Great line .. most of us can realate!

[docmercer--banned]

USAT had an article about the growing number of Neo-Cons who want Rumsfeld replaced ... they had a great line in the article:

"Like a compulsive gambler desperate to recover his losses, neoconservative talking heads stare at the setbacks in Iraq and conclude not that theirs was a bad bet, but rather that more should be wagered"

 

[charleslanger]

more troops & equipment needed-- it's gotta be done right...

 

[bblight]

With Rumsfeld under fire from both extremes, I have a growing belief that he's the best man for the job right now! As long as the neocons, and Doc and his neo-Nazi's want Rumsfeld out, then I'll want him to stay.

Has anyone else noticed that both sides have failed in attempting to paint Rumsfeld as a liar or an incompetent, so now they work at presenting him as uncaring and insensitive!

 

[docmercer--banned]

I'm glad bbligth brought up Nazis ....

A reminder: what do Bush & Hitler have in common, bblight?

Both are and were members of the Satantic Cult known as the Skull & Bones Society ... Hilter with the German chapter known as The Thule Society .. a Cult that preaches One World Govt doctrine

And Cheney is a proud Member of the Freemasons ... I see these 2 out in public and Damien of the movie The Omen sure comes to mind very quickly

 

[JDeuce]

Both are and were members of the Satantic Cult known as the Skull & Bones Society

You are an absolute jackass and a liar. I want you to post a link which conclusively proves that the Skull+Bones Society is a satanic cult.

It's nothing more than some goofy college group not that dissimilar to a fraternity...to which John Kerry also belonged, I might add. But until you can provide me with that link, I'm going to call you out as a liar in every thread you post this.

 

[docmercer--banned]

Jdeuce: Your name calling would make Karl Rove proud ..
When ya become an adult, feel free to contribute:

Since most people have no idea of the kind of secret society Skull & Bones is, or the kind of life-altering, mind-shattering experiences through which an Adept suffers, we are going to New Age authors to get the straight, unadulterated information.

New Age author, Bill Cooper, gives us great insight when he states that Skull & Bones is a part of the global Satanic network of secret societies called The Brotherhood of Death Societies. The German Brotherhood of Death Society was known as The Thule Society..... In other words, Skull & Bones is identical to The Thule Society!

Now, this information is critically important, for Adolf Hitler was trained in the deepest, darkest aspects of Black Magick Satanism by The Thule Society! Prescott Bush, George Herbert Walker Bush, and now George W. Bush, were all subjected to the same rituals and the same life-shattering experiences as was Adolf Hitler!

Skull & Bones is positively identical to The Thule Society. IDENTICAL!! THIS is the true face of the Brotherhood of Death Societies, of which President George W. Bush is a lifelong Adept! Hitler's Thule Society is IDENTICAL to Skull & Bones! Their Adepts partake in the same rituals, utter the same oaths, and participate in the same occult Death/Burial/Resurrection ceremonies!
Doubt it not! Do not be deceived. Do you have the courage and spiritual insight to believe it? Maybe you can further understand the spiritual deception that Liberal Protestant clergy and President Bush are skillfully draping over the eyes of America today.

Religious conservatives have regarded Bush as one of their own since the presidential campaign, when he spoke during a debate of the guidance of Jesus ... Bush's handling of the anti-terrorism campaign since Sept. 11 has solidified his standing by painting him in stark terms as the leader in a fight of good against evil. 'I think Robertson stepped down because the position has already been filled', said Gary Bauer, a religious conservative who challenged Bush in the Republican primary. Bush "is that leader right now. There was a great deal of identification with the president before 9-11 in the world of the Christian right, and the nature of this war is such that it's heightened the sense that a man of God is in the White House."

"Conservative Christians tend to view Bush's recent success as part of a divine plan. 'I've heard a lot of God knew something we didn't', [Ralph] Reed [who once led the Christian Coalition]. 'In the evangelical mind, the notion of an omniscient God is central to their theology. He had a knowledge nobody else had; He knew George Bush had the ability to lead in this compelling way'."

