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Rich Harden is pitching in a big game tomorrow. Yes, it is only the middle of July but tomorrow he needs to go out and prove to the die-hard Cub fans that he will be the ace that he was in Oakland and lead the Cubs to the World Series for the first time since...well how long has it been anyways? So this is certainly a big start and the pressure will be on Mr. Harden tomorrow. Well Harden hasn't pitched in many big games before but consider this, in his 3 post season games his ERA is over 6 with 7 walks in 7 innings. Not too good.

But, in my opinion the most crucial factor in the changes Harden will have to deal with is the ballpark. We all know Wrigley is homerun heaven and on a given day a light fly ball to center can carry all the way out of the park. This means it will be crucial for Harden to keep the ball down. One problem, Harden is a predominantly fly ball pitcher. Wrigley makes Oakland look like the damn Polo Grounds. He has gotten more fly ball outs then ground outs in 9 of his 13 starts this year and even had games with over 10 fly balls. These balls can and will carry and may just find their way into that friendly netting in Wrigley. As if that isn't enough I was surprised whne looking at Hardens stats, which at first glance look dominating, that he has walked a lot of people in most of his starts. His 31 walks in 71 innings look good on paper but he has had starts where he has walked 3-4 guys in as little as 5 innings of work. If he is going to give the soft hitting Giants free runners in Wrigley and one of those fly balls does float out of the park Harden may get rattled a tad quicker then normal. I am also concerned that with the home fans roaring he may be trying to throw the ball through the mitt and dial it up with the juices flowing which leads to much less control which will boost those walk numbers. Not to mention 3 of his 5 road starts this year have been pretty poor this year including his last two starts. Yes, this is a home game but he will feel like he is on the road in this park. Remember Hardens is probably still adapting to the central time zone as he has played exclusivley in the west his whole career.

True the Giants don't do much hitting but they will be quite excited to try and ruin Rich Hardens start in a rare nationally televised game for them. The Cubs are a pretty safe bet at home but they have lost before at home and haven't been playing the best baseball lately.

Now we get to Kevin Correia who is essentially pitching for a job tomorrow in the starting rotation. Lets not forget Correia is capable of sneaking up on teams and has thrown some quality starts this year. He will benefit from his predominantly groundball style of pitching. Should be fun to watch this game and this is a game that the Cubs can't lose..... wait...this whole betting thing isn't that easy.

I like the Giants value tomorrow with the +1.5 and the ML of +240.

Not saying they will win, its just that value is their.
 

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Just my 2 cents, you said in the other thread his stats against the giants were to small a sample size

well you saying his post season stats are not that good is also a bit to small of a sample size, he has only started one post season game in his career, coming out of the pen in the other two.. which was his rookie year

however best of luck
 

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Just my 2 cents, you said in the other thread his stats against the giants were to small a sample size

well you saying his post season stats are not that good is also a bit to small of a sample size, he has only started one post season game in his career, coming out of the pen in the other two.. which was his rookie year

however best of luck

Yes, the post season stats were just an idea of how he does in big games considering he hasn't had many big games in his career in Oakland thats the best I could do. I feel that stats vs a given team are a tad overrated especially in this case because of the Giants-A's crosstown rivalry playing a role in the game.
 

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I wouldnt pay attention to either post season or his stats against the giants, besides the ones this year
 

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I wouldnt pay attention to either post season or his stats against the giants, besides the ones this year

Agreed. This is also a different season for Harden. He's hasn't stayed healthy this long in over 2 years. Hasn't pitched more than 50 innings since 2005. I'm not disagreeing with you, as the -250 line has ZERO value, but I don't see value in going against him when we've seen what the Cubs have done at home this year w/o him. That makes the possibility of them doing it with him very very likely as well in my book. Compared to the rest of the league, Correia rarely poses himself as a challenge to a team like the Cubs. Any game in the 200's is worthless in my opinion, it's like playing darts in the dark. Sometimes you hit a bulls eye and sometimes you hit your friend standing too close to the board.
 

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GL Whisperz - anyone can say they are on the Giants but most are just clicking the +240 box and hoping...refreshing to see someone who thinks SF will win and actually explains why

IMO anytime you see a line of -250 on a baseball game it is a waste of time to even cap the game -- you will absolutely lose betting on the fave here in the long run, you may as well play the dog or lay off (over 10 games, you will be laying 2500 to win 1000 - go 7-3 and you still lose, the very definition of non-value) -- GL to you, I'll be rooting for you as one who loves to see the underdog win in situations like this
 

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