on the local Reds affiliate, and Harang mows em down in the 1st inning...so they come back from commercial and of course, they start bragging on Harang......they show his stats, and how long he has been with the Reds, and the stat shows he came to Reds in 2003...and they are bragging on how many innings he has pitched and how many strikeouts he has, but then u look at the wins, and it says 70.....70 wins since 2003? thats an average of less than 9 wins a year for the "main guy" on your staff......i know he's a workhorse, and been on some bad teams, but still, avg 9 wins a year in the majors is NOTHING to brag about...