"Still, some of those around Bush say they have a sense that a higher purpose is involved. 'I think Bush is God's man at this hour, and I say this with a great sense of humility', Bush aide Tim Goeglein, described as a 'strong evangelical', told World magazine, a Christian publication ... Bush's effort succeeded. 'He is the leader of the Christian right', said Marshall Wittmann, a former Christian Coalition figure now with the Hudson Institute, a think tank." Note: the Hudson Institute is a major Illuminist planning group.

"... Jean Bethke Elshtain, a professor at the University of Chicago Divinity School, wrote of a 'powerful and moving moment' with Bush and an ecumenical group of religious leaders. 'One of our group asked, Mr. President, what can we do for you? He indicated that we could pray for me, for our country, for my family. He believes in the efficacy of prayer and needs wisdom and guidance and grace. A Greek Orthodox archbishop was invited to lead us in prayer. We all joined hands in a prayer circle, including the president."

The University of Chicago Divinity School is a Rockefeller funded, Liberal seminary that denies many of the key doctrines of the faith [Dr. Cathy Burns]. Key New Age authors have made no bones about the role the Ecumenical Movement is to play in their plan for the New World Order: Ecumenicism is to pave the way for the global religion of The Christ [Antichrist].

Thus, we have the spectacle of a Liberal, New Age oriented, Ecumenical, Christian Coalition declaring Bush to be their spiritual leader! What on earth is going on here? Since so many key events are running parallel to similar events in Nazi Germany under Adolf Hitler, I wonder if we might be seeing a religious church forming here that is parallel to the national "Christian" church that formed under Hitler's direction during the 1930's? We have already seen that Hitler and Bush belong to identical Satanic secret societies; might Bush be following in Hitler's footsteps religiously?

Since most people do not know that Hitler formed a national Christian church, let us educate you. At the time of his ascension to absolute dictatorship, Hitler began to formulate a plan to literally create a "Christian" Church that would serve his purposes. He pulled off a minor miracle in creating a "Positive Christian" Church that deceived the undiscerning among the population. Adolf considered the existing Christian Church to be too Fundamental, too narrow, and too spineless to be of much use in New World Order Germany. Therefore, he put together a coalition of churches that would join his new "Positive Christian" Church.

Hitler began this project by re-creating who Jesus Christ was, and then continued by redefining key doctrines. Trevor Ravenscroft tells us about the re-creation of Jesus. "... Jesus Christ [was] a tall, blond, magnificent Gallilean of the Amonite type with a very high proportion of non-Semitic blood ... Jesus was not a Jew. He was an Aryan ... The Blood of Christ was shed exclusively for the Aryan peoples." [The Spear of Destiny, p. 120].

Hitler further substituted pagan concepts for sin, redemption, the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ, confirmation, and weddings. As we have stated on other occasions, all pagan worship systems revolve around a counterfeit explanation of Death/Burial/Resurrection. Hitler's "Positive Christianity" is no exception.

However, Hitler did couch much of his new church in Christian sounding words and phrases of which true Christians were familiar. Thus, he was able to deceive many. Hitler believed this "Positive Christian" Church was very important to his realization of a New World Order for Germany.

CREED OF HITLER'S POSITIVE CHRISTIAN CHURCH

"We German Christians believe in our saviour Jesus Christ, in the power of his cross, and in his resurrection ... Germany is our task, Christ is our strength!"

"The source and the confirmation of our faith is the divine revelation of scriptures, and the witness borne by the fathers.The New testament, to us, is the sacred document of our lord, the saviour, and of his father's kingdom. The Old testament, to us, is an example of god's way of educating a people. In our faith it is of value to the extent that it opens our eyes to an understanding of the life, the crucifixion, and the resurrection of our saviour."

"The way to fulfil the German law is the faithful German congregation. In it, Jesus, the lord, reigns in grace and forgiveness. In it burns the fire of holy sacrifice. In it alone the saviour confronts the German people, and gives it the strength of faith. From this community of German Christians there shall grow a German Christian national church, embracing the entire people in the National Socialist state of Adolf Hitler." [Hitler Youth Song]

This is seemingly a powerful statement of Christian faith, is it not? It certainly "affirms" the key doctrines of the faith, at least as well as George Bush's statement of faith, quoted above. But, the key words in this Positive Christian Church declaration had all be secretly redefined, and few people in Germany knew it. I personally believe the creed of Hitler's Positive Christian Church is the stronger of the two!

