hall of fame game

[panther]

qb rotation

kc

trent green 1 qt. todd collins(vet) till half.
johathan quinn 3qt and marc dunn mop up(I cannot even find this guy on the roster)

green bay

farve 10-15 plays doug pederson till half.
greig nall and akilli smith will split 2nd half

interesting that smith will play last.

both teams are soild on 2nd team offence

here is where I found the diff.

while green bay has two rookies on the 2nd team it looks solid

on the kc defence the 2nd team only list 5 players with 2 of them being starters on 1 st team as backups.

also the 2nd team mlb has no 1st team player listed

what you will see on the feild after the 1st team def is done is a bunch of rookies and free agents thrown together just to elv them.

green bays offence should have a feild day against this.

add the fact that (vet)akilli smith will be playing the 4 th qt at qb.

green bay will be missing 2 starting wr but that will not matter much as the vet 2nd team wr would only be seeing 10-15 more plays

good luck

panther

[This message was edited by panther on August 03, 2003 at 04:07 PM.]

 

[panther]

preseason 1-0

gb+1.5

good luck

panther

 

[bblight]

I bet GB - a month ago at -1.5; I was thinking the line would move the other way - whatsa matta with me - I shoulda waited to pull the trigger.
I still think that GB will win su.
Time will tell, but I feel very good that I'm on your side on this one.

Good luck!

 

[drunkguy]

great write up man. Good luck tomorrow night.

 

[SUORANGEMEN75]

I will roll with you this time panther...

 

[The Guesser]

4th String KC QB is David Priestley. Marc Dunn was cut 2 Months ago when they signed Priestley out of NFLE.
Also, here is KC 2nd String D
DE- Stills (Vet)
DE- Truluck (Vet)
DT- Ransom (Vet)
DT- Downing (Vet)
OLB- Caver (Vet)
OLB- Atkins (Vet)
MLB- Beisel (Vet)
CB- McLeon (Vet)
CB- Harris (Vet)
S- Finley(Vet)
S- Harts (Vet)
You've got to get to 3rd string D before you get to the Rookies and FA's.
No opinion on game, Good luck on your pick.

[This message was edited by The Guesser on August 03, 2003 at 07:33 PM.]

 

[panther]

guesser

look at www.nfl.com

deepth charts

pull up kc cheifs

where did you get your info??

thanks

panther

 

[panther]

plus

who will be starting in front of beisel at mlb

thanks again

panther

 

[The Guesser]

I follow the Chiefs and read every News article about them. Starting MLB is Mazlowski. The guy who'll probably win the back-up MLB spot is Rookie Mitchell, but he's out tomorrow night. NFL.com is often outdated on individual teams. Official team websites and Local Newspapers have the best info.
That NFL.com depth chart looks like it was from mid season last year. Doesn't even have Ryan Sims listed at starting DT, doesn't have OLB Shawn Barber, still has Mazlowski on the outside, doesn't list Vonnie Holliday, dfoesn't list any Rookies. Definitely bad info from there.

 

[panther]

guesser

that deepth chart came from the offical web site via transfer from nfl .com


I do not dought you are saying as a fan. and will reveiw the game again.

Iam a fan of no team just of the game at all levels

a bigger fan of makeing money

thanks for your help

panther

 

[The Guesser]

The Depth chart on kcchiefs.com is the accurtate one. NFL.com just hasn't updated from mid 2002. I'm also a fan of making $$$, and NEVER let my rooting affect my betting, which is why I'm passing on the game tommorrow, and only bet The Chiefs when the situation or #'s favors them. I do think having Akilli Smith as the 4th Quarter QB, vs the Chiefs 4th Quarter D is a big advantage for GB tommorrow. Good luck.

 

[panther]

ok

stills de 4 year w va
truluck de 2 year cortland ny
ranson dt 6 year cinni (listed as a nose guard)
downing dt 3 year syracuse(listed as a nose guard)
carver olb 3 year ark
atkins olb 5 year ucla
beisel mlb 3 year kanas st
mccleon cb 7 year clemson (FREE AGENT)
harris cb 5 year n. alabama
finley s 1 year neb (cb not safety)
harts fs 3 year boise st

only 2 players has played in reg season action besides for a few plays

this group has never been together as a unit before now .3 players playing diff positions

alot of them trying to make roster spots from taxi squads

panther

 

[panther]

guesser

is what I got above correct???

not trying to bust your balls. as I am thankful for all the help I can get

the line movement on this game worries me to start with

good luck

panther

 

[panther]

guesser

1 other thing the deepth charts and rosters have been updated at the begining of training camp

good luck

panther

 

[jerseymike111]

I am riding with you again.Best of Luck!!!

 

[The Guesser]

I can't speak for all the NFL.com depth charts, but the one for the Chiefs was definitely from mid season last year, and has NOT been updated to the beginning of camp.
Some of the Chief 2nd stringers on D have played quite a bit. Here's the rundown. Stills was their Pass Rush DE LY, battling to keep that spot from Truluck and Rookie Wilkerson. Good edge rusher as are the other 2. Downing has been a 2 year regular, Ransom has been a regular, now a back-up, fighting for roster spot.
OLB Caver played some with Philly 2 years ago as a Rookie 2nd rounder, hasn't played much since but is very fast and seems to have rediscovered what made him a high draft choice. Beisel has only played specials, Atkins converted from safety LY, hasn't played much OLB, in battle for roster, McLeon is an established vet, had 8 ints for Rams a few years ago, battling with Bartee to start, Harris can't play a lick, Finley is unknown, battling for spot, only played specials, Harts started 2nd half of last year, good player.
Line movement is likely due to Friday's Vermiel switch announcement that Priest Holmes will start, as well as GB's 2 starting WR's out.

 

[SixthSense]

panther - I just replied in drunkguy's thread. Having been in Wisky this past weekend, I believe the line move is due to the Packers injuries. But, I don't think they are relevant because those guys would not have been playing much anyway, even if they could play. They will be missing Driver and Ferguson, but it looks like Walker is playing real well, as well as Ford and Karstan Bailey.

I'm not making an opinion on this game but I don't feel the line movement is justified. I guess one other reason could be the Chiefs have had more physical practices so far and I watched their offense rip apart the Vikings defense in a scrimmage this past week. Meanwhile, because the Packers have had so many injuries, Sherman has taken off the pads in many practices and held back on the more physical play.

Good luck.

 

[whormoan]

Add Darren Sharper to the list of Packers who won't suit up.

 

[GrandMasterB]

Just saw an interview with Mike Sherman, he said Favre and Pederson will split the first quarter, with Nall and Smith splitting the rest of the game. They really want to get a decent look at these two because GB will need to cut one of them.
As far as practice time, GB has had very little contact because of injuries and illness. Even their intrasquad scrimmage was no contact. Many rookies and free agent pickups will see early action to keep more starters from getting banged up. Too many new faces seeing their first playing time together.
I don't know enough about KC to make a prediction, but my money wouldn't be on GB.

 

[bblight]

Panther, check out
www.footballinsider.com
The drop down menus give a lot of team and depth data - and they tend to be very accurate and up to date (although they don't show all 80 players, they do show the relevant 65 or so) - they're very well laid out and simple to understand. I hope this can help!

Good luck!

Good luck