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I would like to point out how the party of "small government" and less taxes is anything but.I will lay out how the party of "lower taxes" is really taxing you in a variety of other ways, including one I had never considered. My plea has always been to know the difference between reducing "income taxes" and payroll taxes, as most Americans are constantly being sold on the idea that the GOP will reduce "income" taxes and this means more money in the pockets of middle-to-lower class Americans. And if anybody needs a reminder of how these so-called "conservatives" come up with solutions to help Americans who are struggling, this year we got our "stimulus" check--($600 to $1800) that will change your life!
Point being: conservatives, time to take back your party! As for Democrats, we could go on for days about how that party has been hijacked as well, but the GOP are the ones in charge and in my opinion are nothing but a bunch of kleptocrats who keep selling you on the same tired ideals, which they completely abandon once in power.I ask you, are we that stupid?
I am registered Independant who has voted with the GOP for the past twenty years.But I'll be shot before I vote Republican this year. Why? Because the GOP is a pack of remorseless liars, and not about the little things. About the single biggest unifying principle of conservatism -- limited government and low taxes.Last week, I sat and watched Republican candidates speak at the convention. Each one stood up before the crowd, and in turn spoke the Lie. The Big Lie, the Mother of All Mendacities: That the Republican Party is in favor of small government and low taxes.
In my lifetime, no Republican president has ever left office with a smaller government than he found on Inauguration Day. Nixon certainly didn't. Reagan oversaw the largest expansion of defense spending in U.S. history in pure dollar terms, and ran up record deficits in the process. Bush 39 and Bush 41,neither one came within a country mile of balancing a budget. Every time you turn around, the budget is bigger. Even when the military is smaller, the defense budget grows. The Medicare budget grows, Social Security spending grows. Where's the small government?At least liberals don't pretend.
Republicans whine about pork-barrel spending, but they perfected legislative earmarks, through which they funnel billions. In the old days of the Democrats, most spending had to pass the Ways and Means Committee to be added to the budget -- at least some oversight. Now it is nothing but a free-for-all, and we have the GOP to thank for it.The second, more subtle lie is that Republicans cut taxes. Yes they do, on paper, but when you borrow trillions to cover budget shortages, are you really cutting taxes? To borrow money, the government has to float bonds, and the more bonds it sells, the higher the interest rate it has to pay out to make the bonds attractive, and citizens pay higher interest rates on everything from mortgage payments to credit card bills because Republican presidents remain on an endless spending binge.Who pays for all this? Most likely our children, the children of the middle class.So you do pay more taxes. The tax does not come out of your paycheck; it is hidden in your mortgage note. And in the end, you will probably pay more in higher interest payments that you ever would if the government would do the manly thing and raise taxes to pay for its profligacy.
Sometimes, a Democrat will come close to saying: I will tax you, but I will provide better services to you in return. It doesn't often work out that way, but at least when I pay taxes and approve higher taxes it means I have a right to raise my expectations and demand something in return.Republicans have an opposite, ugly calculus: I lowered your taxes so I don't owe you rights, justice, health care or any other consideration. You got your stimulus check so go on and shut the hell up.Tell me I'm wrong. Tell me Republicans haven't figured out that as long as the electorate gets rebate checks and cheap oil and tax cuts no one is going to care what the government is up to.
I am not hoping for an era of bigger government, but these liars need to be put in check.This election could be the punch in the mouth that Republicans need to get back to governing as a conservative entity instead of pretending to be one.
 

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Unfortunately, both parties have abandoned their true missions.

Vote none of the above. Just make sure you are registered.

Not much anyone can do at this point, except at your local and state level.
 