This Positive Christian Church declaration concluded with these most emphatic words: "One people! One god! One Reich! One church!"

In his statement of conversion, George Bush emphatically stated also: "One Shepherd and one fold, now Jew and gentile, meeting, from many a distant shore, around an altar kneeling, one common Lord adore." [Emphasis added]

Imagine that! Why are Hitler Youth and George W. Bush confirming the same spiritual bottom line! In fact, this last statement of Bush is perfect Masonry, in their Brotherhood of Man concept.<!-- / message -->

 

[xpanda]

The Neoconservatives are not vocalising their displeasure of Rumsfeld's performance -- the paleo-conservative and traditional Republicans are. Rumsfeld is one of the neocons, kids. Let's try to keep them all straight, okay?

It is noteworthy, however, that none of the Neocons who helped get your country into this mess are coming to Rummy's defence (except Bush, but he's more of a ventriloquist's dummy than anything else). He is their lamb.

If Rumsfeld goes, who replaces him? Wolfowitz? That'd be worse. Or Libby? Egad! Yup. Slim pickins if you're looking for something a little different.

 

[docmercer--banned]

How bout ol Zell Miller of "spitball" fame .. hell, hes about as cranky as Rumsfeld and I'm sure just as qualified ....

 

[docmercer--banned]

More dedicated to Hannity, Jr .. aka JDeuce:

SKULL AND BONES SECRET SOCIETY -- A QUICK STUDY
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In past articles, we have stated that the New World Order could not have been realized had it not been for the intense activities of various secret societies throughout the world. We have mentioned one world-wide secret society, the Brotherhood Of Death Society, whose symbol is the skull with two crossed bones.

The German Brotherhood of Death Society is the Thule Society. Adolf Hitler joined this society in 1919, becoming an adept under the leadership of Dietrich Eckhart. Later, the Thule Society selected Hitler to be their leader of the New World Order, as Eckhart revealed on his deathbed, saying, "Follow Hitler; he will dance, but it is I who have called the tune. I have initiated him into the Secret Doctrine, opened his centers in vision, and given him the means to communicate with the powers." (Trevor Ravenscroft, The Spear Of Destiny, p. 91).

In August, 1990, President George Bush announced that the world had now entered into a New World Order. Shockingly, President Bush is an adept in the American Brotherhood of Death Society, the Yale Skull and Bones Society. As we stated earlier, Bush's New World Order is virtually identical with Hitler's; one key connecting point is their common membership in their respective Brotherhood of Death Societies (New Age author, Bill Cooper, Behold A Pale Horse, p. 81; plus Antony Sutton, Introduction To The Order, p.7). Skull and Bones' symbol is also a skull with two crossed bones, but with the mysterious number, '322' underneath.

As we get started in our study, remember that all members of the American Skull and Bones are just as Satanic as was Adolf Hitler. This premise is one that shocks most people to the core, because neither Former President Bush nor his son, Texas Governor George W. Bush, "look" like Adolf Hitler.

HITLER'S THULE SOCIETY -- AN OVERVIEW
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Let us begin with a quick overview of the German Thule Society, beginning with a study of its practices and relevant history. [size=+0]Members were Satanists who practiced Black Magick -- this means that they were "solely concerned with raising their consciousness by means of rituals to awareness of evil and nonhuman intelligences in the universe; and with achieving means of communication with these intelligences." (Ravenscroft, Spear of Destiny, p. 161). Concentrate on that seemingly innocent word, rituals. Christians equate a ritual to a church service, thereby not understanding its occultic meaning. The New Age Dictionary defines ritual as a "ceremony to restore balance with nature...and bring back lost harmony and sacredness." Remember we are dealing with the Satanic world, where good is called evil and evil is called good. The sacredness mentioned here is a Satanic sacredness. Rituals literally are proscribed activities designed to allow demonic power to flow through the participants. These activities are proscribed chants, formula wordings, and carefully planned actions. The effect is devastatingly powerful, as demonic force pours through the participants, delivering a counterfeit spiritual experience which literally transforms their lives. Never skip over the word ritual, as it is a word of Satanic power.

