Following/fading a team's moneyline all season?

slatter · May 7, 2009

I assume people have done this before--in fact I think I read someone was fading the Yankees every game last year. Anyway, I'm wondering if there's a site that keeps track of units won/lost if you just bet on or against a team's moneyline every game for an entire 162-game season.

i.e. if the Orioles are 11-19 right now and you are betting for them to lose every game you might be breakeven right now because when they win they are probably +180 or so.

Thanks!

PacnyTuH0 · May 7, 2009

I don't know if I am allowed to post links but you can check the bookie Bet365. Scroll down the sports page and you are gonna see services in the middle on the right after the list with the sports. In the services go to "Form and stats" and then "US Sports". After that you can find the info you're looking for either in match-ups or on the team's individual page.

slatter · May 7, 2009

slatter · May 7, 2009

Ehh, that doesn't really tell you what the lines were before the game, though.

slatter · May 8, 2009

sherwood · May 8, 2009

covers has that info.
In fact, they also give you the run line totals too.

Just go to game match-ups and it's the second column

TheJackal · May 8, 2009

slatter said:
I assume people have done this before--in fact I think I read someone was fading the Yankees every game last year.

Then that person would have lost money last year.

Yankees were 89-72 last year. If you bet $100 on the Yanks every game last year you would have lost $280. If you bet $100 against the Yanks all year you would have lost $565.

Here's the data you are looking for. Season=2008.

