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missed the boat on +1, but even at a pickem its still a large play for me.. Cleveland has struggled with Denver for years, tonight will be no exception. The Cavs don't have the same flow without Ilgauskus setting pick 'n pops. Also, their rotation is a little out of whack with Gibson still out.. That is 2 of their top 5 scoring options out.. granted this is not new info, but it is still relevant here.

I would have played this game all the way up to Denver -3.. I really think they coast tonight.
 

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cavs are the better teams here ..but denver is playing well since billups came to the team..
 

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You can't ask for a better game to go against the Cavs ats run. The books want some of that Cleveland money back, and they hadn't been running into any dominant teams on the road for a good stretch, so they look all but invincible, which makes everyone salivate over points. The books could have favored them here and gotten split money, its revenge time, just like this game is for the Nuggets and here they come to win some cash for Vegas.
 

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Even with BIG Z out Cleveland is still the better team. Denver lost to the HORNETS and SPURS at HOME and both of these teams play strong D. Cleveland will apply a lot of pressure on Denver and these folks will be shooting bricks. Cleveland is the play or no play here folks as Cleveland has way better D then SPURS and HORNETS.

But it's best to stay away from this game and if a must take Cleveland...
 

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Even with BIG Z out Cleveland is still the better team. Denver lost to the HORNETS and SPURS at HOME and both of these teams play strong D. Cleveland will apply a lot of pressure on Denver and these folks will be shooting bricks. Cleveland is the play or no play here folks as Cleveland has way better D then SPURS and HORNETS.

But it's best to stay away from this game and if a must take Cleveland...
This is a game that the public will get hammered on. No way Cleveland keeps on covering. Perfect setup game right here, Nuggets coming off a loss and a revenge game for them. Cleveand key injury to big Z, this opens up the middle for Nene. Cavs have just had unreal ats streak and won their last game, so they don't have the motivational edge of an immediate loss to follow. Vegas wont lose again with the Cavs.
 

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Even with BIG Z out Cleveland is still the better team. Denver lost to the HORNETS and SPURS at HOME and both of these teams play strong D. Cleveland will apply a lot of pressure on Denver and these folks will be shooting bricks. Cleveland is the play or no play here folks as Cleveland has way better D then SPURS and HORNETS.

But it's best to stay away from this game and if a must take Cleveland...

yes, DEN lost to two good teams at home. tell me where the good team is in this run:

<table class="data" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="1"><tbody><tr><td class="datahl2">12/17/08</td> <td class="datacell"> @MIN</td> <td class="datacell"> W 93-70 </td> <td class="datacell">W -10</td> <td class="datacell">U 189</td> <td class="datacell"> 13.0 </td> <td class="datacell">40/75</td> <td class="datacell">29/71</td> <td class="datacell">44-36</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="datahl2">12/13/08</td> <td class="datacell"> @ATL</td> <td class="datacell"> L 92-97 </td> <td class="datacell">L -4</td> <td class="datacell">O 187.5</td> <td class="datacell"> -9.0 </td> <td class="datacell">34/82</td> <td class="datacell">30/63</td> <td class="datacell">34-40</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="datahl2">12/12/08</td> <td class="datacell"> PHI</td> <td class="datacell"> W 88-72 </td> <td class="datacell">W -10.5</td> <td class="datacell">U 189.5</td> <td class="datacell"> 5.5 </td> <td class="datacell">32/78</td> <td class="datacell">30/69</td> <td class="datacell">39-40</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="datahl2">12/10/08</td> <td class="datacell"> @PHI</td> <td class="datacell"> W 101-93 </td> <td class="datacell">W -6.5</td> <td class="datacell">O 186.5</td> <td class="datacell"> 1.5 </td> <td class="datacell">40/87</td> <td class="datacell">33/78</td> <td class="datacell">46-41</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="datahl2">12/09/08</td> <td class="datacell"> TOR</td> <td class="datacell"> W 114-94 </td> <td class="datacell">W -12.5</td> <td class="datacell">O 196.5</td> <td class="datacell"> 7.5 </td> <td class="datacell">43/87</td> <td class="datacell">32/71</td> <td class="datacell">45-33</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="datahl2">12/06/08</td> <td class="datacell"> @CHAR</td> <td class="datacell"> W 94-74 </td> <td class="datacell">W -8</td> <td class="datacell">U 184</td> <td class="datacell"> 12.0 </td> <td class="datacell">32/69</td> <td class="datacell">25/69</td> <td class="datacell">39-34</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="datahl2">12/05/08</td> <td class="datacell"> IND</td> <td class="datacell"> W 97-73 </td> <td class="datacell">W -11</td> <td class="datacell">U 206</td> <td class="datacell"> 13.0 </td> <td class="datacell">38/74</td> <td class="datacell">29/72</td> <td class="datacell">43-35</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="datahl2">12/03/08</td> <td class="datacell"> NY</td> <td class="datacell"> W 118-82 </td> <td class="datacell">W -15.5</td> <td class="datacell">U 215.5</td> <td class="datacell"> 20.5 </td> <td class="datacell">43/85</td> <td class="datacell">32/83</td> <td class="datacell">48-39</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="datahl2">11/29/08</td> <td class="datacell"> @MIL</td> <td class="datacell"> W 97-85 </td> <td class="datacell">W -7</td> <td class="datacell">U 195</td> <td class="datacell"> 5.0 </td> <td class="datacell">39/94</td> <td class="datacell">29/74</td> <td class="datacell">53-38</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="datahl2">11/28/08</td> <td class="datacell"> GS</td> <td class="datacell"> W 112-97 </td></tr></tbody></table>

ATL right? im not saying CLE will lose to good teams but their blowout factor is a little inflated considering they played the bottom half of the league during that time. they keep it close but two key injuries will hurt them.
 