Thule members practiced a form of Sexual Magic derived from a lodge of which Aleister Crowley was a member. Crowley was recognized as the foremost worshipper of Satan in the 19th Century. "The origin of this...medieval magic...can be traced to a Freemason, Robert Little, who founded the Societas Rosicruciana in 1865... (Ravenscroft, Spear of Destiny, p. 164-5). While the actual sexual perversions which were practiced are too offensive to share, the results are not. Author Revenscroft stated that "indulgence in the most sadistic rituals awakened penetrating vision into the workings of Evil Intelligences and bestowed phenomenal magical powers." (Ibid. p. 167). This is the Thule Society.

Ravenscroft records its effect upon Hitler, "...sexual perversion took a central place in [Hitler's] life...a monstrous sexual perversion was the very core of his whole existence, the source of his mediumistic and clairvoyant powers, and the motivation behind every act through which he reaped a sadistic vengeance on humanity." (Ibid., p. 171).

Eckart's final act was to initiate Hitler into "a monstrous sadistic magic ritual...after which he was sexually impotent. Hitler's impotency had a deep psychological foundation. He knew sexual fulfillment [only] through the extremes of sadism and masochism..."(Ravenscroft, p. 155, 173). This impotency delivered a final devastating blow to Hitler's psychological foundation, finally making him into the sadistic murderer that history knows.

LOOKING FOR A SPIRITUAL SUPERMAN
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Members of the Thule society believed in "communication with a hierarchy of Supermen -- The Secret Chiefs of the Third Order". (Ibid) The quality which make these beings supermen was occultic spirituality. Further, they believed in Madame Blavatsky's Secret Doctrine, which teaches that certain superman had survived the destruction of Atlantis with their higher levels of consciousness intact. These supermen were Aryans. These two beliefs combined into one through the Thule Society and Hitler, culminating into the Nazi Death Camps. (Ibid, p. 166). When one group of people incorporate into their spiritual belief structure that they are inherently superior to another group of people, it is inevitable that genocide will be attempted as soon as possible.

The Thule Society regularly held occultic seances, during which time they communicated with demons who were either masquerading as a dead person or who were appearing as personal guiding spirits. Dietrich Eckart, Alfred Rosenberg, and Adolf Hitler invoked the "spirit of Anti-Christ" into manifestation at the mediumistic seances of the Thule Group in Munich." (Ravenscroft, Spear of Destiny, p. 168) Eckert believed he had been told by his guiding spirit he would have the privilege of training the coming Great One, the Anti-Christ. From the beginning of their association, Eckert believed Hitler was Anti-Christ. Therefore, Eckert spared no occultic knowledge, ritual, or perversion in his attempt to fully equip Hitler for that role. Once the training was completed, Hitler believed he was "born anew with that super-personal strength and resolution he would need to fulfill the mandate ... ordained for him." (p. Ravenscroft, p. 93-4) Hitler literally equated this with the Christian doctrine of being spiritually born again.

MORE SKULL AND BONES PARALLELS WITH HITLER'S THULE SOCIETY
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Now, let us look at the Skull and Bones rituals and beliefs. Little is firmly known about Skull and Bones, because their secrecy since they were established in 1833 is as complete as any society in the world. However, they possess all the requirements of a true secret society.

1. They were formed in secret and all their activities are carried out secretly.

2. Membership is by invitation only. Potential members are carefully screened as to suitability before they are invited to join.

3. The first night of the new member -- called an initiate -- is critically important. The initiate swears total obedience and loyalty to the secret society. This pledge is bound by serious oaths, some of which would be deadly if actually carried out, just as in Freemasonry. The first night is also critically important as it bounds the initiate to the society by means of ritual, oaths, and confessions.

