Florida high court hears debate in taxation of gambling ships

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TALLAHASSEE, Fla. --
Any ship that docks in Florida and lets passengers gamble once it leaves state waters on "cruises to nowhere" owes state taxes, a state lawyer told the Florida Supreme Court.

But an attorney for New Sea Escape argued Thursday that its ship is exempt because it is a Bahamian vessel engaged in foreign commerce.

The legal issue before Florida's high court is the tax liability of cruise ships that leave Florida ports, travel outside the state's territorial waters before opening up their casinos, and return to Florida several hours later.

The state Department of Revenue contends that New Sea Escape Cruises owes more than $1.4 million in back taxes and penalties for cruises that departed from and returned to Port Everglades in Fort Lauderdale.

Nicholas Bykowsky, arguing for the department, said all the transactions on such cruises are taxable.

The ships don't qualify for a partial exemption for foreign commerce because they never travel to another country, he said. That means the trips must be considered intrastate commerce rather than foreign commerce, Bykowsky argued.

But Edna Caruso, a lawyer for New Sea Escape Cruises, told the justices that its ship was engaged in foreign commerce.

One of the issues facing the Supreme Court involved boundaries of Florida and international waters - and the gap in between. Florida's territorial waters extend 3 miles off its Atlantic coast, but international waters don't begin until at least 12 miles offshore.

"You truly are nowhere," Justice Barbara Pariente said. "You're in nowhere-commerce ... that's the problem."

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Maybe this is "good" in a way. Maybe someone will will see that if they tax net gaming across the board they MIGHT make up some of the budget deficit, NAHHHHHH that makes to much sense...
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God, what a stupid a** argument. Its illegal to gamble here and if dare do it before 3 miles out to sea we will impound your ship and take everything you got, but hey pay your taxes on it anyways!
 

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This government of ours is corrupt. What are we as citizens going to do?
 

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I'm so glad my days of riding those boats are over with. They seized one boat I was a regular on and one other time they raided a boat I was on, LOL. Wish they'd raided us on the way out instead of the way in, rough day that particular cruise.
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