Food for thought: Atlanta vs New England

[NYG4lifeNYK]

Food for thought.......


Defense:

Points allowed:
Atlanta had the 27th worst ranked defense in points allowed (406)
Patriots had the 1st ranked defense in points allowed (250)

Yards per game:
Atlanta's defense gave up 371.2 total YPG (25th) worst in the league
Patriots defense gave up 326.4 total YPG (8th) best in the league

Passing yards:
Atlanta's defense allowed 266.7 passing YPG (28th) worst in the league
Patriots defense allowed 237.9 passing YPG (12th) best in the league

Rushing yards:
Atlanta's defense allowed 104.5 rushing YPG (17th) in the league
Patriots defense 88.6 allowed 88.5 rushing YPG (3rd) in the league



No comparison.




Now onto offense...


Offense:

Points scored:
Atlanta scored 540 points which was tops in the league (1st) very impressive
Patriots scored 441 points good for 3rd best in the league.... also impressive and even more impressive when you factor Brady missed 4 games

Passing:
Atlanta passed for 295.3 YPG (3rd best) in the NFL
Patriots passed for 269.2 YPG (4th best) in the NFL

Rushing:
Atlanta rushed for 120.5 YPG (5th best) in the NFL averaging 4.6 YPC (4th best) on 421 attempts
Patriots rushed for 117.0 YPG (7th best) in the NFL averaging 3.9 YPC (24th worst) on 482 attempts



I'm not saying Atlanta has no chance, it's going to be a great game I think but NE has the clear cut advantage and even what Atlanta does better than anybody, it's not much better than the Patriots.


Defense wins Championships and I expect nothing different this Super Bowl because NE is the most well rounded team in the league with a HOF coach that can win with a 3rd string backup QB.

 

[3pointdog]

And yet only -3.....hmmmmm

I think it's a bad line. I would have made Pats -4.5 to -6... is Vegas up to something...??

 

[Loves2kickass]

Food for thought.......


Defense:

Points allowed:
Atlanta had the 27th worst ranked defense in points allowed (406)
Patriots had the 1st ranked defense in points allowed (250)

Yards per game:
Atlanta's defense gave up 371.2 total YPG (25th) worst in the league
Patriots defense gave up 326.4 total YPG (8th) best in the league

Passing yards:
Atlanta's defense allowed 266.7 passing YPG (28th) worst in the league
Patriots defense allowed 237.9 passing YPG (12th) best in the league

Rushing yards:
Atlanta's defense allowed 104.5 rushing YPG (17th) in the league
Patriots defense 88.6 allowed 88.5 rushing YPG (3rd) in the league



No comparison.




Now onto offense...


Offense:

Points scored:
Atlanta scored 540 points which was tops in the league (1st) very impressive
Patriots scored 441 points good for 3rd best in the league.... also impressive and even more impressive when you factor Brady missed 4 games

Passing:
Atlanta passed for 295.3 YPG (3rd best) in the NFL
Patriots passed for 269.2 YPG (4th best) in the NFL

Rushing:
Atlanta rushed for 120.5 YPG (5th best) in the NFL averaging 4.6 YPC (4th best) on 421 attempts
Patriots rushed for 117.0 YPG (7th best) in the NFL averaging 3.9 YPC (24th worst) on 482 attempts



I'm not saying Atlanta has no chance, it's going to be a great game I think but NE has the clear cut advantage and even what Atlanta does better than anybody, it's not much better than the Patriots.


Defense wins Championships and I expect nothing different this Super Bowl because NE is the most well rounded team in the league with a HOF coach that can win with a 3rd string backup QB.

Those stats mean nothing in comparison to SOS. I hope your more knowledgeable than just stating vague numbers. Just in case you don't know NE was dead last in SOS, 32nd.

 

[ca$hmoney]

Those stats mean nothing in comparison to SOS. I hope your more knowledgeable than just stating vague numbers. Just in case you don't know NE was dead last in SOS, 32nd.

. Didn't Pitt have a tough sos?

 

[LENBO]

And yet only -3.....hmmmmm

I think it's a bad line. I would have made Pats -4.5 to -6... is Vegas up to something...??

Really ?
Pats over a TD at home ?

 

[WinnersareGrinners]

Those stats mean nothing in comparison to SOS. I hope your more knowledgeable than just stating vague numbers. Just in case you don't know NE was dead last in SOS, 32nd.

correct, and if it was as simple as comparing raw stats bookies would be broke and gamblers everywhere rich....those stats have absolutely zero to do with this specific match up at hand....stats can often be very misleading, i remember laughing before the seattle vs denver SB when the "numbers never lie" program tried to say that Manning's release was so quick (something like 2.9secs ave) that the ball would be gone before the seattle pass rush ever got to him as they apparently took over 3.5 secs on average, we all know how those stats held up.....just one example i could go on

 

[NYG4lifeNYK]

Those stats mean nothing in comparison to SOS. I hope your more knowledgeable than just stating vague numbers. Just in case you don't know NE was dead last in SOS, 32nd.

I'm very much aware however SOS doesn't mean much when you have Bill Belichick as your HC.

They destroyed Pittsburgh. Does that not count?

You give Belichick two weeks to prepare for a team that has no defense and he will annihilate them.

Ok maybe not annihilate but the Falcons are not the Giants or Seahawks. They are a pure offensive team. That does not bode well in the biggest game of the season.

 

[NYG4lifeNYK]

There will be tons of money on ATL because their offense looks unstoppable.

 

[WinnersareGrinners]

There will be tons of money on ATL because their offense looks unstoppable.

i guarantee you the books will all be pulling for the Falcons and weight of public money will be on NE....also not true to say ATL have no defense, they are actually quite fast and have played much better the last month and a half, the stats again don't tell the full story as they are usually playing with a lead and their offense often scores very quickly. They sure pressured Rodgers enough to make him look uncomfortable...anyway go ahead and back NE its your cash.