The Skull and Bones also incorporates sexual activities into their practices, just as did the Thule Society. "The [ritualistic] death of the initiate will be as frightful as the use of human skeletons and ritual psychology can make it..." (Esquire Magazine, "The Last Secrets of Skull and Bones", Ron Rosenbaum, p. 89). Sexual perversion is part of this ritual psychology. Ron Rosenbaum, author of the Esquire Magazine article, stated that on initiation night, called tap night, "...if one could climb to the tower of Weir Hall, the odd castle that overlooks the Bones courtyard, one could hear strange cries and moans coming from the bowels of the tomb as the 15 newly tapped members were put through what sounded like a harrowing ordeal..." (Esquire, September, 1976, p. 86).

Further,[initiates] "lay naked in coffins and tell their deepest and darkest sexual secrets as part of their initiation." (Esquire, p. 85). These experiences in the coffins incorporated sexual pain and resulted in being born-again, into the Order, as we mentioned above. (Cooper, p.95) A powerful spiritual force charges through the participants of these ceremonies, transforming their lives dramatically.

This type of ritual is classic Satanism. Anton LaVey states, in his book The Satanic Rituals: Companion To The Satanic Bible, (p. 57),

"The ceremony of rebirth takes place in a large coffin..This is similar to the coffin symbolism that...is found in most lodge rituals."

Make no mistake about it: Any organization which utilizes this coffin ritual to simulate rebirth is practicing Satanism, including Skull and Bones.

The Skull and Bones believes that on the night of initiation, the initiate "dies to the world and be born again into the Order..." (Esquire Magazine, September, 1977, p. [size=+0]89). Remember Hitler's belief that he had been born anew after his ritualistic initiation and training? This term is a common one in Satanism. During the 1988 Presidential Campaign, a TV reporter asked Vice-President Bush if he were a Christian. Bush initially stammered, but then said, "if you mean born again, then, yes, I am a Christian". Vice-President Bush answered this question in a very expert manner, simultaneously being true to his own occult foundation while misleading innocent, trusting Christians.

As born-again Christians carry out the ritual of water baptism by immersion to demonstrate that they have died to the old way of life and have been reborn into a new life, Satanists have their coffin ritual to demonstrate the same life transformation. Rosenbaum continues his expose' of the born-again experience: "then it's into the coffin and off on a symbolic journey through the underworld to rebirth, which takes place in Room Number 322. There, the Order clothes the newborn knight in its own special garments, implying that, henceforth, he will tailor himself to the Order's mission." (Ibid., p. 89, 148). This ritual description is as occultic as any I have read, and truly reveals the Skull and Bones as Satanic.

ALLEGIANCE SHIFTS TO SATAN'S GOAL, NOT TO HIS COUNTRY
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[size=+0]One of the most sobering facets of this counterfeit born again initiation ritual is that the initiate swears to an allegiance to the Secret Order that transcends any allegiance later in life. New Age Christian author Bill Cooper captures this disturbing fact most succinctly, "...Members of the Order (Skull and Bones) take an oath that absolves them from any allegiance to any nation or king or government or constitution, and that includes the negating of any subsequent oath which they may be required to take. They swear allegiance only to the Order and its goal of a New World Order...according to the oath Bush took when he was initiated into Skull and Bones, his oath of office as President of the United States means nothing ." (Cooper, Behold A Pale Horse, p. 81-82). Since Bush's oath as President occurred after the Oath to Skull and Bones, it is not worth the paper on which it is printed. That kind of hold is powerful. Indeed, as Ron Rosenbaum began the research necessary to write his article for Esquire, he was warned about the power of Skull and Bones. "The power of Bones is incredible. They have their hands on every lever of power in the country."

The only thing which is important to the Skull and Bones is their goal of a New World Order. In conjunction with this understanding, remember one other Secret Society belief, i.e., the ends justify the means. The New World Order was the name of Hitler's Utopian Aryan society, also. In his writings and his speeches, Hitler constantly invoked this title of his planned society once he had conquered the world. When President Bush invoked the term, New World Order, during his August 16, 1990, speech condemning the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait, he was only the second major politician of the 20th Century to use that term. Hitler was the other.

