From an ex general in Saddams army and now PM.(stick it up your ass Tom Brokaw)

[PatPatriot]

Tuesday, June 29, 2004 11:26 p.m. EDT
Brokaw Raps Iraqi PM for Linking Saddam to 9/11

NBC "Nightly News" anchorman Tom Brokaw was so dismayed Tuesday night when Iraqi Prime Minister Iyad Allawi linked Saddam Hussein to the 9/11 attacks that he actually reprimanded him during his interview.

When Brokaw asked the new Iraqi leader if he could "understand why many Americans feel that so many young men and women have died here for purposes other than protecting the United States?" Dr. Allawi responded:

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"We know that this is an extension to what has happened in New York. And the war [has] been taken out to Iraq by the same terrorists. Saddam was a potential friend and partner and natural ally of terrorism."
Plainly miffed that Dr. Allawi hadn't accepted the U.S. media's attempt to cover-up links between Saddam, al Qaida and 9/11, Brokaw reprimanded him as cameras rolled:

"Prime minister, I’m surprised that you would make the connection between 9/11 and the war in Iraq. The 9/11 commission in America says there is no evidence of a collaborative relationship between Saddam Hussein and those terrorists of al-Qaida."

But Dr. Allawi refused to back down, telling the top TV anchor:

"No. I believe very strongly that Saddam had relations with al-Qaida. And these relations started in Sudan. We know Saddam had relationships with a lot of terrorists and international terrorism. Now, whether he is directly connected to the September atrocities or not, I can’t vouch for this. But definitely I know he has connections with extremism and terrorists."

In December Dr. Allawi commented on a recently discovered Iraqi intelligence document placing lead 9/11 hijacker Mohamed Atta in Baghdad two months before the attacks.

"We are uncovering evidence all the time of Saddam's involvement with al-Qaeda," he told the London Telegraph. "But this is the most compelling piece of evidence that we have found so far. It shows that not only did Saddam have contacts with al-Qaeda, he had contact with those responsible for the September 11 attacks."

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[DroptheChalupa]

because Tom B won't push the same lies you do? Do you ever experience any emotions other than hate and anger? I've never seen you post anything here that wasn't about those.

 

[Oceans11]

The CIA and American Intelligence had a ton of direct involvement with Islamic extremists and their opponents over the years, they're as responsible as anyone for the islamic monster that has been created.

Twenty years ago America was licking Saddams butt-hole as he fought the Iranians and the spread of Islamic extremism.

Meanwhile the Taliban-Muhajadeen (Islamic extremists) were getting sams and various kit from the US in Afghanistan.

You fed the chaos for years, and now there's no-one left except them and you.

Because there's no-one left to 'outsource' the war and chaos to anymore, you really only have your own people to do the job now.

As far as you average Ismamic dude is concerned the US is only there to cause trouble, and the celebrations won't start until the US is gone.

And then they'll go back to squabbling with each other...

 

[Redneckman]

Chalupa, are you Rodney King??

 

[PatPatriot]

Push the same lies? Are you saying that this Allawi is a liar and Moore is not a liar?
Of the two only one of them has been caught redhanded in a lie.
Who the fxck is Tom Brokaw to call Allawi a liar??Whats he know?Allawi just disputes what the 9/11 has said and by what I read school is still out on al Q and Saddam.
What you hate is facts but believe amnipulation of facts by Fat boy.

 

[PatPatriot]

Oh eek your a freak....Jesus alway with the tinfoil hat conspiracies.

 

[PatPatriot]

eek that fxckin argument so lame, if the US didn't "conspire" with Stalin in WW2 your name would probably be Fritz.

 

[Oceans11]

WW2..?? Gies a break.

Once you had finally pissed off out of SE Asia they finally had the chance to sort things out amongst themselves and the world trundled onwards in that region.

We got the nutters and the local conflicts but eventually a status quo was achieved in SE Asia.

30 years later and the place is relatively stable.
Thats with zero US interference and zero US $$ expenditure.

The US wasted an un-fuxxing-believable amount of resources in SE Asia, and it never changed diddly-shit as far as those societies were concerned.

I believe that your huge military needs these stupid pointless conflicts to justify the obscene amount of money that it consumes.

And in 10-20 years your military will un-ass the middle east, having yet again changed absolutely diddly-shit, but consumed vast amounts of cash, and then the locals will fight each other until a new, proper status quo is established in the region.

 

[xpanda]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Patriot:
Push the same lies? Are you saying that this Allawi is a liar and Moore is not a liar?
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

One need never have heard of or seen Moore's movie to understand the political posturing that emanates from Allawi et al.

At any rate, I sincerely hope that the mess in Iraq straightens itself out insofar as reducing the number of deaths is concerned. Then Bush and Buds can take their cash back to the homeland and leave these innocent people alone. Of course, that's not going to happen as long as the neo-con agenda of international reform remains popular among the arrogant.

