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I know that gambling winnings can be offset by gambling losses for tax purposes. My question is about expenses which would include such things as the Daily Racing Form, printouts, paper ink cartridges and things along this line.

Is it only the actual losses itself that can be deducted that can be claimed against winnings?
 

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Those all are valid business expenses. As well as Don Best fees, ISP fees, etc.
Just make sure and save all receipts and invoices.
 

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Thanks Brewster: But "valid business expenses". That would say I am in the business of gambling, which I certaintly am not in the business sense of the word.

It was just a thought anyway. (My credit card receipt would clearly show that I bought the item/s)
 

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The only way you can take off expenses directly on your tax return is if you declare yourself a PROFESSIONAL GAMBLER. A much easier way, and will not draw the attention of the IRS, is to just figure your expenses into your losses gambling and enter them into your dairy......say under ROULETTE LOSSES or whatever gambling activity you do not pursue. This will help your own records in that your the only one knows that the ROULETTE losses are actually EXPENSE loses....but the IRS never has to know that. Remember, you can only deduct losses up to the extent of your winnings. PREPARING A DAIRY FOR YOUR EVERYDAY GAMBLING ENDEAVEARS IS A MUST!!!!!!!! This serves two purposes.....one for the IRS......and one to monitor your own gambling success or failures.
At the end of the year add up all your gambling wins....this will be high, but you will be deducting your losses too. I have had years where I have reported over TWO million in winnings so dont worry about it. Then deduct your losses for as much as you want UP TO THOSE WINNINGS.......This will be your NET WIN FROM GAMBLING. There are some TERRIFIC underlying advantages to do your taxes this way if you have other business sidelines (especially in another states), are trying to prove income for a large loan, etc.,etc.,etc., which are to numerous to mention here and are different for each individual. Any other questions I will be happy to answer. I consider myself quite knowledgeable in this field, since I have been a professional gambler for quite some time. Good luck.
 

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strut888, have you been audited since filing as a pro gambler? To report 2 mil in winnings and then wipe most of it out with gambling losses would raise a red flag with the IRS.(I would think)
 

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I think there is a max of like $3000 that you can claim in loss? I am not sure of this someone who knows more about it might be able to elaborate.
 

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"Professional Gambler": To the IRS that like sound like a bookie!

Anyway for me it was a Pick 3 ticket that I hit on the Horse Races for $2100. (They made me sign witholding form which claimed it as taxable for the IRS.) They did not take out any taxes, but I had lost and KEPT the loosing ticket for the year which totaled more than that amount. But I was thinking supposed I hit a BIG ONE--Like a Pick 6 for 100K. What could I claim as deductions, besides loosing tickets? That probably will never happen anyway. But seems a bit unfair --Racing Forms , etc can add up dollarwise.
 

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Tekari, you're wrong. Think about it. strut888 won 2 mil during one year. What sense would it make if he could only deduct 3 grand in losses?
 

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teraki........ i know you can claim 3,000.00 in losses in the stock market every year ..
 

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You can claim $3000 in losses with the market but for gambling purposes, you can only claim your losses to the extent of your winnings.
 

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If I were to do it 100% by the book this is how my bookkeeping would come out. If I had made a net profit of $50,000 for the year and I declared 2,000,000 in winnings that would mean I would be deducting 1,950,000. You can do this by NOT declaring yourself a professional gambler and can be done by just keeping a VERY detailed diary that includes dates, events,machines, won or lost figures, etc.

Like I said, I consider myself to be pretty knowledgable in this area......but lots of the information is not meant to be put in a public forum. Maybe I will see you in a casino one day or at your local watering hole and we can discuss things in great detail more.
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Sixth Sense:
You can claim $3000 in losses with the market but for gambling purposes, you can only claim your losses to the extent of your winnings.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Stock losses. If you have stock trading losses exceedig your gains, you may deduct the full value of your gains and up to an additional $3,000 of your loss. Any remaining loss is called a "tax loss carryforward" and may be deducted $3,000 per year until fully used.

Various tax bills have been toying with the idea of increasing this to an amount above $3M/year since the stock market has been taking it hard up the ass the last few.

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assassin - That's what I meant to say. I should have clarified you can carry those losses forward. Thanks.
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Sixth Sense:
You can claim $3000 in losses with the market but for gambling purposes, you can only claim your losses to the extent of your winnings.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

No problem 6th. All here to help.
By the way, gambling losses must be an itemized deduction while the winnings are part of your AGI. If you don't itemize, you can't claim any gambling deductions against your winnings.
 

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