Do not be deceived: Bush's New World Order is identical to Hitler's!

HISTORIC RESULTS OF HITLER'S PURSUIT OF THE NEW WORLD ORDER
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We have studied the common philosophical and religious links between the German Thule Society and the American Skull and Bones . We now need to study the historical results of the attempt of the Thule Society to establish a New World Order. After the Thule Society selected Adolf Hitler to be their leader of the New World Order, they faced the problem of the practical implementation of this goal.

They realized that their plans for world domination required control of the military power of Germany; however, the military is controlled by those holding political power, and Germany was a democracy. Therefore, the Thule Society created the Nazi Party. The Guiding Spirits of the Thule Society became the Guiding Spirits of the Nazi Party. In only 10 tumultuous years, Hitler gained high political office, from which he catapulted himself into the position of absolute dictator in 1933. In 1938, Hitler began the Final Solution of the Jewish problem by initiating the Holocaust. In 1939, Hitler initiated World War II, which lasted until mid-1945. As I read these results, I remembered James' words, "Then the evil desire, when it has conceived, gives birth to sin, and sin, when it is fully matured, brings forth death."

[/size]18,200,000 soldiers and 16,300,000 civilians for 34,000,000 total deaths. When you add 18,000,000 deaths from Hitler's Death Camps, you realize that over 54 million people lost their lives as the final result of the occultic practices and goals of the New World Order of that German Brotherhood of Death Society, the Thule Society . The 6,000,000 Jewish deaths from Hitler's Final Solution represented two-thirds of the total world-wide Jewish population.

[/size]UPDATED INFORMATION

During the presidential campaign of 2000, George W. Bush cast great new light on his past, and current, membership of the Skull & Bones. On August 1, 2000, Republican Candidate George W. Bush was interviewed by Walter Isaacson on cnn.com. This report, posted on the CNN internet site, was entitled, "George W. Bush: "My Heritage Is Part Of Who I Am' ". The results for the Biblically discerning are shocking and definitive. Put your discernment hat on.

In the course of the interview, Isaacson asked George W. about his past Skull and Bones experience. If ever George W. had a perfect opportunity to genuinely come clean about Skull and Bones, this was the time. As we revealed in this article, above, Skull and Bones is deeply and darkly Satanic; its sister German secret society, The Thule Society, had trained Adolf Hitler into the deepest and darkest of Satanic Black Magick. Did George W. repent and come clean?

No! Listen:

"TIME: But you [George Sr and George W.] sure shared a lot of the same upbringing: Andover, Yale, even Skull and Bones. Did you have any qualms, say, about joining an elite secret club like Bones?

Bush: No qualms at all. I was honored. I was fairly nonchalant. I didn't view it as a great heritage thing. I didn't take it all that seriously.

TIME: Demystify it a bit for those who might think it's a cross between a Masonic Lodge and the Trilateral Commission. Did your father show up for your initiation, like your grandfather showed up for his?

Bush: Without revealing all the great secrets? I got a few of my old club mates who could demystify it right off the bat. My dad didn't tap me. Someone a year ahead of me tapped me. There was an entry celebration. I can't remember whether my dad showed up or not. I don't think so. "

What a brilliant answer! In just a few brief sentences, George W. Bush buried all the deepest, darkest facts about Skull and Bones with a nonchalant, almost flippant, answer. Instead of tasking this opportunity to really tell the truth about Skull and Bones, and repenting of it, and telling of its global Antichrist aspirations, George W. simply added his experience in this society to the general litany of the experiences that made his character and personality what it is today!

This answer absolutely screams the truth about George W. Bush and the lack of genuineness about his claim to be Born Again. Since 1776, the President of the United States is the most important single political position in the world of the Masters of the Illuminati. The occult unfinished pyramid on the back of our official One Dollar Bill, with the Eye of Horus [Lucifer] atop, tells you the truth of this fact. If anyone ever came into this office and tried to turn against the Illuminati, he would be assassinated.

