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Saturday, May 29, 2004 5:09 p.m. EDT
Al Qaida Takes Hostages in Saudi Attack

Al Qaida is claiming credit for an attack Saturday morning in the Saudi Arabian city of Khobar in which sixteen foreign oil workers, including one American, were killed and up to 50 taken hostage.

"They are holding 50 foreign hostages," a manager at the Oasis housing compound told Reuters. "There are Americans, but there are more Italians. There are also Arabs."

A witness told Reuters that the attackers were wearing military uniforms. They demanded that residents to show their identity cards to find out their religions. "(The terrorists) were asking people if they were Christian or Muslims," he explained. The Muslims were released.

An American, a Briton, an Egyptian, two Filipinos, an Indian and a Pakistani were reportedly killed in the attack, along with two Saudi civilians and seven security force members, the security sources said. The U.S. embassy confirmed one American was killed.

Militants reportedly tied the body of the British employee of Arab oil firm Apicorp to a car and dragged it through the streets for more than a mile.

The attack is the second in a month to target Saudi oil production facilities. U.S. ambassador James C. Oberwetter urged Americans to leave Saudi Arabia after a May 1 terrorist attack on the oil facility at Yanbu that killed five Westerners, including an American, whose body was mutilated.

At a May 3 meeting that reporters weren't allowed to attend, witnesses said Oberwetter's message was clear: We cannot protect you here.

At the time, Saudi officials protested Oberwetter's advice to leave.
 

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Pat,

That's bad fvckin' news all the way around. However, it's a stretch to pin it on liberals.

You probably wanna go bacl and blame it on inaction ofn clinton and USS Cole, I say Reagan and Lebanon just as bad...

Bottom line is I can't see connection between this and liberals, Seems like a stretch.
 

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Read some of the post by some of these guys and won't think its a stretch.

What you say is correct goes back to Reagan...When they strt knocking down buildings and killing thousands in in Manhattan,then its time to clean it up.

All these people worry about soldiers getting killed in the mideast is sad, but thats what soldiers do, so civilians in NYC don't...say what you want about Ashcroft and Bush but since 9/11 no attacks on US soil and thats all I give a shit about.Fxck the rest of the world...they fxcked us now they can take care of their freedom mooching selves.
 

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More likely to be Republican/Neo-con 'friends'.


They feed off each others hate, intolerances and fear, in a symbiotic relationship that both sides need if they are to flourish.
 

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Actually Pat last rumor I heard was bush2 having close personal ties to Bin Ladden.
 

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"All these people worry about soldiers getting killed in the mideast is sad, but thats what soldiers do, so civilians in NYC don't"

So what are we wasting man-power and money in Iraq for if we're after the culprits of 9-11?
And what about bush2/administration ignoring proof that 9-11 was going to happen?

The arguement's getting old and boring and the more you conservs grasp at straws the more so. We shouldn't have gone to Iraq, it's cluster phuck, bush2's mess, just admit it then you can at least continue to support him in good conscience.

Libs at least admit their leader's short comings (Clinton was a liar for example), you conservs just continue to blindly support your leaders even after, in some cases, they themselves have admitted being wrong.
 

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Originally posted by kaya man:
The arguement's getting old and boring and the more you conservs grasp at straws the more so. We shouldn't have gone to Iraq, it's cluster phuck, bush2's mess, just admit it then you can at least continue to support him in good conscience.
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Your's is the arguement that is getting old and boring. We've been over there for more than a year now and are trying to get it ready for a hand-over June 30. Kaya...you're still harping over whether or not we should have went into Iraq. Isn't it a little late in the day for that?
 

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Look at what this has cost us and what it's done to our international image, there's still plenty to talk about! The next person to get into office is basically have to go to the U.N. and say look we're really very very sorry and embarrassed about the last dumb ass but...

"June 30" Lol you really think that'll be the end of it???

My arguement isn't old it's the truth we shouldn't have gone (gone by the way is the past participle of go, "we should have went", nice English). What's old is conservs still trying to justify the mistake.
 

