First ever time the Senate has voted successfully to overturn a presidential veto

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BREAKING NEWS: Senate votes 97-1 to overturn Obama's veto of bill allowing 9/11 victims and families to SUE Saudi Arabia over attacks

• 97-1 vote in favor of overturning a ban on 9/11 victims and families suing Saudi government for alleged role in attacks
• Elements of its government are alleged to have been involved in plotting the attack
• Blow to Obama on foreign policy paves way for a showdown in Congress before he leaves office
• First ever time the Senate has voted successfully to overturn a presidential veto
• House of Representatives expected to vote later on Wednesday and would need two-thirds majority of members to completely overturn veto
• White House condemns move as worst thing Senate has done in decades
• 15 of the 19 9/11 hijackers were Saudi, a fact which has fueled claims of official complicity in the atrocity

By ASSOCIATED PRESS

 

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The Senate voted on Tuesday to overturn President Barack Obama's veto of a bill that would allow the families of 9/11 victims and their families to sue the government of Saudi Arabia.
It voted 97 to one against the veto, paving the way for a showdown in the House of Represenatives.
With elections just over a month away, many lawmakers are reluctant to oppose a measure backed by 9/11 families who say they are still seeking justice 15 years after the attacks that killed nearly 3,000 people.
'I will bet that Obama's veto will not be sustained,' Harry Reid of Nevada, the Senate's top Democrat, said before the vote. He was the only to vote to uphold the veto.

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Policy blow: Obama now faces a battle to stop his veto being overturned in the lower house. He had just been presented with a NASCAR helmet in the White House when the Senate voted

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Historic moment: The Senate's first ever vote to overturn an Obama veto was by 97-1

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Leaders: Chuck Schumer, the Democratic New York senator and John Cornyn, Republican from Texas, led the effort to vote to overturn the veto

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The Saudi connection: Fifteen of the 19 who committed the worst ever terror attack on the U.S. were Saudi - a fact which has fueled claims of its government having a role in the attacks. The Saudi nationals were: Top row - left to right: Abdulaziz al-Omari; Wail al-Shehri; Waleed al-Shehri; Satal al-Suqami ; Mohand al-Shehri. Middle - left to right: Hamza al-Ghamdi; Ahmed al-Ghamdi; Hani Hanjour; Khalid al-Mihdhar; Majed Moqed. Bottom, left to right: Nawaf al-Hamzi; Salem al-Hamz; ,Ahmed al-Haznawi; Ahmed al-Nami; Saeed al Ghamdi.

In a letter to Reid and the Senate's top Republican, Obama warned the bill could cause chaos in U.S. foreign affairs, as other countries would use the measure to justify the creation of ways to target 'U.S. policies and activities that they oppose.'
'As a result, our nation and its armed forces, State Department, intelligence officials and others may find themselves subject to lawsuits in foreign courts.' Obama wrote in a letter delivered Tuesday.

 

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[h=3]WHITE HOUSE HITS BACK[/h]The White House said the vote to override the president's veto of the September 11 legislation is an 'embarrassing' shirking of its duties.
White House spokesman Josh Earnest claimed members of the Senate Judiciary Committee were unfamiliar with the bill's impact on military personnel and voted to uphold it anyway.
Earnest called the vote the 'single most embarrassing thing' the Senate has done in decades and 'an abdication' of its responsibility.
The comments reflect White House frustration after failing to persuade Senate Democrats to stand by the president. If the House follows suit, the override will be Obama's first.

