FDA to ban Vicodin & Percocet?!?

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Obama pro choice, except when it comes to Nyquil

Those #%%#$$#%$%$%$% "experts" can't find something better to do?

Some days this country feels like it took a bad hit of acid.

US panel to vote on painkiller restrictions

To reduce overdoses, US panel to vote on possible restrictions for Tylenol, other painkillers


  • By Matthew Perrone, AP Business Writer
  • On Tuesday June 30, 2009, 1:07 am EDT

<!-- ./end of article hd --> ADELPHI, Maryland (AP) -- Government experts are scheduled to vote on whether Nyquil and other combination cold medications should be pulled from the market to help curb deadly overdoses.
The Food and Drug Administration has assembled more than 35 experts for a two-day meeting to discuss and vote on ways to prevent overdose with acetaminophen -- the pain-relieving, fever-reducing ingredient in Tylenol and dozens of other prescription and over-the-counter medications.
Despite years of educational campaigns and other federal actions, acetaminophen remains the leading cause of liver failure in the U.S., sending 56,000 people to the emergency room annually, according to the FDA. There are about 200 acetaminophen-related deaths each year.
"It can happen to anybody, but it's very rare," said Dr. Lee Simon, an associate professor at Harvard Medical School, who attended Monday's meeting. "Obviously it's important that we improve the communication about these products because they are ubiquitous, and we still see people inadvertently overdosing."
The drugs that could be pulled off shelves are combination medications, such as Procter & Gamble's NyQuil or Novartis' Theraflu, which mix acetaminophen with other ingredients that treat cough and runny nose.
The FDA is not required to follow the advice of its panels, though it usually does. The panel vote is scheduled for Tuesday afternoon.
Manufacturers could lose hundreds of millions of dollars in sales if combination drugs are pulled from the market. Total sales of all acetaminophen drugs reached $2.6 billion last year, with 80 percent of the market comprised of over-the-counter products.
The FDA says patients often pair the cold medications with pure acetaminophen drugs, like Tylenol, exposing themselves to unsafe levels of the drug.
But the industry group that represents Johnson & Johnson, Advil-maker Wyeth and other companies defended the products Monday, saying they pose a relatively small risk to patients.
Only 10 percent of deaths linked to acetaminophen medications involved over-the-counter combination cold medications, according to the Consumer Healthcare Products Association.
The majority of deaths were caused by either single-ingredient drugs or prescription strength combination drugs like Endo Pharmaceutical's Percocet, which combines oxycodone and acetaminophen.
"We believe there is a clear health benefit of over-the-counter combination products containing acetaminophen," said Linda Suydam, the group's president.
Tylenol-maker Johnson & Johnson also pushed back against a proposal to lower the maximum daily dose of acetaminophen, which is currently 4 grams daily, or eight pills of a medication like Extra Strength Tylenol.
While taking more than 4 grams per day can cause liver injury, J&J argued that taking the exact dose is proven to treat osteoarthritis pain.
The FDA panel also will vote on a series of other proposals, including changes to the packaging and labeling of medications. Both ideas are designed to prevent patients from taking more than the recommended dose of the drug.

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Few things confound elected officials and their various appointees more than the topic of drugs.

One of these days.....(in my dream world)...policy makers will finally snap to the fact that Americans will always get whatever drug or combination of drugs they want, regardless of how many hoops the feds make them jump through.

Remove the "combination" drugs which contain acetaminophen and users will simply use the newly packaged and diluted product in combination with a couple acetaminophen pills sold in separate package.

Reduce the potency of average acetaminophen tablets and users will simply consume 2x as many....

"Duh" is the most overlooked word in most of these discussions.
 

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The U.S. Food and Drug Administration voted Tuesday to reduce maximum recommended doses of the pain-relieving drug acetaminophen, which is one of the most widely-used drug in the country as the active ingredient in Tylenol and a wide variety of other over-the-counter medicines.
In the same series of votes, the FDA also rejected a move to ban NyQuill and other medicines that mix acetaminophen with other drugs. The panel ecommended phasing out the prescription drugs Vicodin and Percocet.
"[Overdoses] of acetaminophen have been linked to 56,000 emergency room visits, 26,000 hospitalizations and 458 deaths during the 1990s" according to a study cited by the FDA, reported CNN. The government agency said acetaminophen is the leading cause of liver failure, even outpacing alcohol.
By a vote of 21-16, the panel recommended 650 milligrams become the new maximum over-the-counter dose of the drug, curbing the current maximum of 1,000 milligrams.
The vote could mean stronger overdose warnings will be applied to Robitussin Cough Cold & Flu, Tylenol, Theraflu, Vicks 44 and NyQuil, among other medicines that contain acetaminophen.
The FDA is not required to act on the panel's vote, which is considered a recommendation.
 

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MERGED the two one-post threads about Acetaminopen
 

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This is for real. I went to pain management today (back issues.) They said I either could reduce my amount of percocet (oxycodone and tylenol) or get just the plain oxycodone. I opted for the latter. They are revisiting all of their pain med scripts I guess. Like barman said though, if they are giving me the narcotic, nothing to stop me from adding the tylenol part on my own. I guess they just have to cover themselves.
 

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This is for real. I went to pain management today (back issues.) They said I either could reduce my amount of percocet (oxycodone and tylenol) or get just the plain oxycodone. I opted for the latter. They are revisiting all of their pain med scripts I guess. Like barman said though, if they are giving me the narcotic, nothing to stop me from adding the tylenol part on my own. I guess they just have to cover themselves.

IAG - sorry about the back injury... next time i wont blow your back out literally.
 

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My thread was not about acetaminophen. The other thread was not about vicoden and percocets possible banning. I think you should unmerge the threads.

MERGED the two one-post threads about Acetaminopen
 

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Nimue, your one-post "thread" is in Post #3 above and most certainly discusses acetaminophen. Your post, along with Presto's has already inspired several smart replies.
 

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Guys really NOT a big deal.....Instead of percocet...yoiu write for percoDAN

Its the same med except its has "asprin" instead of "tylenol" in fact it works better on pain mgt. IMO
 

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