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Rice oversees the greatest communication failure in the history of this country and she is promoted

If this is true then Bush indeed just cemented his place in history as the worse leader in the history of this country
 

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where is the outrage at this moron mayor? why are there hundreds of school buses sitting in a flooded parking lot in new orleans? why didnt he provide a way out for the people in the projects BEFORE the hurricane hit? everyone knew this was gonna be terrible and that moron mayor knew better than anyone that there were poor people in the projects who could not get out no matter how many warnings were aired on the radio and tv before the storm hit.
 

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Great, a FEMA Director that isn't allowed to handle emergencies!

If you wrote a screenplay about these fools nobody would ever buy it. It would be considered just too bizarre for even science fiction.
Oh well, everybody take Bush's advice and PRAY! Funny, that's what I have been doing ever since he was installed as president.
 

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blue edwards said:
where is the outrage at this moron mayor? why are there hundreds of school buses sitting in a flooded parking lot in new orleans? why didnt he provide a way out for the people in the projects BEFORE the hurricane hit? everyone knew this was gonna be terrible and that moron mayor knew better than anyone that there were poor people in the projects who could not get out no matter how many warnings were aired on the radio and tv before the storm hit.

The buses had no problem running election day 2004 taking these poor people to the polls.
 

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doc mercer said:
I admire Bush for shit canning this scumbag.... good for him if this story is true

Huh?

Is this some sort of halucination? Doc admring Bush????????

Congratulation Doc!

You gave the man a compliment! I'm still amazed!
 

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I'll say it again, anyone in the private sector who performed equal to the Mayor, the Governor and the Fema Director, would be unemployed.
 

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Sam Odom said:
The buses had no problem running election day 2004 taking these poor people to the polls.

They had about 4 years advance notice for that election, there was no hurricane, and the bus drivers weren't fleeing the city themselves...stupid comparison. So far the only resource that has been pinpointed was the buses themselves...unless you guys have access to the lists of personnel and the minute-by-minute actions of all the city employees leading up to the moment the hurricane made landfall, you're just flapping your gums.
 

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edub69 said:
They had about 4 years advance notice for that election, there was no hurricane, and the bus drivers weren't fleeing the city themselves...stupid comparison. So far the only resource that has been pinpointed was the buses themselves...unless you guys have access to the lists of personnel and the minute-by-minute actions of all the city employees leading up to the moment the hurricane made landfall, you're just flapping your gums.

the minute that they knew the hurricane was gonna hit new orleans, the mayor should have started making plans to get the people in the projects who wanted to leave out. they knew this storm was coming for at least 36 hours.

was president bush supposed to organize this evacuation?
 

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Judge Wapner said:
I'll say it again, anyone in the private sector who performed equal to the Mayor, the Governor and the Fema Director, would be unemployed.

Glad to see this idiot fired. Should be shot for negligence and stupidity.

Maybe these people will move to Costa Rica and open a book. We would have a greater chance of winning. The problem would be making sure these crooked bastards stayed awake to hang a line, write tickets, and send payouts.

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I'm not making excuses. I'm just wondering how you guys seem to know exactly who was doing what in the lead-up to the storm. I believe I have said I blame no one for this, if not I will say it now. The people who were unable to get themselves out, were screwed. Do you really think someone can organize the removal of 100,000 people (the amount of people in New Orleans estimated to be without personal transportation) from a city in 36 hours?

The only blame I am prepared to lay at anyone's feet starts after the hurricane had passed through. The mayor could have done other things than blame Bush and go on talk radio shows, and Bush should not have been on stage in San Diego playing air guitar, and then returning to Crawford to finish his vacation. They have both shown very poorly throughout this ordeal.

Try reading here, and enlighten us, because it's a long document that I don't have time to read at this moment. However, you will see that the plan is based on a Category 3 storm.


http://www.cityofno.com/portal.aspx?portal=46&tabid=26
 

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edub69 said:
I'm not making excuses. I'm just wondering how you guys seem to know exactly who was doing what in the lead-up to the storm. I believe I have said I blame no one for this, if not I will say it now. The people who were unable to get themselves out, were screwed. Do you really think someone can organize the removal of 100,000 people (the amount of people in New Orleans estimated to be without personal transportation) from a city in 36 hours?