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Kaya...Look what it has done for the image of th rest of the world...Same whiny foreigners bitching about blood for oil....are the only ones with blood for oil on their hands.

June 30, its theirs and they can have it as far as I'm concerned of course the violence will continue as long as the radical ragheads are not in power.
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by kaya man:
Look at what this has cost us and what it's done to our international image, there's still plenty to talk about! The next person to get into office is basically have to go to the U.N. and say look we're really very very sorry and embarrassed about the last dumb ass but...

"June 30" Lol you really think that'll be the end of it???

My arguement isn't old it's the truth we shouldn't have gone (gone by the way is the past participle of go, "we should have went", nice English). What's old is conservs still trying to justify the mistake.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

You sound like a broken record...We were wrong....We were wrong. Whatever. What I'm saying is that everyone is trying to move forward with this situation, except the scumbags over there that are still trying to rule by the gun. Will it end June 30? No, but the situation could get a lot better with the hand-over. Don't expect anything to end. Life isn't like that. You never get to spike the ball.
 

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"Kaya...Look what it has done for the image of th rest of the world...Same whiny foreigners bitching about blood for oil....are the only ones with blood for oil on their hands."

Whiny? Hmmm, see if 4 guys are beating down a friend of mine for no apparent reason and I help that's the right thing to do. But on the other hand if one guy is kicking my friend's ass because my friend grabbed his wife's ass staying out of it is also the right thing to do, not whiny.
Our government made up reasons to go to Iraq there was no reason for any foreigners to support us.

Now I see, Pat, that as is typically conserv you have trouble seeing the importance of our international rep. Here's the deal bush2 has pushed us backwards on that aspect, we're coming off as more insolent, disrespectful, arrogant and bullying than we have in a while. Some brush that off as unimportant, the reason it actually is important is the following. Globalization is here, some people don't accept it, but that's a viewpoint, reality is globalization, and it gets bigger not smaller. That makes the way others look at us more important in itself but it goes further. As things stand now China is expected to be the next super power at some point in the future, now clearly what's a better position to be in some day when we are no longer the strongest nation, an active member of the global community or the pompus bastards that tried to tell the world what to do?
By the way, I noticed that you convieniently dodged the first part of the question about what this fiasco has cost us economically, oh well we'll just let our great great grand children worry about paying off the debt huh?


"You sound like a broken record...We were wrong....We were wrong. Whatever. "

A broken record??? I've barely mentioned how we shouldn't have gone since we got involved, sure I did talk plenty about how we shouldn't go before it happened. Since then I've mostly talked about how the situation has gotten worse and worse and how much we need to look for a realistic way out. My point was that I'm so sick of the conservs here still trying to some how justify bush2's actions, just admit it was a mistake already. I mean come on seriously how many Clinton supporters have you heard saying, naw she didn't really give him head. I guess I'm just trying to say that being a little more in tune with reality might give you a little more credibility.

Now this comment is interesting...

"What I'm saying is that everyone is trying to move forward with this situation,"

...who and how?
You do realize that thanks to dumb-ya we're screwed right? If we just leave them hanging now, we are in effect seeding a whole generation of U.S.A. haters how many little terrorist do you think will spring up out of that. There was a reason for bailing out Japan after we destroyed them you know.

This one{s interesting too...

"except the scumbags over there that are still trying to rule by the gun."

... you realize that currently we rule Iraq by the gun (and a little torture) right? I hope you weren't directing that comment at U.S. G.I.'s.

As far as this...

"No, but the situation could get a lot better with the hand-over. Don't expect anything to end. Life isn't like that. You never get to spike the ball."

Yeah it could possibly get better, depending on who's taking control what kind of government is being established, infrastructure, stability, safety, etc. However without outside influence it's more likely to fall into anarchy. You are right though on not expecting anything to end, I most certainly don't, we can expect reprecussion from bush2's irresponsible actions for years to come.
 

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