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Patriot Games
Bush strategists may feel tempted to attack John Kerry’s opposition to Vietnam. Why it’s a battle they can’t winWEB EXCLUSIVE
By Eleanor Clift
Newsweek
Updated: 5:46 p.m. ET Jan. 30, 2004The voters don't want to refight the Vietnam war, but with John Kerry looking like the likely nominee, Vietnam returns to the front pages. Kerry is accompanied on the campaign trail by the men he served with in the Mekong Delta. "I know a little something about aircraft carriers for real," he says, in an allusion to President George W. Bush's premature "Mission Accomplished" landing last spring on the USS Abraham Lincoln.

There is another chapter to Kerry's war history that Republicans are examining, and that is his leadership in 1971 of Vietnam Veterans Against the War. Some GOP strategists envision television ads linking Kerry with Jane Fonda in order to undermine his credentials as a decorated war veteran.

Highlighting Kerry's antiwar activism is a risky strategy for the Republicans. To quote Kerry, who quotes the president: "Bring it on." If the election turns into a debate over war records, Bush can't win.


Retired general Wesley Clark was widely criticized for not objecting when left-wing activist Michael Moore called Bush a "deserter" in his presence. As a military man, Clark knows that deserting is a capital offense, reserved for those who have been court-martialed and found guilty. The charge against Bush is that he was AWOL for a year of his service in the National Guard. Once the pundits finished critiquing the impact on Clark of the presumed gaffe, the next logical question is to ask where Bush was during that year, how he got away with his absenteeism, and does it matter?

Boston Globe reporter Walter Robinson did an exhaustive study of Bush's military service, which was published in May 2000. Robinson concluded that during Bush's final 18 months in the Texas Air National Guard in 1972 and 1973, he did not fly at all and was "all but unaccounted for," with no records to indicate that he attended any of the required drills. Bush was working for a Senate campaign in Alabama for part of the time, and was supposed to appear for duty there, but never did. After the November '72 election, Bush returned to Houston, but he was a no-show there, as well.

Under the rules at the time, guardsmen who miss duty were supposed to be reported and could then be drafted. Seven months after Bush returned to Houston, two of his commanding officers filed a report noting that Bush had not been "observed" at his unit during the previous 12 months. That evidently shocked Bush into performing. Over the next three months, from May to July 1973, he spent 36 days on Guard duty, for which he was rewarded with an early discharge to attend Harvard Business School.
If Bush wants to continue to occupy Iraq, he's going to have to find some new soldiers to do the work


In his new book, "American Dynasty," author Kevin Phillips traces three generations of Bushes and the web of favoritism and influence that perpetuates the line. Phillips says it was against Navy regulations in 1942 to place 18-year-old George H.W. Bush in flight training, but the rules were bent for the son of Sen. Prescott Bush. The Los Angeles Times found a similar bending of the rules 26 years later, Phillips writes. George W. didn't qualify for either a direct commission or flight training, but he received both when he jumped several waiting lists for a coveted spot in the Texas Air National Guard.

Bush senior was a member of Congress at the time, and, according to Phillips, had a friend speak to Texas Lt. Gov. Ben Barnes about young George. Barnes in turn contacted the commander of the Texas Air National Guard, who greased the way. Direct commissions were generally reserved for doctors because the military needed flight surgeons, and expensive flight instruction was not normally given to somebody like Bush, who didn't score well on the aptitude test for pilots and who had shown no professional commitment to flying. According to Phillips, it was arranged for Bush to train on F-102 fighters, dated aircraft being phased out of service—added insurance that Bush would not go to Vietnam.

In fairness, Bush has been candid about why he enlisted in the Air National Guard. Like many young men of his generation, he wanted to avoid Vietnam. He told one reporter, "I was not prepared to shoot my eardrum out with a shotgun in order to get a deferment. Nor was I willing to go to Canada. So I chose to better myself by learning how to fly airplanes."

He has not been candid about his absences from the Guard. After the Boston Globe story broke in 2000, Bush said through a spokesman that he has "some recollection" of attending drills during the time period in question, but conceded that he was not consistent. Records unearthed by the Globe showed that Bush was removed from flight status in August 1972 for failing to take his annual flight physical. Bush aides said he didn't take the physical because his personal physician was in Houston, and he was in Alabama working on a political campaign. But that explanation didn't hold up because flight physicals must be administered by certified Air Force flight surgeons, and Bush easily could have found one at Maxwell Air Force Base in Montgomery, Ala., where he was living.

Kerry's candidacy was elevated when a former Green Beret whose life he saved showed up on the campaign trail in Iowa to attest to Kerry's courage. In addition, former Georgia senator Max Cleland, who lost three limbs in Vietnam and was defeated in 2002 after GOP attacks on his patriotism, appears regularly with Kerry. Bush can't match that. If he's smart, he won't try.

© 2004 Newsweek, Inc.
 

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This cowardly bastard reminds me of Saddam hiding in that rat hole.
 

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i really wish you and i could meet face-to-face, then we would see who the TRUE coward really is!

what a babbling, moronic, pussy!
what a waste of everyone's time -- reading your doltish gerrymanderings is two minutes of my life i'll never get back!

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Hansen, I am a real Viet Nam Vet, and have seen both heroes and cowards. I doubt very seriously anyone who uses words like "dotish gerrymandering" would have survied more than a week in country, never mind prove any combat vet a coward.