The only blame I am prepared to lay at anyone's feet starts after the hurricane had passed through. The mayor could have done other things than blame Bush and go on talk radio shows, and Bush should not have been on stage in San Diego playing air guitar, and then returning to Crawford to finish his vacation. They have both shown very poorly throughout this ordeal.

fair enough
 

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blue edwards said:
the minute that they knew the hurricane was gonna hit new orleans, the mayor should have started making plans to get the people in the projects who wanted to leave out. they knew this storm was coming for at least 36 hours.

was president bush supposed to organize this evacuation?

Like it or not, there is truth to this statement!!!! Bush and his cronies are guilty of reacting very poorly to this situation, but the Governor and mayor are also very responsible for failing to evacuate as many people as possible out of the city even with the advance warning!!!! Matter of fact that govermental agency called NOAA elerted these people in time with a message that was also recieved by the press informing them of levy breaks, mass flooding, people trapped in the city for days!!!

These people failed their own people immensely and you democrat sheep should admit as much!!!


BTW, the mandatory evacuation order should have been given out 24 hours before the storm struck and all these people should have been bussed out by force if need be!!!!


If an evacuation is ordered then every law abiding citizen must get out by personal means or by means provided by the government..This issue alone would have protected the city after the flood and prevented the mass chaos that ensued after!!!
 

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Good. It had to be done. He should be on suicide watch. He was/is a political hack. :finger: him.

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Fair Post Edub. But let me ask this you pose the Question:

"Do you really think someone can organize the removal of 100,000 people (the amount of people in New Orleans estimated to be without personal transportation) from a city in 36 hours?"

I assume you think the Answer is No. My answer would be I don't know. Because the plan Should have already existed, right? And Secondly if it was NOT possible as you think, I'd assume you'd agree is it WAS possible to stack the Superdome with ALL the supplies needed in 36 hours before the storm. so that people could holke up there for a week if needed.

Also, if you are correct and 36 hours is Not enough time to evacuate a city when sky's are clear, the people aren't shooting and looting, the Streets are not filled with water, why is the 7-8 days it took to get people out such an unreasonable amount of time when those terrible conditions do exist?
 

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Those are good questions Koidog. I'm going to have to think about those and get back to you, as I am about to head out for the weekend. Say hello to all your veteran buddies for me:toast:
 

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Koi and Dub you are both great posters, I enjoy reading both of your opinions.
 

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koidog said:
Fair Post Edub. But let me ask this you pose the Question:

"Do you really think someone can organize the removal of 100,000 people (the amount of people in New Orleans estimated to be without personal transportation) from a city in 36 hours?"

I assume you think the Answer is No. My answer would be I don't know. Because the plan Should have already existed, right? And Secondly if it was NOT possible as you think, I'd assume you'd agree is it WAS possible to stack the Superdome with ALL the supplies needed in 36 hours before the storm. so that people could holke up there for a week if needed.

Also, if you are correct and 36 hours is Not enough time to evacuate a city when sky's are clear, the people aren't shooting and looting, the Streets are not filled with water, why is the 7-8 days it took to get people out such an unreasonable amount of time when those terrible conditions do exist?



Actually its not that hard to evacuate 100,000 people in 36 hours...

If you got some one who knows what they are doing, these people could have been moved out in 18 hours!!!


100,000 people is not that many people!!!! (Just imagine that during a FLA vs UGA matchup you get close to that number in one city, one town, one stadium, albeit all with readily available means of transportation. All come in and get out in relatively a short amount of time)


But like you said there should have been a plan to evacuate them, but the governor of the state was too stupid to take the single largest credible threat that faced her state seriously enough!!!!

She apparently did not read one single report, one single book one friggin newspaper that predicted the exact kind of catastrophe that would occur should such a hurricane hit..(i am shocked daily as i find more and more sources of warnings that predicted this shit storm to a T including a story in the LA Picayune (spelling)


Moving 100,000 people out of a state should be a cake walk if planned well, matter of fact in this day and age of Al qeada, 100,000 should not even be considered a challenge!!! A task may be but it should not be that hard!!!!:smoker2: ..


Ps...I am just curious about this, that NOLA area was a major shipping point, i am assuming that it had many rail way lines leading out of the city, they could have simply loaded every one on those trains and pulled them out in under 4 hours...I could be wrong in making this assumption since i dont know the NOLA rail way system but to me it seems like simple logic
 

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edub69 said:
Those are good questions Koidog. I'm going to have to think about those and get back to you, as I am about to head out for the weekend. Say hello to all your veteran buddies for me:toast:

You're going out Man? Good for you, you're making progress I see.
 

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RobFunk said:
Koi and Dub you are both great posters, I enjoy reading both of your opinions.

Thanks Rob, and after I gave you some shit when I first came on.
 

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