I've never considered myself an anti-semite, but after 911, I'll always consider an Arab to be guilty until proven innocent.
Given that all of the terrorists that attacked the United States on 911 were semites, can you blame any American for acts of self preservation such as profiling?
Given that all of the terrorists that attacked the United States on 911 were semites, can you blame any American for acts of self preservation such as profiling?
Some of my comments on this board would seem to be anti-semitic.....
...if one was to look at my opinion of cutting off all the foreign aid to Israel....at this point I should clarify my viewpoint if there are those out there who feel this is anti-semitic....
I feel that all the foreign aid money sent out by the US is basically wasted money, being spent in nations all over the globe when in light of the fact that our own national debt is spiraling out of control and the countries given the aid forget where it came from a short time after it is soaked up into thier own problems.......that it should be spent in the USA to fix the problems incountry.
Why is it people talk about teachers being underpaid and state budgets making cuts because thier funds are so limited, and they need a few million to make ends meet, yet there is enough money every year to send billions of it away to foreign countries all over the globe?
When I talk about cutting the foreign aid to Israel, I'm not being anti-semitic. I'm saying ALL THE FOREIGN AID SHOULD BE ELIMINATED....whether it be to Israel, Africa, USSR, you name it,.....end it, and start using the US taxdollar on US taxpayers.
Find a way to carve out and separate that lucrative pension plan that our leaders voted in for themselves that pays them 100% of thier salary upon retirement, and tell them if they want to just donate money to other countries then it's coming out of thier pension fund....I'm guessing like everything else, if they had to pay for this out of thier own pocket it wouldn't leave the country.
Frankly they need to be put on social security, that needs straightening out and would happen overnight if the higher-ups found out that was thier retirement plan.
...if one was to look at my opinion of cutting off all the foreign aid to Israel....at this point I should clarify my viewpoint if there are those out there who feel this is anti-semitic....
I feel that all the foreign aid money sent out by the US is basically wasted money, being spent in nations all over the globe when in light of the fact that our own national debt is spiraling out of control and the countries given the aid forget where it came from a short time after it is soaked up into thier own problems.......that it should be spent in the USA to fix the problems incountry.
Why is it people talk about teachers being underpaid and state budgets making cuts because thier funds are so limited, and they need a few million to make ends meet, yet there is enough money every year to send billions of it away to foreign countries all over the globe?
When I talk about cutting the foreign aid to Israel, I'm not being anti-semitic. I'm saying ALL THE FOREIGN AID SHOULD BE ELIMINATED....whether it be to Israel, Africa, USSR, you name it,.....end it, and start using the US taxdollar on US taxpayers.
Find a way to carve out and separate that lucrative pension plan that our leaders voted in for themselves that pays them 100% of thier salary upon retirement, and tell them if they want to just donate money to other countries then it's coming out of thier pension fund....I'm guessing like everything else, if they had to pay for this out of thier own pocket it wouldn't leave the country.
Frankly they need to be put on social security, that needs straightening out and would happen overnight if the higher-ups found out that was thier retirement plan.
for me it is white folk... cant trust em as far as you can throw them...
Ill never trust one in my life... especially ones with stupid muther fucki n names like bblight?!
I mean what kind of an idiot would call themselves bblight?!
I dumb fucking southern honkie with a sheet over his head?
one group or another... Irish, Japanese, now of course the ARAB's forget about the fact that there are millions of them scatered throughout the world... you will blame all of them for the act of some terrorists?
Ignorant...
Was the Oklahoma city bomber Arab, what about the Unibomber? what about Waco Texes?
geesh... go sniff some gasoline
Ill never trust one in my life... especially ones with stupid muther fucki n names like bblight?!
I mean what kind of an idiot would call themselves bblight?!
I dumb fucking southern honkie with a sheet over his head?
Ignorant...
Was the Oklahoma city bomber Arab, what about the Unibomber? what about Waco Texes?
geesh... go sniff some gasoline
It is neither bigotry nor anti-semitism to point out that the Jews not only represent a different religion than Christians but also a different race. The race part is usually swept under the rug because of today's politically correct environment where it is slowly becoming taboo to even suggest that humans are divided into different races.
Different races of people have different histories and fundamentally different genes because of the different environments they lived in for so many centuries. It stands to reason, then, that they have different values and, therefore, different goals and aims in the world. Of course this is all changing quickly with inter-breeding and simply from different races living side-by-side, something that is fairly new on the evolutionary timescale.
Still, marked differences between races exist today and because of war threats it is unclear whether these differences will ever be eliminated.
