If you have won more than you have lost in this sportsbook. You will not get any reloadbonus.Even though you lost 1000$ in your last bet, and maybe want to reload your account. This is not bonus on all reloads. I`ts just reload if you loosing money. I think First Fidelity is one of the worst sportsbooks to promise things and not deliver. The only thing they deliver is tons of excuses.
Yes Morgan, you are correct, if you are on the plus side, you won't get a reload bonus! I know they advertise a 20% reload bonus and I only been getting 10% on my reloads but I deal with them cause they pay like clockwork! And there website never goes down! Customer service is OK! Don't like not being able to see the lines till 11 am, but like I said as long as my money is there the same day I request it I'll keep playing there!
Morgan,
The problem is that mnay books are fearful of players abusing the bonuses. There are some books that are far worse than FF. To give you an example. Last year I played at betallworld during baseball season. By the end of August I was around break even or down a little, and I withdrew my balance. Then 8 months later in April, I decided to try them out again. I first had to get my account reactivated since it hadn't been used in over 6 months. And when I asked for the 10% deposit bonus they said no. The reason was because I had withdrawn money 8 months ago, and they wouldn't give me a bonus on those funds. IMO, that's an insane policy.
Bottom line, regardless of what is adverised, if the bonus is important to you, always call before sendig your money.
The problem is that mnay books are fearful of players abusing the bonuses. There are some books that are far worse than FF. To give you an example. Last year I played at betallworld during baseball season. By the end of August I was around break even or down a little, and I withdrew my balance. Then 8 months later in April, I decided to try them out again. I first had to get my account reactivated since it hadn't been used in over 6 months. And when I asked for the 10% deposit bonus they said no. The reason was because I had withdrawn money 8 months ago, and they wouldn't give me a bonus on those funds. IMO, that's an insane policy.
Bottom line, regardless of what is adverised, if the bonus is important to you, always call before sendig your money.
Good point Marc,
Now I know Marc...he has accounts here and I respect him as a sharp player. I'll take his action when he wants to play with me, and MORE IMPORTANTLY, I'll pay him the same day when we wants his money. But if he is up on me (net), I cannot pay a bonus to him to deposit more money.
You guys have to decide whether or not the risk of not getting paid in a shaky book is worth the extra bonus you might get there. Its like Macy's calculating a certain level of loss due to theft, or a bar due to overpour and buybacks.
I think most of you know enough not to go to NO NAME books, but the past few years have shown that books that offer unrealistic bonuses, and line policies, offers, etc. MIGHT have an incresed chance of going under and stiffing the players.
Morgan, if you think you deserve a bonus on a deposit, call or email me, and I'll judge it on its merits. Its possible that you lost money in the casino, and that does NOT show on my sportsbook software. So if that is the case, I can verify your casino activity and get you a bonus. But if you won in the SB (net), and withdrew your funds, then NO, I am not going to give you a bonus to send back the same money. I have to pay Transfer fees on all this....when you send me Neteller it is 4% to me, WU averages 9%, and you want a bonus on back and forthing money? I'll do it for someone who is losing, but I cannot for someone who is positive. Find a book that will, and I'll show you a book that will eventually go under (with you money)!!
Now I know Marc...he has accounts here and I respect him as a sharp player. I'll take his action when he wants to play with me, and MORE IMPORTANTLY, I'll pay him the same day when we wants his money. But if he is up on me (net), I cannot pay a bonus to him to deposit more money.
You guys have to decide whether or not the risk of not getting paid in a shaky book is worth the extra bonus you might get there. Its like Macy's calculating a certain level of loss due to theft, or a bar due to overpour and buybacks.
I think most of you know enough not to go to NO NAME books, but the past few years have shown that books that offer unrealistic bonuses, and line policies, offers, etc. MIGHT have an incresed chance of going under and stiffing the players.
Morgan, if you think you deserve a bonus on a deposit, call or email me, and I'll judge it on its merits. Its possible that you lost money in the casino, and that does NOT show on my sportsbook software. So if that is the case, I can verify your casino activity and get you a bonus. But if you won in the SB (net), and withdrew your funds, then NO, I am not going to give you a bonus to send back the same money. I have to pay Transfer fees on all this....when you send me Neteller it is 4% to me, WU averages 9%, and you want a bonus on back and forthing money? I'll do it for someone who is losing, but I cannot for someone who is positive. Find a book that will, and I'll show you a book that will eventually go under (with you money)!!
Nate:
I don't think any book should pay a reload bonus to a guy with a positive balance.
Player deps 2 dimes gets a 300 bonus & wins say 2 dimes, so balance now at 4300.
Player pulls 3300 with 1 dime balance. Blows the dime. Players net is +1300
Now player wants a dep another dime and get a 200 bonus to reload? LMAO.
Bonus reloads should be reserved for losing non professional players only.
I don't think any book should pay a reload bonus to a guy with a positive balance.
Player deps 2 dimes gets a 300 bonus & wins say 2 dimes, so balance now at 4300.
Player pulls 3300 with 1 dime balance. Blows the dime. Players net is +1300
Now player wants a dep another dime and get a 200 bonus to reload? LMAO.
