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i have known the iceman for 20 yrs and have been a losing gambler 13 out of 15 yrs as a handicapper, and the 2 yrs i "won" still isn't close to what i lost. so in reality i am still down......... then enter the iceman and betting the edge#'s only!! rolling with the STEAM, ONLY!! I DO NOT HANDICAPP ANYTHING. every handicapper i know is down AGAIN this yr.[ the public ]. i have tried to help a few and they still go back to wat THEY think is best. i have not lost 1 single night of SLEEP since being w the ice nor do i watch 98% of the games, only teams i have interest in. i basically wake up in the morning, click on my comp, mark my wins and losses, do my math, and have become a 55% gambler since. varience is just part of the game. yes i do lose some nights, but am getting close to winning back my money that i have lost over the years. i LOVE this method because i have seen the results only after some 500 to 600 plays, not just 15 or 20. my friend knows wat he is talking about, so try not to read into it so deep and BETEDGE'S ONLY. BY THE WAY, HELLO ALL AND APPRECIATE YOUR WINNINGS AND SAY GOODBYE TO LOSING. :howdy:
 

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ICE....You have created a monster in the college hoops forum! :lolBIG:
 

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Guys,

I want to clear the air about something. NO ONE told me to stop posting about this. I did get 1 message from guy who was very professional and said to let you guys try and figure it out on your own but that is not the main reason I stopped. Sorry if it came across that way, like always no one at the RX ever said a bad word to me.

Like I said in the earlier thread it has to do more with me ALWAYS feeling like I have to prove everyone wrong when I feel so strongly in my heart I am right about something. This would have been a never ending quest. I was actually SWEATING out some steam plays I gave out Tuesday and I decided I am not going down that road to try and prove something. I felt I didn't/want nor need the pressure of the results of 10 games when I am betting 2,000 games a month and anything can happen in those 10. I hope most of you understand this reasoning.

It is a marathon in every sense of the word. 30 plays on average a day equals 900 bets a month, it takes the luck out of this by betting that many advantage plays (I went 32-21 last nite and NEVER worried about 1 lousy game and that has to be your 100% mentality).


The key thing here is that no one will have all the same plays because there is no right or wrong and I don't want nor can I prove that. Just bet rouge lines and you will win. I wanted alot of you guys to see that on your own and I think alot did last nite. That is such a big point. Their is no answer key to this. Some games you can actually have the two different teams and they both can be quality wagers (i.e this is why a middle works). Beat the closing line and try to make sure it equates to a -120 line at Pinny.

I also get offended when others come in and say this don't work and beleieve me this will happen the minute you have a losing nite. I just don't have the energy to prove anything to anyone, this is draining enough. Bottom line is this works, I swear to you and if it didn't I would not be wasting my time posting this. It has changed my game/life 100% and I have not had a losing month in 7 months (non baseball, I can't figure that sport out- but I will). Everything I have posted here has happend to me and the way the climate is right now (harder) I need to take the time and focus on beating this. I have been missing quite a bit of bets the last few nites and that drives me insane. That is nobodies fault but my own.


Most importantly the only way I learned this was to make tons and tons of bets and mistakes. Mosy of you guys figured alot of it last nite. To sum it up:
1) lots of outs, the more the merrier
2) beat the closing line (always make sure this is your #1 goal). Wait till late to assure this.
3) follow steam (esp in CBB)
4) try to get -120 lines at Pinny and bet at -110 at square book (same line)
5) NBA halftimes are a goldmine
6) be prepared for HUGE flucuations in your bankroll, if you can't handle this than I reccomend going a different route.
7) quit capping the team and cap the number. The number means everything. Everything is built into the number. You are not going to beat gambling out smarting millions of dollars and people. All it does (capping) is make you 2nd guess. Look at how many close game swe won last nite.
8) out work your competition. I feel I earn everyone of those half point wins.:103631605
9) read everything you can about these subjects at the RX (search) and Fezziksplace has some great info about this. It helped me learn this 5x faster than without it
10) probalby better to make quality bets than qunaity until you get a better feel and steam is quality.
These are all the things I can think of. Like I said many times you get what you put into this. I wasn't kidding about the whole girlfriend/wife being pissed at you. Mine went to bed mad last nite because of all the time I spent on here , doesn't she know there was a full slate of NBA games last nite (went 4-2 with halftimes).

Hope you guys understand. I will try to help at this when I have the time and like I said if you are not behind something like this 100% than I advise you to not attempt it. This will take hours of practice and you must be prepared for hundreds of bets to come into play to see your edge (winning half point to 1 point wins which most have seen already is where you will see this) but the only way to learn this the right way is thru practice. I have held nothing back. I am not trying to sound like a know it all and I hope I didn't come across that way as I am still learning everyday and get humbled quite a bit by the gambling gods. All I know is this gives me my best chance to win at this and I think it will give you your best chance, so I that is why I shared it. Good Luck and lets all win some money:toast:
 

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Ice,

Make sure you know that your insight into this and many other matters on the Rx is greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Geaux
 

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Iceman said:
Guys,

I want to clear the air about something. NO ONE told me to stop posting about this. I did get 1 message from guy who was very professional and said to let you guys try and figure it out on your own but that is not the main reason I stopped. Sorry if it came across that way, like always no one at the RX ever said a bad word to me.