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I would like to point out how the party of "small government" and less taxes is anything but.I will lay out how the party of "lower taxes" is really taxing you in a variety of other ways, including one I had never considered. My plea has always been to know the difference between reducing "income taxes" and payroll taxes, as most Americans are constantly being sold on the idea that the GOP will reduce "income" taxes and this means more money in the pockets of middle-to-lower class Americans. And if anybody needs a reminder of how these so-called "conservatives" come up with solutions to help Americans who are struggling, this year we got our "stimulus" check--($600 to $1800) that will change your life!
Point being: conservatives, time to take back your party! As for Democrats, we could go on for days about how that party has been hijacked as well, but the GOP are the ones in charge and in my opinion are nothing but a bunch of kleptocrats who keep selling you on the same tired ideals, which they completely abandon once in power.I ask you, are we that stupid?
I am registered Independant who has voted with the GOP for the past twenty years.But I'll be shot before I vote Republican this year. Why? Because the GOP is a pack of remorseless liars, and not about the little things. About the single biggest unifying principle of conservatism -- limited government and low taxes.Last week, I sat and watched Republican candidates speak at the convention. Each one stood up before the crowd, and in turn spoke the Lie. The Big Lie, the Mother of All Mendacities: That the Republican Party is in favor of small government and low taxes.
In my lifetime, no Republican president has ever left office with a smaller government than he found on Inauguration Day. Nixon certainly didn't. Reagan oversaw the largest expansion of defense spending in U.S. history in pure dollar terms, and ran up record deficits in the process. Bush 39 and Bush 41,neither one came within a country mile of balancing a budget. Every time you turn around, the budget is bigger. Even when the military is smaller, the defense budget grows. The Medicare budget grows, Social Security spending grows. Where's the small government?At least liberals don't pretend.
Republicans whine about pork-barrel spending, but they perfected legislative earmarks, through which they funnel billions. In the old days of the Democrats, most spending had to pass the Ways and Means Committee to be added to the budget -- at least some oversight. Now it is nothing but a free-for-all, and we have the GOP to thank for it.The second, more subtle lie is that Republicans cut taxes. Yes they do, on paper, but when you borrow trillions to cover budget shortages, are you really cutting taxes? To borrow money, the government has to float bonds, and the more bonds it sells, the higher the interest rate it has to pay out to make the bonds attractive, and citizens pay higher interest rates on everything from mortgage payments to credit card bills because Republican presidents remain on an endless spending binge.Who pays for all this? Most likely our children, the children of the middle class.So you do pay more taxes. The tax does not come out of your paycheck; it is hidden in your mortgage note. And in the end, you will probably pay more in higher interest payments that you ever would if the government would do the manly thing and raise taxes to pay for its profligacy.
Sometimes, a Democrat will come close to saying: I will tax you, but I will provide better services to you in return. It doesn't often work out that way, but at least when I pay taxes and approve higher taxes it means I have a right to raise my expectations and demand something in return.Republicans have an opposite, ugly calculus: I lowered your taxes so I don't owe you rights, justice, health care or any other consideration. You got your stimulus check so go on and shut the hell up.Tell me I'm wrong. Tell me Republicans haven't figured out that as long as the electorate gets rebate checks and cheap oil and tax cuts no one is going to care what the government is up to.
I am not hoping for an era of bigger government, but these liars need to be put in check.This election could be the punch in the mouth that Republicans need to get back to governing as a conservative entity instead of pretending to be one.

I agree with you. I am incensed at the out of control spending in
our government on all sides of the aisle.

I'm voting Republican in November, and hoping that McCain will
rein in the spending, as he's promised.
 

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Reagan oversaw the largest expansion of defense spending in U.S. history in pure dollar terms.

Which is why I vote Repub. most years. I'm against this sham of a war in the ME.........

BUT: BO (or any Lib. candidate) will shred the Pentagon budget & fuck this country all up.

I'm pro-choice, usually anti-war, not a religious nut, could give a f*ck if gays marry.....but usually vote Repub. B/C this country needs a strong military....Navy more specifically.....Carrier battle groups more specific still.

Peace through strength bitches.....China's up next.
 

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Which is why I vote Repub. most years. I'm against this sham of a war in the ME.........

BUT: BO (or any Lib. candidate) will shred the Pentagon budget & fuck this country all up.

I'm pro-choice, usually anti-war, not a religious nut, could give a f*ck if gays marry.....but usually vote Repub. B/C this country needs a strong military....Navy more specifically.....Carrier battle groups more specific still.