Bonus reloads should be reserved for losing non professional players only.
Nate:
IF ONLY YOU COULD?
Of course you could and SHOULD make those your rules !!
It's useless to pay winning players a bonus. A Bonus SHOULD BE AWARDED AND ADVERTISED AS BEING AWARDED AT MANAGEMENTS SOLE DISCRESION, and rules related to bonuses should be clearly posted.
Otherwise, you have a situation where the hustler is getting hustled.
IF ONLY YOU COULD?
Of course you could and SHOULD make those your rules !!
It's useless to pay winning players a bonus. A Bonus SHOULD BE AWARDED AND ADVERTISED AS BEING AWARDED AT MANAGEMENTS SOLE DISCRESION, and rules related to bonuses should be clearly posted.
Otherwise, you have a situation where the hustler is getting hustled.
And that is exactly why we don't give bonuses to people that are positive. And as for "professional" bettors...its a matter of identifying them. If you come in Neteller, you can either defer your bonus till you meet the rollover, or be limited to a dime. This is to defeat the "bet balance and Withdraw" way of collecting a bonus and not meeting the rollover...but the bonus whores just keep coming.....Check the thread today on guys who want to meet their rollover by predicying rainouts!!!!
IMO, the problem that books have with bonuses is that they aren't looked at correctly, and therefor not structured properly.
A bonus is not free moeny. A bonus is a wager being made by the book and the plaer whereby the book is betting the the player will lose more than the bonusprior to meeting the rollover requiremnt. Now for some players, this is the only true wager they really want to make. And in those cases the book, may decide that those aren't the players they want. But in some cases you may have a square who wins and withdraws his money, but it's still worth offering him a bonus, if thats the only way to get him to play with you.ANd in some cases you may have a sharp guy who lost, but now that you realize he's sharp, you don't want to offer him a bonus, because it's still a bad bet. Maybe for some customers, in order for the bonus to be profitable you need an 8x rollover while for others a 5x should suffice.
The ideal bonus system is one which is tailored made for the customer. And perhaps this is simply not practical. But the determining factor on wether a bonus is given should be on whether you think the player will winin the future, not whether he's won in the past. Afterall, why let a square beat you, only to give the money back to another book the following month.
A bonus is not free moeny. A bonus is a wager being made by the book and the plaer whereby the book is betting the the player will lose more than the bonusprior to meeting the rollover requiremnt. Now for some players, this is the only true wager they really want to make. And in those cases the book, may decide that those aren't the players they want. But in some cases you may have a square who wins and withdraws his money, but it's still worth offering him a bonus, if thats the only way to get him to play with you.ANd in some cases you may have a sharp guy who lost, but now that you realize he's sharp, you don't want to offer him a bonus, because it's still a bad bet. Maybe for some customers, in order for the bonus to be profitable you need an 8x rollover while for others a 5x should suffice.
The ideal bonus system is one which is tailored made for the customer. And perhaps this is simply not practical. But the determining factor on wether a bonus is given should be on whether you think the player will winin the future, not whether he's won in the past. Afterall, why let a square beat you, only to give the money back to another book the following month.
Nate,
What kind of bonus can I get with you if I make a PrePaidATM Deposit right now ?
I have won some and lost some, I would say I am probably down overall but I am not for sure.
My Acct # is 42782, and the name is the same. I am going to make a PrePaidATM deposit in 15 minutes somewhere. What kind of bonus will you give me ? I am not near a phone at the moment.
42782.
Thanks, Danny.
What kind of bonus can I get with you if I make a PrePaidATM Deposit right now ?
I have won some and lost some, I would say I am probably down overall but I am not for sure.
My Acct # is 42782, and the name is the same. I am going to make a PrePaidATM deposit in 15 minutes somewhere. What kind of bonus will you give me ? I am not near a phone at the moment.
42782.
Thanks, Danny.
DANNY,
You've been inactive a while-....I WANT YOU BACK
Send me a nickel or better, I'll give you your choice 15% cash, or 30% Bonus Play...same thing by me...Tell them I authorized as a renewal. They can always reach me on my cell even if I'm not in the office.
Welcome back and Good luck to you.
Nate
You've been inactive a while-....I WANT YOU BACK
Send me a nickel or better, I'll give you your choice 15% cash, or 30% Bonus Play...same thing by me...Tell them I authorized as a renewal. They can always reach me on my cell even if I'm not in the office.
Welcome back and Good luck to you.
Nate
MorganKane,,Your title on this thread is seriously misleading. It is standard practice by the majority of books that they will not give you a reload bonus if your last deposit/withdrawal transaction was a withdrawal. Wagering transactions have nothing to do with this calculation. I am certainly not a fan of first fidelity and I only know of one book that will allow you to immediately reload with a 15% bonus ,5x rollover, after youve taken a withdrawal of any amount. The book will remain nameless because it seems that every time I give props to a book for how good their bonus policies are,they change it. And to say that a book will eventually go out of business for offering this is an assumption, since Ive been using them consistently for over a year and half with 0 problems.
