Furloughs

[tiznow]

Heard of it for the first time yesterday

Was talking with somebody last night and he said his employer was instituting furloughs for a 4 week period in which they don't work for the 4 weeks and don't get paid but here is the catch during those 4 weeks he can collect ue benefits so basically we the taxpayer are allowing companies to axe costs while workers sit around and do nothing for 4 weeks just insane all these loopholes they have now

 

[tiznow]

Although I guess you could see it as the worker getting taxed less in that he's getting some taxes back during that 4 week period

But the end result is more gov spending less tax revenue coming in and less economicproductivity as the worker isn't working for 4 weeks

Over the long haul unsustainable and digs us into a deeper hole

 

[mplastered]

Heard of it for the first time yesterday

Was talking with somebody last night and he said his employer was instituting furloughs for a 4 week period in which they don't work for the 4 weeks and don't get paid but here is the catch during those 4 weeks he can collect ue benefits so basically we the taxpayer are allowing companies to axe costs while workers sit around and do nothing for 4 weeks just insane all these loopholes they have now

Sounds like a layoff to me.

 

[tiznow]

Nope even still has 3 weeks paid vacation still

So has 7 weeks paid vacation for the year

3 paid by company 4 paid by ue

Works 40 hour weeks like he normally would the other 45 weeks

 

[Willie99]

Heard of it for the first time yesterday

Was talking with somebody last night and he said his employer was instituting furloughs for a 4 week period in which they don't work for the 4 weeks and don't get paid but here is the catch during those 4 weeks he can collect ue benefits so basically we the taxpayer are allowing companies to axe costs while workers sit around and do nothing for 4 weeks just insane all these loopholes they have now

well, companies do fund the state run unemployment program, and their rates increase if they lay people off.

not exactly the taxpayers money

 

[tiznow]

Well wherever its coming from in the end its just delay tactics

he's in an industry that is in deep deep shit and expects his job won't be around too much longer and thinking about the future

 

[Dave007inVegas]

That’s actually nice of the company to work it that way. He can collect right from the beginning and doesn't have to wait till he exhausted any vacation, severance and the like. He can then go back, work four weeks and start the process all over again. Some businesses do care about their workers.

 

[Willie99]

That’s actually nice of the company to work it that way. He can collect right from the beginning and doesn't have to wait till he exhausted any vacation, severance and the like. He can then go back, work four weeks and start the process all over again. Some businesses do care about their workers.

it's also a good way for business to cut costs and to try to keep their employees employed.

business that are struggling or are slower than usual should close for things like the week of July 4th and the week after Christmas.

Employees can collect and enjoy time with their families while very little business is conducted during those periods anyways.

Other options, across the board pay cuts, reduce the work week to four days and rotating furloughs.

Spreading the pain and keeping everybody in the game while retaining key employees.

 

[punter]

Sorta entrepreneurial welfare. All our rightys are for it.

 

[Willie99]

the unemployment insurance fund in all 50 states is almost entirely funded by employers, with a very small % in very few states being funded by employees.

Since we've already established in another thread the reasons why most small businesses tend to be owned by Republicans, it looks like another example of Republicans funding another program to benefit the Democratic base, eh?

 

[punter]

the unemployment insurance fund in all 50 states is almost entirely funded by employers, with a very small % in very few states being funded by employees.

Since we've already established in another thread the reasons why most small businesses tend to be owned by Republicans, it looks like another example of Republicans funding another program to benefit the Democratic base, eh?

Depends on your point of view. The employees are due the money anyway. The business owner by calling it a Furlough stops most from finding another job thereby screwing all the other employers paying in. Yep, just a republican way of doing things.

 

[Willie99]

LOL

Punter worried about the employers now, even when it benefits the employees. That good ole leftie two step

employees are not "entitled" to the money anyhow

and

employees can choose to look for any job they want whenever they want

 

[punter]

Unemployment insurance is not an entitlement?

I am not a fan of anyone gaming the system but the way you guys seem to think it ok when they are the business owner is sickening.

 

[Willie99]

Using a program for what it was intended to be used for and which you make contributions to is sickening?



man, you should hold your own values to such standards

sickening is thinking you have entitlements to others' assets without making any contribution of any kind what so ever.

employers participating in a self-insurance fund is nothing like what you think it is.

Again, this one thinks that the people creating jobs are the evil ones.

 

[mplastered]

Depends on your point of view. The employees are due the money anyway. The business owner by calling it a Furlough stops most from finding another job thereby screwing all the other employers paying in. Yep, just a republican way of doing things.

I swear, the more posts of yours I read, the more I'm convinced you're sitting in a mental institution, in a straight jacket, typing with your nose. You bitch about every subject on here, and very, very seldom make any sense.^^ You've got to be the most negative minded idiot on here. Now you're mad about unemployment? Go smoke a joint and mellow out!!!

 

[snoop]

Yeah... "loopholes" are there. It's up to you whether or not to take advantages of them. No wrongdoing here.

 

[TomGshotput]

Unemployment is privately funded insurance. If employers were not required to pay into it, they would be able to pay workers more and the workers would have more savings when they lose their income. While I disagree with the system, taking advantage of it is simply a way of getting money you already earned