good football services for the upcoming season? add to list if you know

[RidgeRider]

Marc Lawrence sucks! He's almost 80 years old. He doesn't even bet his own games. That's how much confidence he has in his dart tosses.

 

[doctorsuccess]

Marc Lawrence sucks! He's almost 80 years old. He doesn't even bet his own games. That's how much confidence he has in his dart tosses.

Marc Lawrence has won more football handicapping contests than anyone else in history.

He placed 7th in the Westgate Supercontest just a couple of years ago, and has had other top-10 finishes.

If you're betting on football, his magazine and newsletter are essential reading.

As I advised the OP, get the magazine and STUDY it, including and especially the back issues. It's helped make me rich.

As I also advised the OP, no one is hitting more than 57% long term. The people I know who make their living doing this are in the 54-55% range long term.

 

[gatorboy]

Marc Lawrence sucks! He's almost 80 years old. He doesn't even bet his own games. That's how much confidence he has in his dart tosses.

Good to know yeah most of these guys are old and dont bet anymore

I do know that some do on the list

from my experience these guys bet for real:
Football Jesus LV NFL 2024 182-82-3 NCAA 2024 205 -88
AJ Hoffman 2024 NFL 90-82 2024 NCAA 141-125

Not sure about Ben Burns ? seems just like sports service guy like Marc Lawerence
2024 NFL 36-26 2024 NCAA 35-26

 

[ryangenero]

You sound like a shill, man. Maybe you're not. If you say you aren't, I'll take your word for it. But if you are, just be honest about it.

a shill for what or who ? i have been here for years before you guys were even old enough to bet or born
I remember when there were like 20 handicappers/ services ,

NOW THOUSANDS , and now every kid with a you tube address thinks he can pick games

Im shill for what or who ? seriously, just BUY Picks, post em or share em and be happy others share with you

stop shooting the messengers , if you dont like certain handicappers, contact them and discuss it, it has nothing to do with the guys who invest in handicappers and share information

 

[skoda]

Just follow the leaders in our NFL and NCAA Foots contests (on the Community Contests board) and you'll do as well as any tout can advise.

I remember the days when there were weekly/monthly contests (pk-5 ATS/ML) with results weekly posted so anyone could follow and avoid buying picks from someone we most know is throwing darts or flipping coin or giving me Team A and You Team B or…. The stories are longer than the season

 

[MAGAking1]

Still remember the first conman I worked with , went by the name of Bill Banks from NYC.....they sold themselves as an information agent vs a handicapper.....First game was WashingtonSt +3, they won easily and I thought I was going to print money....LOL

I paid for 4 games, went 2-1-1 and continued to get milked until they busted me out....If I had lost that first weekend I would not have continued.

 

[CaliforniaBlue]

I have been a member here for over a DECADE , time and MANY handicappers / Professionals do MUCH better than 56%!!

I PAID MONEY to subscribe to BOTH AJ Hoffman & Football Jesus LV , & some others last year in 2024 ( and other years going back over 10 years) and I can tell you the records are NOT lying ,

I have paid for almost all of those guys LISTED above in past

Have used Football Jesus LV several seasons of the last dozen years
and bought AJ HOFFMNAN for a season as well,

I have posted their picks here occasionally.

AJ came around about 3-4 years ago, but good as well, I think Steve Fezzik just gets College Picks from AJ -they are almost identical

BOTH AJ & Football Jesus send the plays EARLY in week so you get BETTER lines resulting in MORE WINS and NO PROP BETS= MORE WINS

THEY DONT WIN EVERY TIME and even have A BAD MONTH sometimes but overall good seasons, but the information is TIMELY and GOOD

as bonus Football Jesus LV lets you text or call his cell phone, with questions if your line is OFF , or whatever , which VERY FEW IF ANY CAPPERS do

90% of these touts wait till gameday or day before to give picks and you get worse NUMBERS ( most of the time)

you kids just think everything , from photos, videos, news , etc is fake , you guys think everything is a conspiracy, nothing COULD POSSIBLY BE REAL

not 2-3 free picks here or 1-2 posted plays a week, BUT OVERALL those are right

but yes I can confirm those above are pretty good , actual NUMBERS ,

if anyone else has ACTUALLY PAID FOR FULL SEASONS on any Capper and has information
let us all know!

Ok so most guys dont have good records blah blah blah i will check out the good ones & will buy those cappers with good records that people paid for from last few years

seems like they are the good ones you mentioned & will check out websites & see what they offer


thank you

 

[ryangenero]

Football Jesus LV NFL 2024 182-82-3 NCAA 2024 205 -88
AJ Hoffman 2024 NFL 90-82 2024 NCAA 141-125
Ben Burns 2024 NFL 36-26 2024 NCAA 35-26

as a guy who has been paying & following for years here these guys you mentioned are good
I paid for the WHOLE SEASON OF all three and did well good luck to you

 

[Michelangelo]

There are 272 games in an NFL regular season and your guy bet 267 of them and won at a 69% rate?

Sure, bub. Sure.

 

[ryangenero]

There are 272 games in an NFL regular season and your guy bet 267 of them and won at a 69% rate?