I am offended when an intelligent person pretends there are no differences between races. I am even more offended when the anti-semite label is used on someone who does little more than point out these differences. Jews have offended me on numerous occasions on both of these points while Christians and Muslims have only very rarely done so. My sample size is statistically significant so by generally accepted scientific principles my observations can be considered meaningful.
I think anyone who is annoyed by political correctness should think about these points and consider the histories of the various races as well as the proportions of the various races represented in the media. Also consider how powerful the media is in defining what is politically correct and what isn't. An objective thinker can then draw his own conclusions.
Different races of people have different histories and fundamentally different genes because of the different environments they lived in for so many centuries. It stands to reason, then, that they have different values and, therefore, different goals and aims in the world. Of course this is all changing quickly with inter-breeding and simply from different races living side-by-side, something that is fairly new on the evolutionary timescale.
Still, marked differences between races exist today and because of war threats it is unclear whether these differences will ever be eliminated.
I am offended when an intelligent person pretends there are no differences between races. I am even more offended when the anti-semite label is used on someone who does little more than point out these differences. Jews have offended me on numerous occasions on both of these points while Christians and Muslims have only very rarely done so. My sample size is statistically significant so by generally accepted scientific principles my observations can be considered meaningful.
I think anyone who is annoyed by political correctness should think about these points and consider the histories of the various races as well as the proportions of the various races represented in the media. Also consider how powerful the media is in defining what is politically correct and what isn't. An objective thinker can then draw his own conclusions.
Poopsicle said <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> I don't trust any white man who drives a Uhaul, lives alone, lives with his mother, has an emaculately clean house, doesn't drink, doesn't like sports, has a vertical over 24 in, and believes the US is a county of Christians.
I would much rather kneecap that individual than meet them. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
sportssavant said <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> for me it is white folk... cant trust em as far as you can throw them... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Daryl said <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>It is neither bigotry nor anti-semitism to point out that the Jews not only represent a different religion than Christians but also a different race. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
And then Wil appears to condone it by saying <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> SS - bigotry is alive and well and living in the US. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Please forgive me for my assumptions, but will this meeting of the KKK pkease come to order! What a bunch of self righteous bigots. You guys should be wearing swastikas and marching in lock step.
And Wil, you're the biggest hypocrite of them all by your supportive comments.
I would much rather kneecap that individual than meet them. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
sportssavant said <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> for me it is white folk... cant trust em as far as you can throw them... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Daryl said <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>It is neither bigotry nor anti-semitism to point out that the Jews not only represent a different religion than Christians but also a different race. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
And then Wil appears to condone it by saying <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> SS - bigotry is alive and well and living in the US. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Please forgive me for my assumptions, but will this meeting of the KKK pkease come to order! What a bunch of self righteous bigots. You guys should be wearing swastikas and marching in lock step.
And Wil, you're the biggest hypocrite of them all by your supportive comments.
bblight....I think you're drawing selective quotes from these postings and not looking at the overall trait that these are pretty much made in a different tone, one the like of sarcasm or of that nature....
I think DP is merely stating his own personal experiences with certain groups....
How does your first post in this thread relate to the quotes you dragged from the others, listed above?
I think DP is merely stating his own personal experiences with certain groups....
How does your first post in this thread relate to the quotes you dragged from the others, listed above?
Marco -
If I'm getting on an airplane, and there are young arab looking young men getting on the same aircraft, until I know for sure that their intentions are not to hijack the plane and crash it into a building, I'll keep an eye on them. If a young Arab has his wife and kids with him, then I won't worry about him. To me, it's a matter of self preservation.
I'm not saying that Arabs should be denied their rights, especially if they're Americans, and I'm not saying profiling is always justified; it could lead to more profiling for more "groups"; I'm just saying that in some situations such as boarding airplanes, I'd feel a lot better if there was a limited level of profiling.
As for my post, maybe I quoted them out of context, but I didn't see it that way, and I still don't.
Thay sounded like racist, bigoted statements to me.
If I'm getting on an airplane, and there are young arab looking young men getting on the same aircraft, until I know for sure that their intentions are not to hijack the plane and crash it into a building, I'll keep an eye on them. If a young Arab has his wife and kids with him, then I won't worry about him. To me, it's a matter of self preservation.
I'm not saying that Arabs should be denied their rights, especially if they're Americans, and I'm not saying profiling is always justified; it could lead to more profiling for more "groups"; I'm just saying that in some situations such as boarding airplanes, I'd feel a lot better if there was a limited level of profiling.
As for my post, maybe I quoted them out of context, but I didn't see it that way, and I still don't.
Thay sounded like racist, bigoted statements to me.
bblight,
I understand you cannot control your emotions,
It is OK to feel fear in this situation... after all your country has been terrorized as of late...