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This is a game that the public will get hammered on. No way Cleveland keeps on covering. Perfect setup game right here, Nuggets coming off a loss and a revenge game for them. Cleveand key injury to big Z, this opens up the middle for Nene. Cavs have just had unreal ats streak and won their last game, so they don't have the motivational edge of an immediate loss to follow. Vegas wont lose again with the Cavs.

i mentioned yesterday that denver owns the lebron-era cavs. so i want no part of cleveland in this game plus or minus anything. that said, the whole 'vegas wont lose again with the cavs' holds no weight whatsoever because they have been covering in all kinds of spots for weeks. 'no way cleveland keeps on covering' was a common post ..... about 2-3 weeks ago. theyve kept on covering. vegas can hang -8 for cleveland on this game and the reality is that a streaking team can cover even a bad, egregiously inflated number.
 

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When 2 great NBA teams battle and you feel like putting down some $, ALWAYS ALWAYS take the home team.
 

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I'm a devout Cavs fan, so my view might not be free of bias.


But, I guarantee a Cavs victory. This is a different Cavs team from the past times they played Denver. Z should most likely end up playing, he was practicing at shootaround and he was moving around well ( well for Z anyways:missingte ) at the Minnesota game. Almost looked like he could've played, but I'm guessing they are saving him for this one.

Watch out for rookie JJ Hickson, as he's starting to earn coach Brown's trust again, since he is now improving his defensive effort on the floor and is back in the rotation it seems, hopefully. Mike Brown kept this stud PF nailed to the bench for the last couple of weeks from playing any meaningful minutes, just because he expects a lot out of his players to show great effort on D.
 

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I'm a devout Cavs fan, so my view might not be free of bias.


But, I guarantee a Cavs victory. This is a different Cavs team from the past times they played Denver. Z should most likely end up playing, he was practicing at shootaround and he was moving around well ( well for Z anyways:missingte ) at the Minnesota game. Almost looked like he could've played, but I'm guessing they are saving him for this one.

Watch out for rookie JJ Hickson, as he's starting to earn coach Brown's trust again, since he is now improving his defensive effort on the floor and is back in the rotation it seems, hopefully. Mike Brown kept this stud PF nailed to the bench for the last couple of weeks from playing any meaningful minutes, just because he expects a lot out of his players to show great effort on D.

dont bet with your heart my man. it wont work out in the long run.
 

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I understand what you guys are saying thats why I would not play this game at all.. However if I had a gun to my head I take Cleveland thats all.

BOL on your plays guys as there are many other games to pick from todays cards.
 

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I'm a devout Cavs fan, so my view might not be free of bias.


But, I guarantee a Cavs victory. This is a different Cavs team from the past times they played Denver. Z should most likely end up playing, he was practicing at shootaround and he was moving around well ( well for Z anyways:missingte ) at the Minnesota game. Almost looked like he could've played, but I'm guessing they are saving him for this one.

Watch out for rookie JJ Hickson, as he's starting to earn coach Brown's trust again, since he is now improving his defensive effort on the floor and is back in the rotation it seems, hopefully. Mike Brown kept this stud PF nailed to the bench for the last couple of weeks from playing any meaningful minutes, just because he expects a lot out of his players to show great effort on D.

Your info on Ilgauskus is wrong. I just got done talking the The Cavs beat writer (Brian Windhorst) Z is officially listed as doubtful, and that they are looking at the Houston game on the 23rd as his earliest return.. they are using extreme caution considering his history with that foot.
 

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Your info on Ilgauskus is wrong. I just got done talking the The Cavs beat writer (Brian Windhorst) Z is officially listed as doubtful, and that they are looking at the Houston game on the 23rd as his earliest return.. they are using extreme caution considering his history with that foot.

good info, thanks!
 

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dont bet with your heart my man. it wont work out in the long run.

I know what your saying completely dude! But, if for that period of the Cavs streak, I would've just played on just those games exclusively, instead of playing on other games in the meantime.... my winnings would've been through the roof! I really felt the lines were not giving the cavs credit, even at that certain point, and I should've took more advantage by not putting units on any other stuff, where the value didn't add up to anything close to those cavs games.

But that's after the fact of course. I still did win good money during that streak. I will in the future, end up putting money against my heart this year, since I want to cap for success not just for fun or extra motivation for cheering my home team. But thanks for the warning regardless, I'm assuming, fellow Cavs fan :103631605
 

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Thanks for the info on Z. Windhorst is a trustful source. My assumption is wrong then..
 

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i actually have the cavs tonite also at +1

think the game is going to be close cant favor either side by a whole lot

den has been much more consistent with billups but think the cavs arent going down easy tonite should be a good game
 

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