to much of this and I always talk myself out of plays that I like ................I loved the giants today but I thought so many sharps were on philly and I loved the ravens if those are square plays they won so does it really matter the only thing that matters is winners I think the new generation of cappers think WAY TO MUCH to much info with the internet and all of these forums it is overwhelming

 

[Rude]

I live in Vegas and I can't stand these 2 phrases it is just silly when people start thinking this way it like taking dogs is always the sharper play not all of the time......... they out think there own play if you know your stuff and feel the line is ok to you then play it I never trust myself living hear I hear to much of this and I always talk myself out of plays that I like ................I loved the giants today but I thought so many sharps were on philly and I loved the ravens if those are square plays they won so does it really matter the only thing that matters is winners I think the new generation of cappers think WAY TO MUCH to much info with the internet and all of these forums it is overwhelming

I could not have said it better myself. It comes back to my original question ..... Who decides if a player is a "Sharp" or "Square" ?

If you like a play, and everyone is on the other side are you the square or the sharp ?

I guess it get's decided after the final whistle to see which one you really are.

LOL! Most over used words in sports wagering .. Sharps and Squares.

 

[Betallsports]

Just an FWI, Squares Win Too !

Joe Public can have winning Days, Weeks, etc. But in the Long run, The Sharps will Win more !

Also, Sharp Plays do Not Always mean Dogs Only !! IMO

A Fav can be a Sharp play as well.

 

[Jetplane]

I live in Vegas and I can't stand these 2 phrases it is just silly when people start thinking this way it like taking dogs is always the sharper play not all of the time......... they out think there own play if you know your stuff and feel the line is ok to you then play it I never trust myself living hear I hear to much of this and I always talk myself out of plays that I like ................I loved the giants today but I thought so many sharps were on philly and I loved the ravens if those are square plays they won so does it really matter the only thing that matters is winners I think the new generation of cappers think WAY TO MUCH to much info with the internet and all of these forums it is overwhelming

For sure dude... I bet what I like... but i do get talked out of things. Not because i think it's a "square" play but because other good bettors tell me to lay off. Sometimes they're right, sometimes they're wrong--but if i don't bet--i can't lose.

People use the 2 terms too frequent now... the term public should be "retarded" and the term square should be regarded as "you have down syndrome" imo. they mean basically the same thing but the context is different. people just say square cuz they wanna flex on someone. oh well.

 

[Rude]

Just an FWI, Squares Win Too !

Joe Public can have winning Days, Weeks, etc. But in the Long run, The Sharps will Win more !

Also, Sharp Plays do Not Always mean Dogs Only !! IMO

A Fav can be a Sharp play as well.

So true .... Now the next question is .... How long is "In the long run ?"

1 year, 3 years, 5+ years ?

Can a winning Square bettor over the long run, not be considered a sharp player ?

A square better who picks his spots winning over 60% of his plays over 3+ years betting $100, is he still considered a square ?

Sharps ... Squares ... who gives a shit. The player with the winning pick is the guy I want to be. :youmad:

 

[soswalter]

I love how this thread formed the first Sunday in five weeks that the books lost money in the NFL.

 

[cacheman]

Cmon...square plays are simply about immediate perception...what's your immediate perception regarding the stock market...Osama bin Laden...Los Angeles Lakers...gas prices...and one of my favorites, the word "government", etc...

 

[Jetplane]

Osama: hater
Lakers: Kobe
Gas: going down
government: hippocrits and a sham

>

I guess sharps would say Osama is good for us.

 

[Betallsports]

So true .... Now the next question is .... How long is "In the long run ?"

1 year, 3 years, 5+ years ?

Can a winning Square bettor over the long run, not be considered a sharp player ?

A square better who picks his spots winning over 60% of his plays over 3+ years betting $100, is he still considered a square ?

Sharps ... Squares ... who gives a shit. The player with the winning pick is the guy I want to be. :youmad:

LOL

About 10 years ago I would have said, NO WAY can a Square become a Sharp.
But I happen to know a person, that 10 years ago..He was Joe Public

But Joe Public with a lot of Money. He started to hang with a bunch of Sharps, and picked up what the sharps were doing.

He Now Bets on avg. $50K a game.

Anyway, The reason I say that in the Long Run a Sharp will Win MORE.
Is most Sharps are Betting big Bucks ! and because of that, That is the answer to that question.

A Square is betting $25- $200 a game, he might win 5 Games in the day.
But the Sharp is Picking his spots, maybe he wins 3 games
But at $100K a pop, he just won $300K on the day.

Like say Today, Let's say the Sharps were on , Bears, Vikings, Det, Hou and Philly. That's 5 games that they Lost on today.

But ! They Won on Atl, Jets, Sea, and Car.

Now they Didn't Win overall, but they didn't lose their Shirt either.
Plus, we don't know Which Sharps were on Which games.

How about this, I have a Guy that is a Sharp. And he Bet $60K on NE today. That's a Square play, but it won.

If you want to have a Winning chance, you are Better off betting what the Sharps Bet.

Again, Like I said before. Squares can, and Will have Winning Days weeks or Years. But take the last 10 Years, and The Sharp has won more then the Square.

 

[Betallsports]

Forget to add, Not all square bet $25-200

There are square that bet $500 Plus a game

 

[soswalter]

Sharps would be on the Raiders and Rams today