 

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Defense Secretary Ash Carter, in a letter Monday to a senior member of Congress, said he's sympathetic to the intent of the measure. But the legislation could lead to the public disclosure of American secrets and even undercut counterterrorism efforts by sowing mistrust among U.S. partners and allies, according to Carter.
After the Senate votes, the House is expected to follow before lawmakers depart Washington to campaign.
If the House also overrides, the bill would become law. During his nearly two full terms in office, Obama has never had a veto overridden by Congress.
Despite reversing Obama's decision, several senators said defects in the bill could open a legal Pandora's box, triggering lawsuits from people in other countries seeking redress for injuries or deaths caused by military actions in which the U.S. may have had a role.
In a letter Tuesday to Senate leaders, Obama said the bill would erode sovereign immunity principles that prevent foreign litigants 'from second-guessing our counterterrorism operations and other actions that we take every day.'
But one of the bill's leading proponents, Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, dismissed Obama's concerns as 'unpersuasive.' Cornyn, the Senate's No. 2 Republican, and other supporters said the bill is narrowly tailored and applies only to acts of terrorism that occur on U.S. soil.
'This bill is about respecting the voices and rights of American victims,' Cornyn said.
Families of the victims and their attorneys disputed concerns over the legislation as fearmongering aimed at derailing the legislation that they have long urged Congress to pass.

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Leader of evil ring: Mohamed Atta was the overall leader of the 9/11 attacks

Sen. Ben Cardin of Maryland, one of the Democrats who broke with Obama and voted to override, said 'the risks of shielding the perpetrators of terrorism from justice are greater than the risks this legislation may pose to America's presence around the world.'
The legislation gives victims' families the right to sue in U.S. court for any role that elements of the Saudi government may have played in the 2001 attacks. Fifteen of the 19 Sept. 11 hijackers were Saudi nationals.
Courts would be permitted to waive a claim of foreign sovereign immunity when an act of terrorism occurs inside U.S. borders, according to the terms of the bill. Saudi Arabia has objected vehemently to the legislation.
Obama vetoed the measure last week, telling lawmakers the bill would make the U.S. vulnerable to retaliatory litigation in foreign courts that could put U.S. troops in legal jeopardy.
The bill's proponents have disputed Obama's rationale as 'unconvincing and unsupportable,' saying the measure is narrowly tailored and applies only to acts of terrorism that occur on U.S. soil.

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Foreign ally: The measure against Saudi is opposed by Obama who sees the country, led by King Salman (center) as a crucial part of U.S strategy

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Horror: 15 years on from the 9/11 attacks, the victims who survived and the families of the lost, are still fighting to sue Saudi Arabia.

But Obama said foreign governments would be able to act 'reciprocally' and allow their courts to exercise jurisdiction over the United States and its employees for allegedly causing injuries overseas through American support to third parties.




He cited as notional examples actions that might be taken overseas by U.S.-backed armed militias and the improper use by foreign forces of American military equipment.
Carter amplified Obama's concerns in a Sept. 26 letter to Rep. Mac Thornberry of Texas, the Republican chairman of the House Armed Services Committee and an opponent of the legislation. Thornberry last week urged his GOP colleagues to let Obama's veto stand.
In the letter, Carter described the potential for litigants to seek classified intelligence data and analysis and sensitive operational information to establish their cases in what could be an 'intrusive discovery process.'
If the U.S. were sued overseas, a foreign court would decide whether the information should be protected from disclosure, he said. Paradoxically, the information could be central to a defense against the accusations.
'Disclosure could put the United States in the difficult position of choosing between disclosing classified or otherwise sensitive information or suffering adverse rulings and potentially large damage awards for our refusal to do so,' Carter wrote.
Kristen Breitweiser, a 9/11 widow and co-chair of September 11th Advocates, criticized Carter's assessment, saying that the defense secretary had testified before Congress last week that he wasn't an expert on the bill.

 

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SAUDI'S REVENGE WARNING

Saudi Arabia and its allies are warning that U.S. legislation allowing the kingdom to be sued for the 9/11 attacks will have negative repercussions.
The kingdom maintains an arsenal of tools to retaliate with, including curtailing official contacts, pulling billions of dollars from the U.S. economy, and persuading its close allies in the Gulf Cooperation Council to scale back counterterrorism cooperation, investments and U.S. access to important regional air bases.
'This should be clear to America and to the rest of the world: When one GCC state is targeted unfairly, the others stand around it,' said Abdulkhaleq Abdullah, an Emirati Gulf specialist and professor of political science at United Arab Emirates University.
Saudi Foreign Minister Adel al-Jubeir told reporters in June that the U.S. has the most to lose if JASTA is enacted. Despite reports that Riyadh threatened to pull billions of dollars from the U.S. economy if the bill becomes law, al-Jubeir says Saudi Arabia has only warned that investor confidence in the U.S. could decline.