Peace through strength bitches.....China's up next.

You should have more faith in our Military Commanders.. Our Military will be just as strong under a Democrat as a Republican, the only difference may be that the Democrat wont get us into a war thats costing billions of dollars that You and Me and our kids and our kids kids are gonna pay for... Dont believe the hype about BO "shred the pentagon budget & fuck this country all up." Do you think that a republican will be any different than what Bush has done to our budget and how BUSH has FUCKED up THIS COUNTRY? Bush and Mccain are the same... we cant survive another 4 years of Bush Policies.. If you believe Mccain is any different I got a bridge to sell ya... its time for Change, Barack Obama 08.
 

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I do have faith in our military commanders. And I agree that the billions spent in Iraq could've been way better spent elsewhere (militarily).

I don't vote on party lines and I pretty much am against most of the GOP agenda. But I wholeheartedly agree in peace through strength and think that that is best represented with a Navy that can have a Carrier battle group, a half dozen subs & a couple teams of Seals or other SpecOp groups anywhere in the world within a few days. Not too mention the ability to disintegrate an ICBM from space if needed in the future.

I realize many people will think I'm misinformed for being a single issue voter but so be it. I believe that BO would seek to redistribute a substantial amount of the P-gon's budget towards socialistic programs. Thus, my vote against him.
 

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They have turned lying and manipulation on a massive scale into an art form. North America is a field of operations for the Pentagon, and they have used scientifically created propaganda campaigns on the American people. The neocon/corporate controlled US government is a fascist state.
 

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They are great at campaigning.

McCain-Palin Crowd-Size Estimates Not Backed by Officials

By Lorraine Woellert and Jeff Bliss

Sept. 13 (Bloomberg) -- Senator John McCain has drawn some of the biggest crowds of his presidential campaign since adding Alaska Governor Sarah Palin to his ticket on Aug. 29. Now officials say they can't substantiate the figures McCain's aides are claiming.

McCain aide Kimmie Lipscomb told reporters on Sept. 10 that an outdoor rally in Fairfax City, Virginia, drew 23,000 people, attributing the crowd estimate to a fire marshal.

Fairfax City Fire Marshal Andrew Wilson said his office did not supply that number to the campaign and could not confirm it. Wilson, in an interview, said the fire department does not monitor attendance at outdoor events.

In recent days, journalists attending the rallies have been raising questions about the crowd estimates with the campaign. In a story on Sept. 11 about Palin's attraction for some Virginia women voters, Washington Post reporter Marc Fisher estimated the crowd to be 8,000, not the 23,000 cited by the campaign.

``The 23,000 figure was substantiated on the ground,'' McCain spokesman Tucker Bounds said. ``The campaign is willing to stand by the fact that it was our biggest crowd to date.''

``Since day one, this campaign has been consistent that we're not going to win or lose based on crowd size but the substance of John McCain's record,'' Bounds said.
 

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Which is why I vote Repub. most years. I'm against this sham of a war in the ME.........

BUT: BO (or any Lib. candidate) will shred the Pentagon budget & fuck this country all up.

I'm pro-choice, usually anti-war, not a religious nut, could give a f*ck if gays marry.....but usually vote Repub. B/C this country needs a strong military....Navy more specifically.....Carrier battle groups more specific still.

Peace through strength bitches.....China's up next.

If you look at recent history its the neocon contolled Republicans that dream of shrinking the military not Dems. Now your response could be the standard "Bill Clinton tryed to gut the military" but all his cuts were mostly the closing of bases and not to infantry or calgary.The Repubs that are currently in charge want to privatize a good percentage of our fighting forces,which costs more for the american taxpayer.
 
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The Truth about the Bridge To Nowhere

In the 10 days since Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin was named John McCain's running mate, the McCain campaign has portrayed her final blow against the Bridge to Nowhere as a prime example of her opposition to wasteful spending and her willingness to challenge the status quo.

"I told the Congress 'thanks, but no thanks,' on that Bridge to Nowhere," Palin said at the Republican National Convention. Now comes the McCain campaign with a new TV ad that makes the same claim, even more boldly.
"She stopped the Bridge to Nowhere," the ad says, as the screen shows a photo of a stern-looking Palin superimposed on an aerial picture of blue water and islands.

