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I played FSU over 6.5 season wins -300 tonight. I cant see how I can lose this. Wish I had got too it sooner for less juice!

7-6 last year while at BC, Clemson, Colorado, Florida and Va Tech. All nasty places to visit. They have them all home this year. And drop Bama from the schedule and open with two 1-AA teams.

FSU is finally a veteran team and returns 16 starters and are in the second year of a return to good coaching.


So Im 1-0 so far this year. :fatboy:
 

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Don't they have one of the worst OL's in the ACC? I believe they should get to 7 wins this year, but when you can't block nothing is a sure thing.

They will start the year 2-0 very easily, but then they should lose one of their next two games vs Wake Forest and vs Colorado. Then they play @ Miami and @ NC St, and again they should lose at least one of those games. They should lose their next game also at home against VT, so that's a 4-3 record after 7 games. Then they play @ GT, vs Clemson, vs BC and @ Maryland. They have to win at least 3 of those games for them to get 7 wins because they won't beat Florida in the last week.

It might not be as easy and you make it seem. I think they finish 7-5, but not nearly worth the juice you have to pay IMO.
 

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If I were a teacher, my red marker would be bleeding all over that post. Yes they do have a bad offensive line.
 

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open with two 1-AA teams...do those games even count as "ACTION"/???

I mean they don't count for bowl consideration...and IF NOT "lined" games...better check your FINE PRINT....:sad3:

SOME books are VERY sneaky....:nohead:
 

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dropping alabama means nothing since that was a win last year

always better to go under than over with future totals due to injuries/suspensions
-300 is never a good bet
start the season w/ missing starters for wake forest and first 2 d1-aa games, but then week 4 vs colorado will be first game for lots of players
continuity/chemistry with missing players coming back a month into the season
questionable o-line w/ limited experience

so a 7 win team that doesn't seem to have gotten much better is now 3 times more likely to win 7 than win 6..??

btw- i had u9.5 last year and won by mid-october
had them listed as a 7 o/u this year so -300 is terrible value imo

good luck
 

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You guys are free to disagree if you like, I am not the slightest bit worried about this bet though.

You'll see some improvment from FSU this year in ability, to what extent I dont know. Schedule lightens up a bit and the offensive line is projected to be bad, that does not mean in reality it will be. If it is, that is not a drop off, its been bad for 4 years. The chance of them winning 7 or more to me is much higher than 75% which is -300.
 

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if they won 7, frankly that would be a decline. they won 7 last year with a much harder schedule. they also had 3 close losses

6 at clemson
3 at wake
8 Miami ( FSU led very late, Miami took lead then got like a fluke INT return on last play or something to turn 1 pt win into 8)

lost weatherford at Va Tech then got blown out late playing a true frosh QB with zero experience.
played horrid at Florida, got killed.

some very tough away places last year are home games now. FSU could be much improved. They have been a young team last two years, not this year. Still I have a wait and see attitude before I predict much positive change, but it wouldnt take any to win 7. 7 wins really would be a decline. also they have 7 home games plus Colorado in Jacksonville which really is another one, thats 8.
 

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Mr Smith hyping up the Noles. Some things never change

:toast: Good luck on the play
 

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mr Smith, my fellow FSU alum,,,,

I wish you luck bro, but from a pure laying of the chalk perspective, It is so hard for me to pull a trigger ona bet with a -300 juice where so may variables could F me over the course of the next 3 months,,,,

its so much easier Swallowing a -300 Vig on a SU NBA game or a SU NFL game,,

I will be pulling for you and us like i DO EVERY YEAR,,,

good luck bro,, go Noles
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So Mr. SMith is a Nole.

You better pray you get to 7 wins. Less and you lose a ton AND dont go bowling.
 

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Miami, BC down this year.


surprising stuff from Randy Shannon, but remember, they dont have a QB who has ever taken a college snap.


<TABLE class=cols cellSpacing=0><TBODY><TR><TD colSpan=2><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="75%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top>Randy Shannon lets us in
July 23, 2008 9:31 AM
Posted by ESPN.com's Heather Dinich

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</TD></TR><TR><TD> </TD><TD align=left>Jason Parkhurst/USPresswire</TD></TR><TR><TD> </TD><TD align=left>Miami coach Randy Shannon says no one can put more pressure on him than himself.</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>It's not easy to truly get to know Miami coach Randy Shannon. He puts up a wall, and doesn't seem to want to let anyone in -- particularly the media, which isn't exactly unheard of in his profession.
It's not uncommon for him to give one-word answers, or answer a question with a question. But on Monday, Shannon opened the door to the program -- and himself -- just enough.
I asked him if he was more comfortable this year, given the additional depth, subtraction of a few players and influx of talented youth. Buried in his answer, Shannon said he doesn't expect the Hurricanes to be much better than last year's 5-7 finish.
"I feel really good about what we've got going on, the direction we're going as a football team," Shannon said. "When you start off building a foundation like we started off last year, when you're trying to create the atmosphere of having a winning mentality, having the attitude of changing a culture around, it's a start.
"If we go 5-7 and was able to recruit guys like we did last year, that means we're in the start of going in the right direction. So we're excited about that, but it's not going to be the savior of everything. We don't expect to be a lot better than we were last year. We expect to be more competitive than we were last year."
Patience, Miami fans, patience.
Besides, what you say, think or post on the message boards apparently does not faze this man anyway.
Nobody on the other side of his wall could possibly put more pressure on Shannon than himself.
"You guys make it that way," he said. "You guys always say the pressure. You guys think that just because it's Miami ... I remember Jimmy Johnson in '85. They wanted to run him out of Miami. Dennis Erickson won a national championship. They wanted to run Dennis Erickson out of town. There's always going to be that no matter where you at, at any school. But you can't put no more pressure on me. The fans can't put no more pressure on me, because the University of Miami is my alma mater -- I bleed orange and green. Nobody can put more pressure on me than myself. When we lose, I take it harder than anybody in this country. When we win, I'm more excited than anybody in this country."
Last season, then, must have been devastating. Shannon offered several reasons, though, for the Hurricanes' plummet into mediocrity -- none of which included himself.
"A lot of things attributed to the losses last year," he said. "Ten freshmen attributed to the losses last year. Not having no depth on the team contributed to the losses last year. Only having six D-linemen, only having three linebackers, only having three receivers at some point in time ... there's a lot of things that attributed."
Including what offensive tackle Jason Fox described as players who were "cancerous" to the program. Shannon said those guys are gone.
"I think it's a situation that everybody is not going to agree," he said. "Players that are not on the team right now are not bad kids, they just didn't agree to what we were trying to get done at Miami. So what you've gotta do is make sure if they're not trying to get things done the way you want it, and they're not agreeing with what you want, you part ways and go on."
Shannon has no intention of going anywhere anytime soon. He made important changes to his staff that should improve the team, and said he wants to get the kind of stability on his staff that coaches like Frank Beamer and Bobby Bowden have achieved. But in order to have stability, you have to stay. And in order to stay, you must win.
The three-year window coaches are so routinely given to win is a myth to Shannon.
"You talk like that," he said. "I don't. You do."
That's about when he closed the door.



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Shannon has also said they will play two QB's this year, a starter and the backup will also play to get him some work each game. They are searching there.
 

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