 

[superbeets]

About time. Worst president ever. And of COURSE the odious Harry Reid was the only one to support the idiot in the White House.

 

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In your face Barack.

 

[LENBO]

About time. Worst president ever. And of COURSE the odious Harry Reid was the only one to support the idiot in the White House.

Reid is a scumbag.

 

[SheriffJoe]

Reid is a scumbag.

Ever the loyal soldier to the bitter end.

 

[michael777]

Reid is a scumbag.

100% correct,as all liberals are

 

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Today a HISTORIC DAY, THE DAY


Obama got stuffed.


Saudi Arabia got stuffed.

 

[festeringZit]

Obama = worst President ever

 

[superbeets]

Obama = worst President ever

The damage he has done is probably irreparable. He thoroughly enjoyed destroying and humiliating America.

 

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Policy blow: Obama has never had his veto over-ridden by Congress, as happened on Wednesday. He had just been presented with a NASCAR helmet in the White House when the Senate voted

 

[GasMan]

Lol....and the legacy is sealed.

Great job you liberal losers. Nice pick.

Is it too late to say we told ya so....or should we wait on that?



And it typical piece of shit Hillary Clinton - Barry Sotero style Kaine skips the vote. Gee, you think that wasn't a political move?

What a loser.

 

[The Guesser]

About Time Obama got on the scoreboard. Would have been a shame to be the 1st POTUS since LBJ that didn't have any Vetoes overridden. Saint Ronnie with 9. Shush()*.

President	Regular vetoes	Pocket vetoes	Total vetoes	Vetoes overridden	Percentage vetoes overridden[SUP][2][/SUP]	Percentage regular vetoes overridden

Richard Nixon	27	17	43	7	16%	27%
Gerald Ford	48	18	66	12	18%	25%
Jimmy Carter	13	18	31	2	6%	15%
Ronald Reagan	39	39	78	9	12%	23%
George H. W. Bush[SUP][3][/SUP][SUP][4][/SUP]	29	15	44	1	2%	2%
Bill Clinton	36	1	37	2	5%	6%
George W. Bush	12	0	12	4	33%	36%
Barack Obama[SUP][5][/SUP]	12	0	12	1	8%	8%

 

[GasMan]

About Time Obama got on the scoreboard. Would have been a shame to be the 1st POTUS since LBJ that didn't have any Vetoes overridden. Saint Ronnie with 9. Shush()*.

President	Regular vetoes	Pocket vetoes	Total vetoes	Vetoes overridden	Percentage vetoes overridden[SUP][2][/SUP]	Percentage regular vetoes overridden

Richard Nixon	27	17	43	7	16%	27%
Gerald Ford	48	18	66	12	18%	25%
Jimmy Carter	13	18	31	2	6%	15%
Ronald Reagan	39	39	78	9	12%	23%
George H. W. Bush[SUP][3][/SUP][SUP][4][/SUP]	29	15	44	1	2%	2%
Bill Clinton	36	1	37	2	5%	6%
George W. Bush	12	0	12	4	33%	36%
Barack Obama[SUP][5][/SUP]	12	0	12	1	8%	8%

And the Repubs are accused of stonewalling?

Even when you gloat you lose. Get it?

 

[The Guesser]

And the Repubs are accused of stonewalling?

Even when you gloat you lose. Get it?

Of course they stonewalled, you Anti Semitic Idiot. Their leader admitted it years ago.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/25/robert-draper-anti-obama-campaign_n_1452899.html


You lose, again, as you always do. Get it?

 

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[FONT=&quot]The House of Representatives voted 348-77 against the veto, hours after the Senate rejected it 97-1, meaning the JASTA will become law.


[/FONT][FONT=&quot]Eight years without Congress overriding a veto was the Kennedy-Johnson administration in the 1960s.
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[jimmythegreek]

ford was the best, only there two years yet vetoed democrat crap 12 times.