 

[bradyisgod]

The public favorite is going to be NE. It is right now and I expect them to continue to get the majority of public money. Bringing up the GB game is largely pointless as this matchup is much different with the defenses. The Falcons are not going to "shred" the NE defense like they did the GB defense. Matt Ryan has lived up to his name in the playoffs with a losing record going 3-4 and a winless 0-2 on the road. Brady is 24-9 and 5-4 on the road. There is no comparison between the two in the post season. There is no comparison between the coaching of ATL and NE. There is no comparison between the Defenses. Sure, ATL is very improved and has some talent on defense. They have a high powered offense and do have the edge on the Pats there. But I do not think you see anything close to the same game you saw against GB. They will not shred the Patriots and I agree with Willie that's pretty funny to hear anything about them "shredding" the pats. If I were an ATL backer I'd be much more worried about how that young improving defense and offense (pointing at Matty Ice) is going to perform in the final game of the post season, on the road, against a very good and experienced defense and coaching staff who has already been there and done it. Experience means a lot here.

I think it's going to be a good game and a dog fight. A falcons upset doesn't surprise me but that offense is going to have to be on point for it to happen. I doubt very seriously there will be any shredding going on.

 

[Loves2kickass]

. Didn't Pitt have a tough sos?

This girl doesn't care about Pitt. New England's stats look good because they played the easiest schedule in the league, like I said, 32nd. Dead last.

 

[Loves2kickass]

I'm very much aware however SOS doesn't mean much when you have Bill Belichick as your HC.

They destroyed Pittsburgh. Does that not count?

You give Belichick two weeks to prepare for a team that has no defense and he will annihilate them.

Ok maybe not annihilate but the Falcons are not the Giants or Seahawks. They are a pure offensive team. That does not bode well in the biggest game of the season.

I'm sorry but respectfully you are dead wrong in basically stating Atlanta has no defense. Your acting like BB is a God for Christ sake. I wish you luck with the Patriots though. I'm not trying to talk you into something you don't agree with but you will be disappointed with your selection after the game.

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[Loves2kickass]

The public favorite is going to be NE. It is right now and I expect them to continue to get the majority of public money. Bringing up the GB game is largely pointless as this matchup is much different with the defenses. The Falcons are not going to "shred" the NE defense like they did the GB defense. Matt Ryan has lived up to his name in the playoffs with a losing record going 3-4 and a winless 0-2 on the road. Brady is 24-9 and 5-4 on the road. There is no comparison between the two in the post season. There is no comparison between the coaching of ATL and NE. There is no comparison between the Defenses. Sure, ATL is very improved and has some talent on defense. They have a high powered offense and do have the edge on the Pats there. But I do not think you see anything close to the same game you saw against GB. They will not shred the Patriots and I agree with Willie that's pretty funny to hear anything about them "shredding" the pats. If I were an ATL backer I'd be much more worried about how that young improving defense and offense (pointing at Matty Ice) is going to perform in the final game of the post season, on the road, against a very good and experienced defense and coaching staff who has already been there and done it. Experience means a lot here.

I think it's going to be a good game and a dog fight. A falcons upset doesn't surprise me but that offense is going to have to be on point for it to happen. I doubt very seriously there will be any shredding going on.

Your probably correct. It should be a close, competitive game but the Falcons will win the game.

 

[dtmad]

There will be tons of money on ATL because their offense looks unstoppable.

Yes

 

[halekulani]

line is so sketchy
should have opened at 4.5 or more

roger goodell prob would assassinate tom brady before handing him the trophy after what he did earlier this yr lol

 

[PatPatriot]

Pats were still 6-1 against playoff competition.
That's not counting wins against Denver on the road and Baltimore.

 

[ca$hmoney]

This girl doesn't care about Pitt. New England's stats look good because they played the easiest schedule in the league, like I said, 32nd. Dead last.

. Pitt played a tough schedule so they should have won based on stats right?

 

[Loves2kickass]

. Pitt played a tough schedule so they should have won based on stats right?

Apparently you aren't tracking hunny. I was referring to the misleading, meaningless stats posted at the opening of the thread.

 

[Albatross]

The Falcon D is crazy fast. The rush off the ends and MLB play will be the best NE may have seen all year. The ATL secondary can be had because they play so physical.....tons of PI calls.....in which could loom huge in this game.

I dont think there is a faster D in all the NFL. The game vs Pitt is a terrible match-up. Pitt plays strictly zone D. They dont blitz alot. Plays right into a team like NE hands. ATL plays D different. They take more risk.


I am pretty sure the Falcon O is a big mismatch vs the NE D. NE has a very large and physical front 7. Not super fast but strong. They hold the point of contact at the LOS very well. If they dont get pressure on Ryan he will pick them apart....in which the same can be said with Brady. The biggest mismatch on the field will be the ATL rushing attack vs a very physical but slower front 7. Freeman and Coleman are quick and legit. Complete different running styles that what teams like the Steelers have.


Both teams are hot. ATL the last 6-8 games is totally different than what they were early on. I cant believe folks are not talking about missing Gronk. He is worth 6 points himself.

 

[dotcomceo]

Gronk is a huge loss but Bennett is easily a top 10 tight end himself so its not that big a loss, Tom has weapons all over with hogan,edelman,amendola,mitchell,floyd. I dont think anyone is worried about the pats being able to score on this young secondary, its that the pats defense isnt really all that great vs this offense. Bill will either be a genius for letting chandler jones and jamie collins go and they win, or he will be a smug a-hole for doing so if they lose