for those of you that spend hours capping..

[sumday]

Remember that thread awhile back when people confessed how they regretted spending so many hours capping, watching and stressing over games. Wasted time and neglected their kids and wives etc?

That's all I'm talking about.

I'm single(seeing a couple girls but nothing exclusive) and a student and bumming around all summer. Nobody looking after me and nobody to take care of. If I had a family, I would not spend hours a day capping, or wasting money paying touts for picks and stuff like that.

I'm not accusing anybody in particular, just saying that it's a waste especially if you have a family. Those guys that made those confessions sounded so depressed and regrettful. I wouldn't want to make those mistakes.

 

[budlight]

for me,
depending on the game or how much im wagering i dont mind paying for someone elses expert picks. if they have a good track record or are on a hot streak its worth it for me to pay them $20 and not waste my time on all the research (or just pay 100 for the month depends on what sport and when)

but when i do all the research myself i usually spend bout an hour to 2 hours and to me my time is worth more than 10 an hour

but occasionally it is fun do some analyzing trends and stats yourself

 

[sumday]

Chacun son gout, or whatever the french saying is. To each his own.

I guess everybody has their own opinions. It seems everybody on this site has their own way of doing things.

My opinion is still that spending hours a day, everyday is too much but for those that do, hope it pays off.

Also, as I said, I don't agree with paying for picks but I can see what you are saying about spending a measly 20 bucks for a pick. It makes sense.

 

[sumday]

The funniest thing is when a guy spends 6 hours capping, and he calls it ''investing'' to act sophisticated ends up having a losing day and I end up having a winning day having spent only 15 mins or so.

Even if we both come out equal, he still wasted a whole day ''capping'' to get the same result I got to.

 

[billhill999]

How many times have you told us how much of a winner you are in this thread?

Is the real purpose of this thread is "look at me, I am great"?

 

[sumday]

How many times have you told us how much of a winner you are in this thread?

Is the real purpose of this thread is "look at me, I am great"?

Actually no, you are missing something. I am just trying to make a point to this dense poster who says one should spend 6 hours a day capping a game. It's absurd. Just rubbing in a point for him. Give me a break. This clown tells me I shouldn't care about my favorite teams and if I don't spend 6 hours a day capping I shouldn't be gambling. What a crock.

 

[billhill999]

OK then, sorry for accusing you of being an attention whore.
Me? I spend 90 minutes a day max on bases.

I am 9-2-1 in my last 12 over the past 2 weeks, plus 100* give or take for the season.

 

[sumday]

OK then, sorry for accusing you of being an attention whore.
Me? I spend 90 minutes a day max on bases.

I am 9-2-1 in my last 12 over the past 2 weeks, plus 100* give or take for the season.

90 mins is totally reasonable. My argument was with a guy that tells me 6 hours a day is what is needed otherwise one shouldn't be gambling.

Anyways, that's my point, people like yourself are winning, doing very well and spending 90 mins max you said? That's what I'm talking about. 6 hours a day is preposterous.

 

[billhill999]

First thing I do is take 10 minutes looking at lines that appear out of whack to me, lines that Joe Square wager on without thinking because it 'looks too good to be true'.
Joe Square is wrong between 55 to 60 percent of the times in said games, most recently all those that faded the Brewers at home with Gallardo the other day.
Then I break down the days card for about 30 minutes, I look for certain things, such as when a team scores double digit runs in a night game, it is proven about 62 percent of the time that team will not cover the total the next game, especially if their next game is a day game.
Also, an elite pitcher who is on a three game slide, chances are better than even his next start will be solid.
A handicapper should already know about teams bullpen in late June and should not spend more than 5 minutes to handicap that, a solid 'capper should just take a look at the recent box score to know what reliever is available for the up coming game, for instance, if Rivera or Nathan or whoever went 2 innings to save or hold a game last night, one could conclude he is not available.

And to the poster who said interleague sucks, I can't cap it, what's not to 'cap? Find out if an AL team is playing in an NL park, does that NL teams have a pitcher that can hit .250, if so there is an edge right there............
I could spend more time in this post then I do looking at todays card............

 

[geeze]

I spend the first two hours of the day getting out of bed.

 

[ScottL]

Some people like to spend 6 hours capping which effects only themselves. Others like to spend 7 hours arguing and boring everyone else to death. And become so unstrung they end up having a mod have to edit and delete several of their, "Daddy, he hit me first!" posts. To each his own......