We've addressed the bridge claim twice before, giving her a Full Flop for having first supported the bridge before opposing it, and a Half True for her original "thanks-but-no-thanks" claim. But since the campaign is making an even stronger boast with this TV ad, we are going to address it separately here.

First, we should point out that the ad is misleading because it appears to justify the claim with a newspaper article on the screen. "PALIN FLIES HIGH AS A REFORMER," says the headline from the Anchorage Daily News that scrolls onto the screen as the announcer says "she stopped the Bridge to Nowhere."

We think many viewers will get the impression that the Anchorage Daily News article backs up the claim. But alas, it is TV ad sleight-of-hand. The article merely says she "ordered her administration to seek fewer congressional earmarks" after the bridge became a symbol of pork-barrel spending. There are no other details about the project or her role in ending it.

The bridge, estimated to cost nearly $400-million, was to connect the city of Ketchikan (population 8,200) to Gravina, an island with just 50 residents but also an airport, and only accessible by a five-minute ferry ride.

The project came into national prominence when Taxpayers for Common Sense, an advocacy group that opposes wasteful spending, cited it as an extreme example of pork-barrel spending. The bridge's national notoriety was cemented with a Parade magazine cover story that ran Nov. 6, 2005, under the headline, “Are Your Tax Dollars Being Wasted?”

The project also raised bitter debate in Congress, and several attempts were made to yank funding for the project. In the fall of 2005, Congress removed the language specifically directing money to the bridge, but it kept the funding in place and left it up to Alaska to decide which transportation projects the state would like to spend it on. (Alaskans could have built the Bridge to Nowhere, but they no longer were required to, as had previously been the case.)

By the time Palin pulled the plug on the Gravina bridge project in September 2007, much of the federal funding for the bridge had already been diverted to other transportation projects. The bridge would cost $398-million, Palin said then, and Alaska was $329-million short.

“Ketchikan desires a better way to reach the airport, but the $398-million bridge is not the answer,” Palin said. “Despite the work of our congressional delegation, we are about $329-million short of full funding for the bridge project, and it’s clear that Congress has little interest in spending any more money on a bridge between Ketchikan and Gravina Island.”

Lois Epstein, director of the Alaska Transportation Priorities Project, which opposed funding for the Gravina bridge, said while it’s true that Palin formally put an end to the project, “It wasn’t really a bold move when she did it.”

Although the project had local support in Ketchikan, Epstein said, it was not a popular project around the state. Had Palin decided to continue the bridge project, Epstein said, it would have required either a lot more federal funding — which clearly was no longer supported in Congress — or for the state to pick up the bulk of the tab, at the expense of other more urgent road projects.

Keith Ashdown, a spokesman for Taxpayers for Common Sense, believes Palin has “hyperinflated her role” in killing the project.

“She put the final stake in the project,” Ashdown said. “But there was already tremendous momentum for the project to be scrapped. She gets credit for saying that they were not to go forward with the bridge, but it was at death’s door.”
So, no, Palin wasn't the only one who stopped the bridge. The project was facing nationwide opposition and the state, which could have built the bridge anyway, had already spent much of the money on higher priorities. Palin didn't kill it, she just performed the last rites. And the ad is misleading because it cites a newspaper article that doesn't provide any evidence that the boast is accurate.

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They have turned lying and manipulation on a massive scale into an art form. North America is a field of operations for the Pentagon, and they have used scientifically created propaganda campaigns on the American people. The neocon/corporate controlled US government is a fascist state.

blah blah blah.

Last I check Democrats controlled the Congress and Senate
 
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If you look at recent history its the neocon contolled Republicans that dream of shrinking the military not Dems. Now your response could be the standard "Bill Clinton tryed to gut the military" but all his cuts were mostly the closing of bases and not to infantry or calgary.The Repubs that are currently in charge want to privatize a good percentage of our fighting forces,which costs more for the american taxpayer.

Lies.
 

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