<TABLE id=sortable_table cellPadding=2 bgColor=#ffffff border=0><THEAD><TR><TH>Record
W-L (marg, % win)
</TH><TH>
$ On
</TH><TH>
$ Against
</TH><TH>RL Record
W-L (marg, % win)
</TH><TH>
$ On
</TH><TH>
$ Against
</TH><TH>Over/Under
O-U-P (marg, % over)
</TH><TH>
$ Over
</TH><TH>
$ Under
</TH><TH name="query_header">team</TH></TR></THEAD><TBODY><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD align=middle>105-73 (0.66, 59.0%)</TD><TD align=middle>2760 </TD><TD align=middle>-3600 </TD><TD align=middle>95-83 (0.25, 53.4%)</TD><TD align=middle>1425 </TD><TD align=middle>-2480 </TD><TD align=middle>81-93-4 (0.12, 46.6%)</TD><TD align=middle>-1970 </TD><TD align=middle>195 </TD><TD align=middle>Rays</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#e6e6e6><TD align=middle>86-75 (-0.19, 53.4%)</TD><TD align=middle>2150 </TD><TD align=middle>-3105 </TD><TD align=middle>90-71 (0.00, 55.9%)</TD><TD align=middle>1965 </TD><TD align=middle>-2815 </TD><TD align=middle>68-88-5 (0.06, 43.6%)</TD><TD align=middle>-2805 </TD><TD align=middle>1250 </TD><TD align=middle>Astros</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD align=middle>101-65 (0.38, 60.8%)</TD><TD align=middle>2035 </TD><TD align=middle>-2930 </TD><TD align=middle>85-81 (-0.25, 51.2%)</TD><TD align=middle>1675 </TD><TD align=middle>-2605 </TD><TD align=middle>70-90-6 (0.18, 43.8%)</TD><TD align=middle>-2845 </TD><TD align=middle>1225 </TD><TD align=middle>Angels</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#e6e6e6><TD align=middle>84-77 (0.02, 52.2%)</TD><TD align=middle>1800 </TD><TD align=middle>-2665 </TD><TD align=middle>91-70 (0.64, 56.5%)</TD><TD align=middle>1185 </TD><TD align=middle>-2155 </TD><TD align=middle>83-71-7 (0.49, 53.9%)</TD><TD align=middle>540 </TD><TD align=middle>-2065 </TD><TD align=middle>Marlins</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD align=middle>103-73 (0.79, 58.5%)</TD><TD align=middle>1150 </TD><TD align=middle>-2105 </TD><TD align=middle>84-92 (0.23, 47.7%)</TD><TD align=middle>-850 </TD><TD align=middle>-80 </TD><TD align=middle>79-91-6 (-0.12, 46.5%)</TD><TD align=middle>-2015 </TD><TD align=middle>445 </TD><TD align=middle>Phillies</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#e6e6e6><TD align=middle>88-75 (0.52, 54.0%)</TD><TD align=middle>940 </TD><TD align=middle>-1700 </TD><TD align=middle>94-69 (0.65, 57.7%)</TD><TD align=middle>2315 </TD><TD align=middle>-3220 </TD><TD align=middle>90-69-4 (0.80, 56.6%)</TD><TD align=middle>1495 </TD><TD align=middle>-2980 </TD><TD align=middle>Twins</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD align=middle>97-67 (1.04, 59.1%)</TD><TD align=middle>900 </TD><TD align=middle>-1740 </TD><TD align=middle>83-81 (0.30, 50.6%)</TD><TD align=middle>630 </TD><TD align=middle>-1775 </TD><TD align=middle>82-76-6 (0.58, 51.9%)</TD><TD align=middle>-60 </TD><TD align=middle>-1515 </TD><TD align=middle>Cubs</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#e6e6e6><TD align=middle>101-72 (0.82, 58.4%)</TD><TD align=middle>830 </TD><TD align=middle>-1670 </TD><TD align=middle>86-87 (-0.01, 49.7%)</TD><TD align=middle>70 </TD><TD align=middle>-1020 </TD><TD align=middle>76-86-11 (0.27, 46.9%)</TD><TD align=middle>-1700 </TD><TD align=middle>110 </TD><TD align=middle>Red Sox</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD align=middle>86-76 (0.33, 53.1%)</TD><TD align=middle>805 </TD><TD align=middle>-1665 </TD><TD align=middle>88-74 (0.26, 54.3%)</TD><TD align=middle>1670 </TD><TD align=middle>-2515 </TD><TD align=middle>74-77-11 (0.47, 49.0%)</TD><TD align=middle>-1020 </TD><TD align=middle>-595 </TD><TD align=middle>Cardinals</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#e6e6e6><TD align=middle>79-83 (-0.41, 48.8%)</TD><TD align=middle>685 </TD><TD align=middle>-1555 </TD><TD align=middle>82-80 (0.31, 50.6%)</TD><TD align=middle>-1375 </TD><TD align=middle>495 </TD><TD align=middle>84-72-6 (1.51, 53.8%)</TD><TD align=middle>470 </TD><TD align=middle>-2125 </TD><TD align=middle>Rangers</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD align=middle>90-77 (0.44, 53.9%)</TD><TD align=middle>450 </TD><TD align=middle>-1095 </TD><TD align=middle>88-79 (0.15, 52.7%)</TD><TD align=middle>660 </TD><TD align=middle>-1705 </TD><TD align=middle>78-81-8 (0.40, 49.1%)</TD><TD align=middle>-1100 </TD><TD align=middle>-555 </TD><TD align=middle>White Sox</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#e6e6e6><TD align=middle>75-87 (-0.56, 46.3%)</TD><TD align=middle>260 </TD><TD align=middle>-1205 </TD><TD align=middle>80-82 (0.06, 49.4%)</TD><TD align=middle>-1245 </TD><TD align=middle>170 </TD><TD align=middle>74-85-3 (0.20, 46.5%)</TD><TD align=middle>-1865 </TD><TD align=middle>260 </TD><TD align=middle>Royals</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD align=middle>91-75 (0.33, 54.8%)</TD><TD align=middle>185 </TD><TD align=middle>-935 </TD><TD align=middle>80-86 (0.01, 48.2%)</TD><TD align=middle>-1610 </TD><TD align=middle>665 </TD><TD align=middle>70-85-11 (0.10, 45.2%)</TD><TD align=middle>-2365 </TD><TD align=middle>745 </TD><TD align=middle>Brewers</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#e6e6e6><TD align=middle>86-76 (0.63, 53.1%)</TD><TD align=middle>35 </TD><TD align=middle>-855 </TD><TD align=middle>80-80 (0.51, 50.0%)</TD><TD align=middle>-265 </TD><TD align=middle>-585 </TD><TD align=middle>68-84-8 (-0.36, 44.7%)</TD><TD align=middle>-2010 </TD><TD align=middle>825 </TD><TD align=middle>Blue Jays</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD align=middle>89-72 (0.44, 55.3%)</TD><TD align=middle>-280 </TD><TD align=middle>-565 </TD><TD align=middle>74-87 (-0.22, 46.0%)</TD><TD align=middle>-1115 </TD><TD align=middle>265 </TD><TD align=middle>67-89-5 (-0.02, 42.9%)</TD><TD align=middle>-2910 </TD><TD align=middle>1490 </TD><TD align=middle>Yankees</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#e6e6e6><TD align=middle>72-90 (-0.73, 44.4%)</TD><TD align=middle>-745 </TD><TD align=middle>-25 </TD><TD align=middle>74-87 (-0.15, 46.0%)</TD><TD align=middle>-2965 </TD><TD align=middle>1795 </TD><TD align=middle>80-76-6 (0.51, 51.3%)</TD><TD align=middle>-215 </TD><TD align=middle>-1360 </TD><TD align=middle>Giants</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD align=middle>75-86 (-0.27, 46.6%)</TD><TD align=middle>-785 </TD><TD align=middle>-30 </TD><TD align=middle>80-81 (0.09, 49.7%)</TD><TD align=middle>-1450 </TD><TD align=middle>515 </TD><TD align=middle>60-90-11 (-0.09, 40.0%)</TD><TD align=middle>-3845 </TD><TD align=middle>2235 </TD><TD align=middle>Athletics</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#e6e6e6><TD align=middle>88-82 (0.36, 51.8%)</TD><TD align=middle>-795 </TD><TD align=middle>-95 </TD><TD align=middle>84-86 (-0.06, 49.4%)</TD><TD align=middle>-280 </TD><TD align=middle>-770 </TD><TD align=middle>77-85-8 (0.15, 47.5%)</TD><TD align=middle>-1545 </TD><TD align=middle>0 </TD><TD align=middle>Dodgers</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD align=middle>81-81 (0.27, 50.0%)</TD><TD align=middle>-805 </TD><TD align=middle>-115 </TD><TD align=middle>83-79 (0.14, 51.2%)</TD><TD align=middle>-45 </TD><TD align=middle>-945 </TD><TD align=middle>78-80-4 (0.64, 49.4%)</TD><TD align=middle>-945 </TD><TD align=middle>-580 </TD><TD align=middle>Indians</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#e6e6e6><TD align=middle>88-73 (0.47, 54.7%)</TD><TD align=middle>-890 </TD><TD align=middle>-45 </TD><TD align=middle>82-79 (-0.34, 50.9%)</TD><TD align=middle>820 </TD><TD align=middle>-1730 </TD><TD align=middle>83-66-12 (0.55, 55.7%)</TD><TD align=middle>1060 </TD><TD align=middle>-2535 </TD><TD align=middle>Mets</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD align=middle>67-95 (-0.92, 41.4%)</TD><TD align=middle>-1185 </TD><TD align=middle>460 </TD><TD align=middle>80-82 (0.04, 49.4%)</TD><TD align=middle>-1305 </TD><TD align=middle>340 </TD><TD align=middle>84-70-8 (0.96, 54.5%)</TD><TD align=middle>725 </TD><TD align=middle>-2155 </TD><TD align=middle>Pirates</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#e6e6e6><TD align=middle>68-93 (-0.53, 42.2%)</TD><TD align=middle>-1425 </TD><TD align=middle>755 </TD><TD align=middle>84-75 (0.21, 52.8%)</TD><TD align=middle>-45 </TD><TD align=middle>-850 </TD><TD align=middle>83-67-9 (0.93, 55.3%)</TD><TD align=middle>1250 </TD><TD align=middle>-2480 </TD><TD align=middle>Orioles</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD align=middle>82-80 (0.09, 50.6%)</TD><TD align=middle>-1630 </TD><TD align=middle>860 </TD><TD align=middle>72-90 (-0.43, 44.4%)</TD><TD align=middle>-2675 </TD><TD align=middle>1610 </TD><TD align=middle>79-75-8 (0.33, 51.3%)</TD><TD align=middle>-245 </TD><TD align=middle>-1245 </TD><TD align=middle>Diamondbacks</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#e6e6e6><TD align=middle>74-88 (-0.59, 45.7%)</TD><TD align=middle>-1650 </TD><TD align=middle>865 </TD><TD align=middle>73-89 (-0.44, 45.1%)</TD><TD align=middle>-2200 </TD><TD align=middle>1260 </TD><TD align=middle>73-77-12 (0.31, 48.7%)</TD><TD align=middle>-1025 </TD><TD align=middle>-340 </TD><TD align=middle>Reds</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD align=middle>74-88 (-0.46, 45.7%)</TD><TD align=middle>-2000 </TD><TD align=middle>1180 </TD><TD align=middle>74-88 (-0.48, 45.7%)</TD><TD align=middle>-2100 </TD><TD align=middle>1265 </TD><TD align=middle>75-79-8 (0.43, 48.7%)</TD><TD align=middle>-1040 </TD><TD align=middle>-355 </TD><TD align=middle>Rockies</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#e6e6e6><TD align=middle>72-90 (-0.15, 44.4%)</TD><TD align=middle>-2390 </TD><TD align=middle>1425 </TD><TD align=middle>82-80 (-0.14, 50.6%)</TD><TD align=middle>20 </TD><TD align=middle>-855 </TD><TD align=middle>70-88-4 (0.43, 44.3%)</TD><TD align=middle>-2610 </TD><TD align=middle>955 </TD><TD align=middle>Braves</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD align=middle>59-102 (-1.14, 36.6%)</TD><TD align=middle>-2485 </TD><TD align=middle>1535 </TD><TD align=middle>83-78 (0.00, 51.6%)</TD><TD align=middle>-1490 </TD><TD align=middle>725 </TD><TD align=middle>77-76-8 (0.36, 50.3%)</TD><TD align=middle>-620 </TD><TD align=middle>-875 </TD><TD align=middle>Nationals</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#e6e6e6><TD align=middle>74-88 (-0.22, 45.7%)</TD><TD align=middle>-3110 </TD><TD align=middle>2380 </TD><TD align=middle>73-89 (-0.57, 45.1%)</TD><TD align=middle>-1935 </TD><TD align=middle>980 </TD><TD align=middle>80-76-6 (0.84, 51.3%)</TD><TD align=middle>-255 </TD><TD align=middle>-1165 </TD><TD align=middle>Tigers</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD align=middle>63-99 (-0.78, 38.9%)</TD><TD align=middle>-3630 </TD><TD align=middle>2795 </TD><TD align=middle>76-86 (-0.40, 46.9%)</TD><TD align=middle>-1960 </TD><TD align=middle>1075 </TD><TD align=middle>75-81-6 (0.54, 48.1%)</TD><TD align=middle>-1355 </TD><TD align=middle>-145 </TD><TD align=middle>Padres</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#e6e6e6><TD align=middle>61-101 (-0.86, 37.7%)</TD><TD align=middle>-3720 </TD><TD align=middle>2905 </TD><TD align=middle>76-86 (-0.44, 46.9%)</TD><TD align=middle>-1710 </TD><TD align=middle>760 </TD><TD align=middle>78-77-7 (0.34, 50.3%)</TD><TD align=middle>-565 </TD><TD align=middle>-865 </TD><TD align=middle>Mariners</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