 

[wilheim]

My 2 cents.

Time spent capping is an individual preference and should be guaged only by success aka bottom line on a seasonal basis. If you can do well picking winners in 15 minutes a day more power to ya. I need more time than most because of the method I use to analyze a game.

Handicapping horses can be time consuming, not to mention very difficult to beat because of the havy vig taken out of each pool. Strictly recreational for me as are all casino games. I play them as hard as they can be played to reduce the house edge but in the long run no one beats casino games that are on the square over a long period of time.

With baseball I try to identify pitchers that I expect to perform well in a particular start and on the other hand pitchers who after analysis look like they should get roughed up. A lot more goes into an individual game such as a team's bullpen - is it rested or overworked. Other items like venue, day/night, key player availability (although with major stars that will show up in the line if say an Albert Pulhols or Hanley Ramirez is out for some reason).

Basketball, hockey and football are different stories and require again IMO a different capping stratedgy. All three require imo watching a lot of games to evaluate how teams are playing as teams because there is no key position like a starting pitcher (quarterback comes closest, then goaltenders) to handicap in those sports.

Everyone has their own style or method but I truly believe there are no shortcuts to being a sucessful capper, you have to do the work or just follow someone.


Best of luck to all, wil.

 

[TomGshotput]

My thoughts:
capping each individual game shouldn't take very much time at all. Check a few stats and see if their is an edge
studying the how and why of each market and their efficiencies and inefficiencies is what makes the difference

 

[ScottL]

Scott you know better than to post a reply like that. Please ignore threads started by Sumday if you cannot be civil. This thread was fine until it was hijacked.


Thank you, wilheim

 

[sumday]

I guess the second issue raised that is sort of relevant to time spent capping is paying for picks.

I said I don't agree with paying for picks and I maintain that. However, I understand now why some people would pay for picks after somebody explained it to me.

It makes sense to pay for picks when you don't have time or would rather pay 20 bucks or so to a good capper and have the free time for yourself. 20 or 30 dollars or whatever is well worth it to save time which is very valuable.

 

[ScottL]

Wil, with all due respect this thread was started as a taunt toward me by sumday in response to another thread. I left it alone for a long time. And if you read that thread you will also see multiple personal attacks toward me by sumday to which I did not respond which are way more vicious than the post you just edited.

What you will not see in that thread are 3 posts by sumday that were so over the top that Barman deleted them after 3 times pleading with sumday to drop the issue. You can ask Barman yourself just how childish the posts were.

Sumday even slapped the olive branch out of my hand when I extended it toward him.

Anyway, it's no big deal. As in the other thread, I'll leave this one alone as well.

 

[sumday]

This thread was started because I thought it was an interesting topic.

I was also curious as to how much time people spent capping.

 

[sumday]

http://www.therxforum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=131


yup. whole forum dedicated to some of the best threads at this forum. iceman has a lot of great stuff.

Checked out some classic threads. Good thing you recommended it. It got me curious. Some of them were very interesting and informative. As I said before, I've learned a lot from this site and continue to do so.

 

[G$$]

I guess the second issue raised that is sort of relevant to time spent capping is paying for picks.

I said I don't agree with paying for picks and I maintain that. However, I understand now why some people would pay for picks after somebody explained it to me.

It makes sense to pay for picks when you don't have time or would rather pay 20 bucks or so to a good capper and have the free time for yourself. 20 or 30 dollars or whatever is well worth it to save time which is very valuable.

i use to be like you sumday and be against paying for picks, up until about a year ago. it was worth it to me also to pay a few bucks for someones opinion who spent hours analyzing and researching it. especially when your laying down a few hundred dollars on a regular basis it makes sense to get another opinion
i still think its smart to do your own homework for at least a few minutes and look at that paying picks opinion
it has lost me a few times but it has won me even more money and saved me tons of time. no matter what anyone else says or thinks you have to spend your money the way you want to . whatever wins stick with it

 

[billhill999]

You don't have to pay for picks, there are plenty of published pro 'cappers daily.
For instance, I do all my own work, but I follow Benjamin Lee Eckstein daily, no nonsense picks, and a win rate of around 64%, sometimes his play is a play I threw out, so I go back to that game and try to see what I missed that he did not.

Russ Harris in horses is another, been doing it for 40 years, no fluff solid information.
Most respected horse capper out there, you can find him in the NY Daily News.