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intellect and tougness are NOT antithetical; rest assure i am very cofident of both.
combat vet's should show a little more respect for the president of this country, and if they don't/won't i'll respectfully do what their daddy's should've done when they were growing up.

gl

ps. thank you for your service.

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Hansen,
Don't pretend you're intelligent or tough. Your grammar speaks for itself, and the toughest men I've even encountered are the ones that keep the "tough guy" talk to themselves -- much less post about it
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I've met hundreds of fuks like you that talk the talk ... still haven't been whooped.
 

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That said ...

The Cowardly "Lyin'" George still hasn't fought, still doesn't debate opposition and is still "leading" two wars.
 

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grammar??? you truly are a moron.

sir, NO MORE talk -- i live in minneaplois, mn --ever in town???

perhaps, i should come to you -- where do you live?

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Congratulations, you 'sir' are the single most idiotic poster that I have ever encountered.

I'm in NY stupid. Feel free to visit - a little cultural experience would do some good to an ignorant lemming like yourself.
 

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if you have the courage i would really like to meet you, like two gentleman, and discuss a few things. infrequently, i go to ny on business. what part -- specifically.

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i have to leave -- i will be back in the morn to continue this.

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listen to yourself . . . you sound really silly guy, threatening to travel to far off cities to beat up some guy that disagrees with you on the internet.
 

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Hansen's just a little upset because his commander in thief is gonna be hitting the deck real soon...and hard.
 

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Actually I find this Hansen Bros/Lander argument very amusing. Why don't we get several posters together and have them all put up a few dollars, and arrange for Hansen and Lander to actually fight!!! Seriously, it would be fun. Hansen is in Minneapolis and Lander is in New York City, so we could have them meet on neutral ground in like Cleveland or something. Of course, I'd be willing to bet money that Lander either wouldn't show, or he'd hire some really tough guy to pretend he was Lander and go kick Hansen's ass.

I'll never understand why people make these threats to each other on the internet and then do nothing to back it up. You guys should actually get together and throw hands, god knows Hansen would have it coming for the way he talks to Lander, and Lander would have it coming for the way he talks to anyone who doesn't agree with him.
 

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"I'll never understand why people make these threats to each other on the internet and then do nothing to back it up."

Posted by hansen - "i really wish you and i could meet face-to-face, then we would see who the TRUE coward really is!"

Posted by hansen - "sir, NO MORE talk -- i live in minneaplois, mn --ever in town???

perhaps, i should come to you -- where do you live?
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Sj,
While it's refreshing to see you forming your OWN opinions for a change it would still be in everyone's best interest if you actually read the 13 posts prior to yours instead of fabricating random crap and passing it off as fact. I know that's what the Bush administration has taught the American people, but surely even you must realize that doesn't make it anymore of a reality than, say, WMD.

What's odd is that none of the sheepish followers of genocidal George have actually commented on the article. I've seen a few of these clowns critize Kerry and Clark for their military service, but ironically have no issue with Bush evading the war in a manner that would have had most of us dishonerably discharged. Equally fasinating is that none of you have issue with this same coward later starting two genocidal wars in which he can have other people's children murdered.

He is the epitomy of a spineless cowardly rich kid with too much power. He represents EXACTLY what is wrong with American free-enterprise and imperialism. Most war evading alcoholic coke-head murderers would be in prision and would have NO chance of even getting a job at McDonald's when they were evenutally released - this coward is handed an opportunity to steal a presidency.

It is an embarrassment to call this 'man' the President.

[This message was edited by lander on February 02, 2004 at 09:33 AM.]
 

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More proof that Bush is a P.O.S.
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It's interesting how Lander can make the statement that this same coward later starting two genocidal wars in which he can have other people's children murdered.
and yet in another post he says about the Afghan war No I believe that war was just as it was a retaliation

Let's see we have a genocidal war in one post and a just retaliation in another...makes sense to me!!

Thank God rabid anti-Bush views like this are the minority. Four more years coming up Lander...better learn to live with it.
 

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Senditin,
Are you too ashamed of you cowardly leader to address the factual article?

Do it make you proud to know that our Commander in Chief is a war evading coward? How would you tell your son that he should fight for Bush, when Bush was too afraid to fight for America?
 

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i'm back!!! had to do a little super sunday handicappin' (the origin of this forum -- in case you didn't know????), but now i'm back and anxious to meet you, you son of a bitch. so where do we go from here mr. communist?

as for your article, was that describing clinton??? the man that inexplicably bombs aspirin factories to cover-up his egregious desecration of the office and the judicial system. meanwhile, dodging the draft decades prior????

and long-face kerry, the man who is responsible for killing more soldiers in vietnam with his disingenuous antiwar protests, than were killed in both afghanistan and iraq twice over.

you really are a misguided, twisted soul. you should really put the bong down, get a job, and be somewhat productive -- for yourself, your family (if they even claim you???) , and this country.

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Yo Hansen,

I'll go along grudgingly with the Clinton insult, but Kerry costing lives after he served there? That's a bigger stretch than Barbra Bush's girdle.

By that logic, Nixon must be one of all time traitors for abandoning Viet Nam war effort.

And as far as implied threats to Lander, chill man, the forum is a placed to have fun and relieve stress, not create it.
 

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