Like I said in the earlier thread it has to do more with me ALWAYS feeling like I have to prove everyone wrong when I feel so strongly in my heart I am right about something. This would have been a never ending quest. I was actually SWEATING out some steam plays I gave out Tuesday and I decided I am not going down that road to try and prove something. I felt I didn't/want nor need the pressure of the results of 10 games when I am betting 2,000 games a month and anything can happen in those 10. I hope most of you understand this reasoning.

It is a marathon in every sense of the word. 30 plays on average a day equals 900 bets a month, it takes the luck out of this by betting that many advantage plays (I went 32-21 last nite and NEVER worried about 1 lousy game and that has to be your 100% mentality).


The key thing here is that no one will have all the same plays because there is no right or wrong and I don't want nor can I prove that. Just bet rouge lines and you will win. I wanted alot of you guys to see that on your own and I think alot did last nite. That is such a big point. Their is no answer key to this. Some games you can actually have the two different teams and they both can be quality wagers (i.e this is why a middle works). Beat the closing line and try to make sure it equates to a -120 line at Pinny.

I also get offended when others come in and say this don't work and beleieve me this will happen the minute you have a losing nite. I just don't have the energy to prove anything to anyone, this is draining enough. Bottom line is this works, I swear to you and if it didn't I would not be wasting my time posting this. It has changed my game/life 100% and I have not had a losing month in 7 months (non baseball, I can't figure that sport out- but I will). Everything I have posted here has happend to me and the way the climate is right now (harder) I need to take the time and focus on beating this. I have been missing quite a bit of bets the last few nites and that drives me insane. That is nobodies fault but my own.


Most importantly the only way I learned this was to make tons and tons of bets and mistakes. Mosy of you guys figured alot of it last nite. To sum it up:
1) lots of outs, the more the merrier
2) beat the closing line (always make sure this is your #1 goal). Wait till late to assure this.
3) follow steam (esp in CBB)
4) try to get -120 lines at Pinny and bet at -110 at square book (same line)
5) NBA halftimes are a goldmine
6) be prepared for HUGE flucuations in your bankroll, if you can't handle this than I reccomend going a different route.
7) quit capping the team and cap the number. The number means everything. Everything is built into the number. You are not going to beat gambling out smarting millions of dollars and people. All it does (capping) is make you 2nd guess. Look at how many close game swe won last nite.
8) out work your competition. I feel I earn everyone of those half point wins.:103631605
9) read everything you can about these subjects at the RX (search) and Fezziksplace has some great info about this. It helped me learn this 5x faster than without it
10) probalby better to make quality bets than qunaity until you get a better feel and steam is quality.
These are all the things I can think of. Like I said many times you get what you put into this. I wasn't kidding about the whole girlfriend/wife being pissed at you. Mine went to bed mad last nite because of all the time I spent on here , doesn't she know there was a full slate of NBA games last nite (went 4-2 with halftimes).

Hope you guys understand. I will try to help at this when I have the time and like I said if you are not behind something like this 100% than I advise you to not attempt it. This will take hours of practice and you must be prepared for hundreds of bets to come into play to see your edge (winning half point to 1 point wins which most have seen already is where you will see this) but the only way to learn this the right way is thru practice. I have held nothing back. I am not trying to sound like a know it all and I hope I didn't come across that way as I am still learning everyday and get humbled quite a bit by the gambling gods. All I know is this gives me my best chance to win at this and I think it will give you your best chance, so I that is why I shared it. Good Luck and lets all win some money:toast:


THanks Iceman. As always really appreciate your help. Not many are willing to share and help. You the man. I do disagree that people cannot handicapp and win. I have not said much on this but, people do capp and win and so do I at 55% or so depending. You certainly can capp and win. If you check some people are telling Fezzik (now, before and in the future) to capp the games and win. Stop crying about the changing marketplace and win is what some tell him. You have to do what is best for you. I have known and heard about steam but you have enlightened me on a couple of aspects that have helped immensely. I missed on a few points that you helped clear up. BIG DIFFERENCE a few small changes can make. Thanks again!

TB
 

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Nothing else needs to be said

ICE has explained this fully. Bottom line, you need dedication, lots of time, at least one slow moving out, and the ability to withstand occasional moderate losing streaks.

Last year I did a variation of this to more success than I ever thought was possible. The closing of some offshore books (which were great outs for me) and my partial greediness with an agent driven operation reduced my abiltiy to shop around and so I have not had the energy to try this time around. I may do so after the Super Bowl to see if I can recreate the 2005-2006 magic.

Thanks.
 

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Iceman - you the man...I appreciate all the insight. No need to sweat it here man. We're all in this together!! Thanks much!!!!!
 

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Tom Brady#1 said:
THanks Iceman. As always really appreciate your help. Not many are willing to share and help. You the man. I do disagree that people cannot handicapp and win. I have not said much on this but, people do capp and win and so do I at 55% or so depending. You certainly can capp and win. If you check some people are telling Fezzik (now, before and in the future) to capp the games and win. Stop crying about the changing marketplace and win is what some tell him. You have to do what is best for you. I have known and heard about steam but you have enlightened me on a couple of aspects that have helped immensely. I missed on a few points that you helped clear up. BIG DIFFERENCE a few small changes can make. Thanks again!

TB
i dont think u r understanding wat the ice is really saying, he USED to capp and has NEVER come close to winning at the rate that he is doing now. just look at the so called cappers and their winning %. they r broke. it might work for a weekend or two, but overall u will lose ur ass in the long run. if u think it works then do it, but the ice DOES NOT CAPP. :money8:
 

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