Giving out flu shots all over the place here

gtc08 · Oct 25, 2008

Even seeing ads saying go here, here, or here, we'll get you a free flu shot. What do you guys think about this? I actually believe these supposed shots are dangerous and should be avoided. Been hearing lately about more parents challenging the schools in regards to a kid being ineligible for attending school because they didn't get there various shots because the parents didn't want the school to give it to them.

Even at birth, some parents are challenging those vaccines that are given.

whalewager · Oct 25, 2008

My son contracted whooping cough when he was less than 3 months old...not too long before he was scheduled to be immunized...Dr said it was probably because of all the illegal aliens over here.

I will take my chances to keep my children safe....

How many people do you hear dying because of the shot and how many because of the actual flu...

you are just trying to argue right? I mean....you really cant believe that,in general, a flu shot can be dangerous right?

Cant make this shit up

whalewager · Oct 25, 2008

pertussis=whooping cough in case you need that additional info

whalewager · Oct 25, 2008

most parents that challenge shit like this are idiots...same people who dont believe in taking their children to a Dr and let them die over something that could have been treated....fucking wackos and dont deserve children

gtc08 · Oct 25, 2008

i forget, what do they pump you up with immediately after birth? what diseases do they prevent? i know measles, mumps off the top of my head. i heard some of those vaccines can lead to defects or complications.

nimue77 · Oct 25, 2008

Thimerasol is not good for humans.

whalewager · Oct 25, 2008

herpes

fletchisrhsm · Oct 25, 2008

gtc08 said:
Even seeing ads saying go here, here, or here, we'll get you a free flu shot. What do you guys think about this? I actually believe these supposed shots are dangerous and should be avoided. Been hearing lately about more parents challenging the schools in regards to a kid being ineligible for attending school because they didn't get there various shots because the parents didn't want the school to give it to them.

Even at birth, some parents are challenging those vaccines that are given.

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whalewager · Oct 25, 2008

You must not have kids fletcher

fletchisrhsm · Oct 25, 2008

georgejefferson said:
You must not have kids fletcher

If i do or do not isnt the issue. The issue is common sense. Putting that number of shots into a small infant just isnt logical. I mean there are thousands if not millions of parents who reject those shots, does that make them bad parents somehow if they do? I think thats rather presumptuous to say the least.

whalewager · Oct 25, 2008

So you think if you did have kids...you wouldnt let them give them shots huh?

Mistermj · Oct 25, 2008

fletchisrhsm said:
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Yup..from a profit stand point preventing serious disease with a $3 vaccination is so much more profitable than letting them get a serious disease ...where the big bucks are in treatment.

Damn pharma controlling the masses...trying to stop expensive deadly disease before it starts and spreads.

Damn them anyway! :drink:

fletchisrhsm · Oct 25, 2008

Mistermj said:
Yup..from a profit stand point preventing serious disease with a $3 vaccination is so much more profitable than letting them get a serious disease ...where the big bucks are in treatment.

Damn pharma controlling the masses...trying to stop expensive deadly disease before it starts and spreads.

Damn them anyway! :drink:

There is also mercury in those vaccinations as well. If you want to vaccinate a child wait until at least a few years, no reason to do it so young. And you dont need 20 of them either, that rubbish. Also, Immunizations for the first year cost at least $600+, so im not sure where you are finding the 3 dollar bargains, but i would advise you not to continue them. This kind of head scratching number is fitting as i think back to all your laughable defenses for the economey and the debt and what not. Same fuzzy math there as well.

DarrylParsons · Oct 25, 2008

I have trouble accepting the idea that the human species needs vaccines while the millions of other species (including humans btw) have come along fine without them for tens upon thousands of years.

Avoiding disease is mainly common sense. For example, I would not put my less than 1 year-old child in a room with a bunch of strangers for any length of time. For the first three months, no visitors at all, and only breast milk. Nature plus common sense are great immunizers.

fletchisrhsm · Oct 25, 2008

Darryl Parsons said:
I have trouble accepting the idea that the human species needs vaccines while the millions of other species (including humans btw) have come along fine without them for tens upon thousands of years.

Avoiding disease is mainly common sense. For example, I would not put my less than 1 year-old child in a room with a bunch of strangers for any length of time. For the first three months, no visitors at all, and only breast milk. Nature plus common sense are great immunizers.

I like it DP. The Colostrum in breast milk is really all you need besides like you said common sense. Problem is we dont have enough mothers breast doing this, but the answer should be pump my kids with chemicals, that isnt dealing with this in the logical way, the logical way is getting more mothers to eat better and pump milk.

whalewager · Oct 25, 2008

hahaha...needless to say...you guys wont be entering the medical field anytime soon...and thats a good thing

whalewager · Oct 25, 2008

do visitors mean that your family will not be able to see the kids for the first 3 months either?

what about the first 2 days when the nurses will be handling him or her....or are you gonna do like little house on the prairie and deliver them at home? you know, back in the day when people only lived to be 40 or 45

whalewager · Oct 25, 2008

did u 2 guys have your shots?

DarrylParsons · Oct 25, 2008

georgejefferson said:
do visitors mean that your family will not be able to see the kids for the first 3 months either?

what about the first 2 days when the nurses will be handling him or her....or are you gonna do like little house on the prairie and deliver them at home? you know, back in the day when people only lived to be 40 or 45

That's correct. No grandparents, aunts, uncles until after 3 months. Until then, they'll just have to be satisfied with pictures.

First day was at a birthing center, sterilized environment. Next baby will probably be at home, though, with a midwife. We'll take a chance that the midwife won't pass on any diseases.

Main thing that killed people in the old days was poor hygiene and poor nutrition, not lack of vaccines.

Mistermj · Oct 25, 2008

fletchisrhsm said:
There is also mercury in those vaccinations as well. If you want to vaccinate a child wait until at least a few years, no reason to do it so young. And you dont need 20 of them either, that rubbish. Also, Immunizations for the first year cost at least $600+, so im not sure where you are finding the 3 dollar bargains, but i would advise you not to continue them. This kind of head scratching number is fitting as i think back to all your laughable defenses for the economey and the debt and what not. Same fuzzy math there as well.

Current vaccines provided by Capital Health Region, 2004<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=1 width=580 border=1><TBODY><TR class=bg-colour-grey><TD vAlign=top>Vaccine, distributor, no. of recommended doses</TD><TD vAlign=top>Diseases covered</TD><TD vAlign=top>Listed price for one dose</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top>Pentacel Aventis Pasteur 4 doses</TD><TD vAlign=top>Diphtheria, pertussis, tetanus, polio, H. influenzae type b </TD><TD vAlign=top>

$41.90

</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top>MMRII Merck Frosst 1 dose</TD><TD vAlign=top>Measles, mumps, rubella </TD><TD vAlign=top>

$28.43

</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top>VarivaxIII Merck Frosst 1 dose</TD><TD vAlign=top>Varicella (chicken pox) </TD><TD vAlign=top>

$67.85

</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top>Prevnar Merck Frosst 4 dose</TD><TD vAlign=top>Invasive pneumococcal disease </TD><TD vAlign=top>

$76.00

</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top>Menjugate Merck Frosst 3 doses</TD><TD vAlign=top>Invasive meningococcal serogroup C disease </TD><TD vAlign=top>

$89.00

</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top>Quadracel Aventis Pasteur 4 dose</TD><TD vAlign=top>Diphtheria, pertussis, tetanus, polio </TD><TD vAlign=top>

$28.91

</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

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