We have one primary example of just one President who turned against the Illuminati once he was in office; his name was President John F. Kennedy. Consider these facts, against the backdrop that Kennedy was assassinated in Novermber, 1963:

Spring, 1963: President Kennedy announced that he was going to withdraw American forces from the Vietnam War.

September, 1963: President Kennedy announced that he would have 1,000 "American boys" home by Christmas.

President Kennedy was planning to use the powers of his office of the presidency to fully inform the American people of the Illuminati plan to enslave us, and only weeks later, he was assassinated. However, his assassination was carried out according to the favorite number of the Illuminati, the eleven:

* Kennedy was murdered during the 11th month [November]

* Kennedy was murdered on the 22nd day [11 x 2]

* Kennedy was murdered at the 33rd parallel [11 x 3]

* Kennedy was murdered in the Masonic Dealey Plaza, the site of an old Masonic Lodge during the time of the Texas revolution designed to free Texas from Mexican control.

Kennedy was murdered with the accompanying signature of the Illuminati, just as surely as the Number 11 formed the Illuminist signature of the attack on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon on September 11, 2001.

Had George W. Bush really been Born Again, he could have taken the course Kennedy chose, to reveal the Plan of the Illuminati that has been fostered by Skull and Bones. The fact he did nothing of the kind tells the discerning Christian all he needs to know about George W. Bush. No repentance whatsoever. Now you know the truth about George W. Bush.

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[WHALE]

Good article Doc Mercer, thanks !!!

 

[bblight]

Next thing we'll be reading about Doc's new conspiracy theory on the JFK assasination; Bush did it because Kennedy was going to tax big oil!

This crap is so marginal as to be fiction!

Doc - you're not reaching any more, you're not even strtching - this stuff is nothing but contortion.

Add a few cartoons and we have doonesbury!

Read the following article on secret societies - please notice how well it fits Doc's theories:

A secret society is a social organization that requires its members to conceal certain activities—such as rites of initiation or club ceremonies—from outsiders. Members may be required to conceal or deny their membership, and are often sworn to hold the society's secrets by an oath. This term is often used to describe fraternal organizations (i.e. Freemasonry) that may have secret ceremonies.

Secret societies are often the subject of suspicion and speculation from non-members, and as such have aroused nervousness from outsiders since at least the time of the ancient Greeks. Often, secret societies are featured in Conspiracy theories that ascribe to them immense power and ill-intentions and accuse them of harboring secret (and often satanic) beliefs and either self-serving financial or political agendas. While some conspiracy theorist claim secret societies desire to institute a "New World Order," others claim that these organizations are harmless or overestimated, dismissing them as over-glorified fraternities.

 

[eek.]

My own totally unsubstantiated theory is that Kennedy was removed because he was a bit too willing to push the button and nuke the human race.

I must confess that, for myself, I would be perfectly willing to be a part of any conspiracy to eliminate anyone like that.
I might not be happy about it, but the logic for the survival of the species, is self evident.

 

[bblight]

eek - your problem is that you're defining an historic event by todays cultural standards. All of the democracies back then had just come out of WWII and the Korean conflict and all of them had a taste of facism to them that you can't find nowadays.

What would have happened if Kennedy hadn't called Kruhsev's missile move? Is there a chance that allowing the placement of nuclear missiles in Cuba could have resulted in war? Possibly nuclear war? The answer is yes - we could easily have ended up making a counter move, entering into an escalating crisis that might easily have ended in war.

The answer is obvious that Kennedy made the only choice that he could have under the circumstance. Kruhsev removed the missiles from Cuba, we moved some missiles out of Turkey, and the event became history.

 

[docmercer--banned]

bblight:

wake up and face the light regarding Bush ...

he does belong to a Satantic cult that believes in a one world govt and Hilter was also a member ...

Bush's entire life has been built around lies and deception ...
hey, I dont defend Clinton for a lot of his action but the Bushies kill me in that admitting Bush has a massive load of shortcomings just kills me

Hell, Bush struggled to name one mistake he made in office his first term in the STL debate? Which is it:

a) he is stupid
b) has ADD
c) lies on everything
d) was back on coke that nite of the debate

I am Catholic .. to see this guy walk around touting Biblical phrases while he takes daily actions of a man who has never read one page out of the bible (which in his case is probably pretty accurate) is disgusting @ best ...