It is when you 'spew' idiotic statements that all arabs are 'guilty till proven innocent' that you lose all credibility my friend. What about the doctors, lawyers, convenience store owners, taxi drivers... all those who have the same dreams & hopes as you for their families & thier future.
If one of them gets charged with something they should be guilty beofre innocent based on their skin?
come on now!! be a man... admit it was a wrong statement made out of fear. Back during the 2nd world war all of AMerica was afraid of the Japanese...(canada aswell) horrible crimes were committed against the Japanese... Time taught us that this was WRONG. Now you are proposing making the same mistake again? Have you not learned from History? WOuld you like all ARABS to be rounded up in the USA like it was done with the Japanese during the 2nd world war?
Please sir... be a man... admit it was a ridiculous comment said in the heat of the moment... & I will offer you some respect...
Continue to spew out this type of racism... & you will be labelled an 'ignorant' the choice is yours..
BTW, I am an ARAB, I work 60 hours a week & pay tons of Taxes... I donate my time at the SPCA every week to help animals...
My father (also an ARAB) devoted his entire life working for the Canadian government in development... helping the poor & underprivelaged in Canada & abroad....
Id like to see you tell me to my face & my fathers face that becauz of the color of our SKin that if we were charged with something we should be considered 'guilty till proven innocent'.
Be a man!!! admit you erred in your comments... & we can move... OR... BE a mouse...stand by them... hide under your sheet.... & you will be exposed for the biggot that you are.
I understand you cannot control your emotions,
It is OK to feel fear in this situation... after all your country has been terrorized as of late...
It is when you 'spew' idiotic statements that all arabs are 'guilty till proven innocent' that you lose all credibility my friend. What about the doctors, lawyers, convenience store owners, taxi drivers... all those who have the same dreams & hopes as you for their families & thier future.
If one of them gets charged with something they should be guilty beofre innocent based on their skin?
come on now!! be a man... admit it was a wrong statement made out of fear. Back during the 2nd world war all of AMerica was afraid of the Japanese...(canada aswell) horrible crimes were committed against the Japanese... Time taught us that this was WRONG. Now you are proposing making the same mistake again? Have you not learned from History? WOuld you like all ARABS to be rounded up in the USA like it was done with the Japanese during the 2nd world war?
Please sir... be a man... admit it was a ridiculous comment said in the heat of the moment... & I will offer you some respect...
Continue to spew out this type of racism... & you will be labelled an 'ignorant' the choice is yours..
BTW, I am an ARAB, I work 60 hours a week & pay tons of Taxes... I donate my time at the SPCA every week to help animals...
My father (also an ARAB) devoted his entire life working for the Canadian government in development... helping the poor & underprivelaged in Canada & abroad....
Id like to see you tell me to my face & my fathers face that becauz of the color of our SKin that if we were charged with something we should be considered 'guilty till proven innocent'.
Be a man!!! admit you erred in your comments... & we can move... OR... BE a mouse...stand by them... hide under your sheet.... & you will be exposed for the biggot that you are.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>It stands to reason, then, that they have different values and, therefore, different goals and aims in the world. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
ridiculous,
all books of religion, all people accross the planet have the same 'CORE VALUES'.
THere is no difference in the CORE message in the Bible, vs the Quran vs any other book.
ridiculous,
all books of religion, all people accross the planet have the same 'CORE VALUES'.
THere is no difference in the CORE message in the Bible, vs the Quran vs any other book.
SS - please go back and reread my posts. I originally said, <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> after 911, I'll always consider an Arab to be guilty until proven innocent. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>.
Then I clarified my position by saying <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> If I'm getting on an airplane, and there are young arab looking young men getting on the same aircraft, until I know for sure that their intentions are not to hijack the plane and crash it into a building, I'll keep an eye on them. If a young Arab has his wife and kids with him, then I won't worry about him. To me, it's a matter of self preservation. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
There's nothing wrong with fear, I've been afraid many times in my life, for many reasons. I don't want to be blown out of the air for a terrorist to make somne stupiod statement.
And while the pot is calling the kettle black, didn't you say <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> for me it is white folk... cant trust em as far as you can throw them... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Maybe you didn't mean it exactly that way, but you did say it. Do you hate and fear white people that much?
PS - not that it means anything, but my wife of 31 years is from originally from Tunisia.
Then I clarified my position by saying <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> If I'm getting on an airplane, and there are young arab looking young men getting on the same aircraft, until I know for sure that their intentions are not to hijack the plane and crash it into a building, I'll keep an eye on them. If a young Arab has his wife and kids with him, then I won't worry about him. To me, it's a matter of self preservation. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
There's nothing wrong with fear, I've been afraid many times in my life, for many reasons. I don't want to be blown out of the air for a terrorist to make somne stupiod statement.