 

[American]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Patriot:
Plainly miffed that Dr. Allawi hadn't accepted the U.S. media's attempt to cover-up links between Saddam, al Qaida and 9/11, Brokaw reprimanded him as cameras rolled:

"Prime minister, I’m surprised that you would make the connection between 9/11 and the war in Iraq. The 9/11 commission in America says there is no evidence of a collaborative relationship between Saddam Hussein and those terrorists of al-Qaida."

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I love how liberals take the most complicated of situations and try to find one bit of information and use that to "trump" any and all other viewpoints. Brokaw will be walking around saying "the 9/11 commision says there's no link" until he sounds like a parrot. Others go around saying there hasn't been any WMD, like that's all you need to know.

I'll never look at the media the same after all the spin they put on our war against these Islamic extremists. They've got a lot of people walking around in a daze, self-loathing and trying to sympathize with Islamic extremism at this point.

[This message was edited by American on June 30, 2004 at 11:01 AM.]

 

[American]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by xpanda:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Patriot:
Push the same lies? Are you saying that this Allawi is a liar and Moore is not a liar?
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Then Bush and Buds can take their cash back to the homeland and leave these innocent people alone.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Who the **** is innocent over there? The insurgents? Maybe the assholes that will beheading the three Turks any moment? The "innocents" want us there to protect them from the onslaught of these Islamic fruitcakes who are trying to rule by the gun.

 

[Oceans11]

I disagree.

Liberals are more pragmatic.

The Afghanistan invasion was ok with Liberals after the 9/11 incident.
If they attack you, you bomb them.

But then the right-wing fantasists in the white house decided to 'change the world' into a new order. OMFG.

Its GWB and his cronies that need the tinfoil hats.

 

[PatPatriot]

American,exactley. Every rule has an exception yet they always run with the exception like its the rule...Its always negative gloom and doom from dusk till dawn...Everything Bush does is a conspiracy, except they never see conspiracies of the one who conspire daily to kill us.
All I know is that there haven't been any major terroist attacks on the US,since 9/11 and thats all I care about,and I really don't care what it takes to keep it that way.

 

[PatPatriot]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> I disagree.

Liberals are more pragmatic.

The Afghanistan invasion was ok with Liberals after the 9/11 incident.
If they attack you, you bomb them <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

BULLSHIT!!!....the libs in this country were dead against going to afghanistan...NY Times and the other lefty outlets were taliking "quagmire" a week into action against the Taliban in afghan.
But now that has worked out or atleast bettered the situation they embrace like it was their idea or somthing.

What I never here is getting caught up in a quagmire of diplomacy while buildings and people are being fallen and killed...or waht I like to call paralysis by analysis.
Pragmatic my ass!

 

[jointpleasures]

American, your so right.
The press and demi's must be happy with their ruthless effort to ruin our president during a period of war. If Bush were to start dropping some big bombs, and I mean REAL big bombs on Iran and Syria tomorrow, I think the democrats would finally give up their feckless fight and the partisan press would have less channels to spew their puke. They have nothing left.
The war on terror is just beginning and Bush is relentless if nothing else!

"KEEP THE COWBOY 2004"

 

[PatPatriot]

Pragmatic...While their stroking and stealing and being pragmatic at the UN today how many 10's of thousand are dying today in the sudan.

 

[xpanda]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by American:

Who the **** is innocent over there? The insurgents? Maybe the assholes that will beheading the three Turks any moment? The "innocents" want us there to protect them from the onslaught of these Islamic fruitcakes who are trying to rule by the gun.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

1. insurgent - a person who takes part in an armed rebellion against the constituted authority (especially in the hope of improving conditions)

The 'constitued authority' in this instance are the American occupiers, who, in case you were watching, dropped a series of bombs on thousands of innocent people. Unless, of course, you share the view that every Iraqi is a potential terrorist who was born hating America and the freedom it stands for.

I will try not to comment on the irony of 'islamic fruitcakes who are trying to rule by the gun.'

Fighting for peace is like fücking for virginity.

 

[American]

Originally posted by xpanda:
The 'constitued authority' in this instance are the American occupiers, who, in case you were watching, dropped a series of bombs on thousands of innocent people.
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If you want to go that route, then I'll say that Saddam would have killed far more of his own innocent people than stray American bombs have. And what people are innocent that allow a psychopath like that to rule in the first place? (Please don't come back with Bush is a psychopath too and that it's SOOOOO ironic...that's getting old.)

 

[xpanda]

What people are innocent that allow a psychopath like that to rule in the first place?

What the fück kind of leap in logic is that statement?

 

[Benassflick]

Patriot your wrong----- As Usual