We are approaching 1300 kids dead in Iraq and the only thing the Bushies care about is the "Image" of Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld .. and if kids have to do to protect that "Image", good enough for the Cheney administration

 

[JDeuce]

Nice try, Doc Mullah...

These articles you posted spend about 90% of the time going into detail about Hitler's stupid cult, but fail to draw any real similarities between that and the Skull+Bones society. Take this for example:

As we get started in our study, remember that all members of the American Skull and Bones are just as Satanic as was Adolf Hitler. This premise is one that shocks most people to the core, because neither Former President Bush nor his son, Texas Governor George W. Bush, "look" like Adolf Hitler.

Fantastic. Why are they just as satanic, exactly? The closest comparison I've seen is this goon saying "See? These two clubs were similar because they both had skulls and bones for their symbol. Therefore, that MUST mean they're all Satanists and EVERY activity they did was the same."

You've produced exactly zero eye witness accounts of satan worshiping Skull+Bones acts, zero former members interviewed (speaking on anonymity...don't you think even *one* of them would speak out after all these years if its such a truly terrible group?), zero incidents of reported trouble from the Yale campus (you know, like the sacfiricing of animals that satanists dig so much), and zero similarities between Skull + Bones and Thule...other than their members get goofy by lounging in a coffin for initiation.

Part of the fun of W winning the election is knowing it's making mewling leftist nebbishes like yourself cringe and whine so much. For me, election night was like a great steak meal. Now all this whining from the left is like having a fine scotch after the meal.

Anyways, try again.

 

[bblight]

Hey Doc - Do you ever read the material that you type? You sound like a ten year old trying to write a war story - you have these same simple stories that you just tell over and over again and again. Please get some new material, and please try to find somebody new to hate!

 

[docmercer--banned]

bblight:

with your "non educated" feedback on every thread, I am suprised about 2 things:

1) You claim you can read
2) You can spell the word read

The Bushies aint the most intelligent crowd on earth and you sure aint damaging that image with one "brilliant" commentary after another ...

 

[bblight]

Doc - this skull and bones crap is just that - crap!
I'd rather read about how W beat Richards by telling lies about her! At least that's more interesting.

By the way, what ever happened to the concealed hand gun law that Richards refused to sign? Did that ever become law? Oh, yes, that's right, she didn't lose the election because she refused to sign the concealed hand gun law, or because she was a liberal in a conservative state - she lost because W was bad to her!

What a joke!

 

[xpanda]

I gotta side with Blight and Deuce on this one. The whole Skull and Bones thing seems a tad exaggerated. Besides, Doc just uses it to prove that Bush isn't a proper Christian. Does it even matter?? The man is pandering to the Religious Right, which is equally dangerous.

I have a friend who was once a Freemason. They're pretty whacky, too. My friend's an atheist (always has been) but still abides by the 'don't tell' philosophy. He claims it's just another 'old boys club' than anything else ... sounds like skull and bones is the same.

I gotta say, Doc, you freak me out. You're the only Yank I've encountered who's pissed that Bush isn't 'Christian enough.' Maybe you would happier living in Vatican City?

 

[docmercer--banned]

Xpanda:

Bush is the Man touting the Bible and then turning right around and praising the Islamic Religion as the "Religion of Peace" and holding Ramadan events in the White House that taxpayers picked up the bill for days after the elections ...

FreeMason .. yeah, and guess who is a FreeMason? CHENEY ...

Skull & Bones is a Satantic Cult .. same Cult Hilter was a proud member of ...

Again, Bush is stomping around telling everyone how "reborn he is" and then turning right around and doing crap that shows he is nothing but a true politician who will say whatever is needed to whoever and whenever ... Bush is so flappin phony it is disgusting - almost as disgusting as the crowd of Dittoheads like bblight who praise the man for standing for Morals