And while the pot is calling the kettle black, didn't you say <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> for me it is white folk... cant trust em as far as you can throw them... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Maybe you didn't mean it exactly that way, but you did say it. Do you hate and fear white people that much?
PS - not that it means anything, but my wife of 31 years is from originally from Tunisia.
what I said was clearly & obviously 'SARCASM'... nothing more & to present it as such is WEAK. My friends are practically all WHITE aswell as my FIANCEE. (My Mother is also white).
what if I am walking down the street of an all black neighbourhood & a car playing RAP with a bunch of black guys around it is quite intimidating & I have to walk right by them. SHould they all be "Guilty till innocent?" should the police have the right to search them becauz of movies about gangs & sterortypes all over the place? Are you suggesting that my fear of the blacks overrides their right to be 'innocent till proven guilty'. Be careful bblight, what you are arguing is very dangerous inded & could turn around one day & be directed against you & yours....
What if Tunisia one day became a huge threat to the US.... should we round up all the Tunisian's? Should your wife be taken aside & strip searched every time she is travelling due to her ethnicity... what if her father & brother are flying here to visit it her for her wedding? should they be treated 'guilty till innocent'?
PLEASE... I IMPLORE you... re think what it is that you are saying... YES we must be more careful... YES... we must take more pre-cautions... BUT... NO... we cannot stoop to the level of profiling the bad guy of the day (irish, japanese, blacks, ARABS, & many many more....) HISTORY, has taught us that this is a mistake....
I dont know if you know but in Quebec Canada there was a terrorist group that was for the Seperation of Quebec that kidnammed a few people. they were called the FLQ.... They kidnapped a few politicians...
The Canadian government became so petrified that they declared the 'WAR MEASURES ACT' & stripped the rights of all Canadian Citizens. Known Seperatists were dragged from their home & held in Jail for weeks without lawyers & trials... (an example of this today is what is happening in CUBA at the guantanamo bay Prison). Musicians, Lawyers etc etc etc were as you say "GUILTY TILL PROVEN INNOCENT". It was horrible, French Canadians were treated as Animals & suffered for their political beleifs when it was only a small handful (about 15 people) who were guilty of the terrorist acts..... IT is very interesting... I wrote alot about it in University... You shoud read about it... Remember... "THEY WERE WHITE". Could happen to you & yours one day bblight...
I ask that you simply re-consider your position my friend. As for some of the others here posting in the Politics Forums... Like Darryl Parsons spewing his hate that we are all different due to the color of our SKINS & failing to re-alize that we all have the same CORE values... I am afraid that for guys like him all is lost...
what if I am walking down the street of an all black neighbourhood & a car playing RAP with a bunch of black guys around it is quite intimidating & I have to walk right by them. SHould they all be "Guilty till innocent?" should the police have the right to search them becauz of movies about gangs & sterortypes all over the place? Are you suggesting that my fear of the blacks overrides their right to be 'innocent till proven guilty'. Be careful bblight, what you are arguing is very dangerous inded & could turn around one day & be directed against you & yours....
What if Tunisia one day became a huge threat to the US.... should we round up all the Tunisian's? Should your wife be taken aside & strip searched every time she is travelling due to her ethnicity... what if her father & brother are flying here to visit it her for her wedding? should they be treated 'guilty till innocent'?
PLEASE... I IMPLORE you... re think what it is that you are saying... YES we must be more careful... YES... we must take more pre-cautions... BUT... NO... we cannot stoop to the level of profiling the bad guy of the day (irish, japanese, blacks, ARABS, & many many more....) HISTORY, has taught us that this is a mistake....
I dont know if you know but in Quebec Canada there was a terrorist group that was for the Seperation of Quebec that kidnammed a few people. they were called the FLQ.... They kidnapped a few politicians...
The Canadian government became so petrified that they declared the 'WAR MEASURES ACT' & stripped the rights of all Canadian Citizens. Known Seperatists were dragged from their home & held in Jail for weeks without lawyers & trials... (an example of this today is what is happening in CUBA at the guantanamo bay Prison). Musicians, Lawyers etc etc etc were as you say "GUILTY TILL PROVEN INNOCENT". It was horrible, French Canadians were treated as Animals & suffered for their political beleifs when it was only a small handful (about 15 people) who were guilty of the terrorist acts..... IT is very interesting... I wrote alot about it in University... You shoud read about it... Remember... "THEY WERE WHITE". Could happen to you & yours one day bblight...
I ask that you simply re-consider your position my friend. As for some of the others here posting in the Politics Forums... Like Darryl Parsons spewing his hate that we are all different due to the color of our SKINS & failing to re-alize that we all have the same CORE values... I am afraid that for guys like him all is lost...