Sure, bub. Sure.

well mr GENIUS the bets are not limited to 1 REGULAR season game bet per game

side & total (like any game or thur or monday night !) this doubles for over 500 possible already
1st Half bets
2nd half bets
Future bets to win division, conference
pre season games
Play off games
& at westgate superbook in vegas there were 500 different proposition bets offered for the Super Bowl

your "272 " number is WAY OFF

if you WANT record for FOOTBALL JESUS LV 2024 NFL
for ONLY games sides & totals -its about the same %
( or better !!=as future bets not as good BUT 1st H bets & 2nd H bets are BETTER !)

I can GIVE MANY handicappers records last season that I Paid for MOST below 55%

you can pay for a season and do the work yourself its help full to all of us !
or you you can just follow along for FREE

I will update THIS seasons results EACH week ( WIN Or LOSE( when i post plays for each handicapper i track for the BENEFIT OF ALL

good luck to everyone and have fun

 

[CaliforniaBlue]

well mr GENIUS the bets are not limited to 1 REGULAR season game bet per game

side & total (like any game or thur or monday night !) this doubles for over 500 possible already
1st Half bets
2nd half bets
Future bets to win division, conference
pre season games
Play off games
& at westgate superbook in vegas there were 500 different proposition bets offered for the Super Bowl

your "272 " number is WAY OFF

if you WANT record for FOOTBALL JESUS LV 2024 NFL
for ONLY games sides & totals -its about the same %
( or better !!=as future bets not as good BUT 1st H bets & 2nd H bets are BETTER !)

I can GIVE MANY handicappers records last season that I Paid for MOST below 55%

you can pay for a season and do the work yourself its help full to all of us !
or you you can just follow along for FREE

I will update THIS seasons results EACH week ( WIN Or LOSE( when i post plays for each handicapper i track for the BENEFIT OF ALL

good luck to everyone and have fun

thank your your input appreciate people who have first hand knowledge and actually buy the picks

 

[mma-expert]

California Blue - You see this information at Freaks and instead of asking them there. You copy it and bring it here to ask others instead of the guys that paid for those services.

That's weird.

You just can't resist you have to mention another forum every time! One question for you, did you post there and complain like you do here from the year 2000 to 2020 when they were copying from every forum? If you need proof go look its in the history, history doesn't lie!

 

[exploited17]

For what it is worth guys all this talk of Football Jesus hitting 70% or whatever I went back and checked.
ACTUAL POSTED PLAYS(not someone said his record is such and such)were 3-11 in the college football regular season from the beginning to the end of November POSTED in the Saturday service thread last year. One of those wins was a -172 favorite


I only checked the Saturday weekly thread. Maybe there were other game posted. All I can say it si quite the coincidence a guy hitting 70% happened to go 3-11 on posted Saturday games. Hmmmmm

 

[exploited17]

For what it is worth guys all this talk of Football Jesus hitting 70% or whatever I went back and checked.
ACTUAL POSTED PLAYS(not someone said his record is such and such)were 3-11 in the college football regular season from the beginning to the end of November POSTED in the Saturday service thread last year. One of those wins was a -172 favorite


I only checked the Saturday weekly thread. Maybe there were other game posted. All I can say it si quite the coincidence a guy hitting 70% happened to go 3-11 on posted Saturday games. Hmmmmm

Bump
Another loss for Quicksand Jesus in NCAFF
LOL 70%

 

[gatorboy]

Bump
Another loss for Quicksand Jesus in NCAFF
LOL 70%

well BOTH picks posted here won sunday & monday you never acknowledge that seems 100% of each handicappers plays ar not posted here just a few here and there so we have to take the word from the guys who paid no one is 100%

good luck to us all

 

[exploited17]

well BOTH picks posted here won sunday & monday you never acknowledge that seems 100% of each handicappers plays ar not posted here just a few here and there so we have to take the word from the guys who paid no one is 100%

good luck to us all

He was 3-11 in college football posted plays yet he it 70%? You really want people to believe that? Even worse the only plays that matter are posted ones. Yet what is tracked is not the posted record. Someone said they verified it personally because they bought the plays. Either they are a liar shilling for FJ. They are FJ or you have to ask why they have not posted all or most of his plays considering they know he is a 70% winner. Odd huh

 

[ryangenero]

I have said it before , and will repeat it stop accusing people of things based on Nothing or they will STOP POSTING Information

Have you paid to subscribe to these cappers and have records of 100 % of their paid plays or just a few ?

or YOU never paid them and just spouting conjecture?
a few posted plays are NOT all, and EVERY One of every handicappers plays are NOT posted here

I actually PAY for whole seasons not a week or a month & and post actual records of all picks, if you dont like them DONT bet em or take it up with the handicappers

they have ups and downs and winning months and losing months , and i posted FULL season records
NOT the posters are doing everyone a service BUYING PICKS & posting them & records , not partial samples

i will just stop posting all of the capper i BOUGHT for awhile and go to where people are respectful and see if it changes

 

[CaliforniaBlue]

can we just DM you with more questions & info about services you have paid for

 

[ryangenero]

can we just DM you with more questions & info about services you have paid for

Yes you can i will answer any questions about the MANY services I pay for

as one of the LONG time guys who PAY and share info Im old enough to stay above this crap and those who make insulting , unfounded conspiracy claims & allegations with no proof at all,

 

[SJJ]

I'll never understand why ppl complain about something they aren't even paying for. Seems to me the ONLY ppl who can justifiably complain are the person who ACTUALLY paid for the service. If you find something that's struggling to win, don't bet them, Problem solved.