slatter · May 8, 2009

Exactly what I was looking for. Thanks Jackal!

TheJackal · May 8, 2009

Glad I could help.

slatter · May 8, 2009

Jackal, is that information free on KillerSports? I looked and couldn't find the spreadsheet you posted but found some free trends to look at.

TheJackal · May 8, 2009

free. here's the table.

http://killersports.com/mlb.py/query?sid=guest&text=team+and+season%3D2008&submit=query

The trends are usually crap. I don't pay any attention to them. Ask your own questions and find your own answers. That's what most people can't seem to do here. You always see some post like "I found the mother load. Fade any team playing the next day after they win an extra innings night game because they are sure to have a let down" because they saw a single game where some team fell on their face this year after a high emotion extra inning win the night before.

(just made this scenario up, lets see if it holds any water.)

http://killersports.com/mlb.py/quer...and+p:date=date-1+and+p:NGT+and+series+game=1 http://killersports.com/mlb.py/quer...and+p:date=date-1+and+p:NGT+and+series+game=1http://killersports.com/mlb.py/quer...te-1+and+p:NGT+and+series+game=1&submit=query

Teams in 2008 were 9-5 after a win in an extra inning night game in a game they had to play the very next day. (I added series game =1 because if they are just playing the same team again then both teams would theoretically be at a disadvantage of playing the extra inning game.) 9-5 is not something I would want to fade. Not much of a sample size and certainly not a big trend I would go follow blindly either.

The more questions you can ask and answer on your own, the better capper you will become.