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LADY LUCK
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Sure they were.

Let me get the story straight ... some tout found out about a secret system that supposedly made some anonymous guy rich, was smart and diligent enough to spend a YEAR figuring and out (but only because he's so smart and diligent), then sold the picks to all these people whose names no one knows and they got rich on them, and now you're lucky enough to be next up to buy them!

obviously you have no clue . May I suggest that you do your research a little better before you pop off and make a fool of yourself. please dont piss me off.

You stumbled onto something really special here !!! make the best of it and enjoy !!! dont be an ass...that will not get you anywhere....in this case ...you are very very wrong ...you have no clue how much time and work has gone into perfecting the 99 system ...you just have no clue.

I saw your other post in this thread .....no scam here baby .....all is documented....very clearly.
 

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are we talking about Morrison's marketing strategy is a SCAM or the 99 system??
ace u dont know about the morrison system nba 3 game chase on road team playing at least 3 in opposite conference...


fyi the 99 system is exactly what ace says it is 100% for sure and he and maybe 2 others know it
 

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I'd like to clarify the exact definition of a system, and why most systems are not valid vehicles for revenue generation, but can be used as tools for 'capper calculations.

Long-winded explanation:
A system is a model that only needs data to calculate the likelihood of a result of an event in the future. More specifically, it uses a strict mathematical equation that correlates existing data without using outside agents to figure out the result. When that result is figured out, if there are significant deviations from the betting line, then a percentage can be calculated to produce a valued bet. That is my definition.

Simple explanation: A bettor enters data into the model. The model spits out the valued bet. A bettor makes the bet according to best odds. No extra research is done to find out about potential extraneous circumstances.

MOST systems will not perform at a rate that will be consistent enough to win at a significant pace at -110 (100/110) aggregate. SOME systems MAY perform to win at a SMALL to MODERATE pace at -105 (100/105).

HAVING SAID THAT...

Systems have their benefit for handicapping purposes. What they do is provide a relatively stable baseline for handicappers to start their own calculations. In addition, the more variables that can be properly categorized, the better chance the system can be identified as being able to produce advantages. This is key.

CONCLUSION: As said before, most systems, without 'capper interpretation, will not make money over the long run. Systems that have more data MAY, but not necessarily MEAN, that systems can make money without 'capper interpretation, but in all cases, nothing significant can be made.

The magic threshold at -110 is 56% with no more than a 3.2 deviation; at -105, you may be able to drop it to 55% (actually, 54.7%) with the same deviation. While lower numbers can win, the deviation amounts would probably not make it a safe bet, even for long term.

DISCLAIMER: I am NOT a handicapper, nor do I know how to become one. That being said, I CAN crunch numbers and deduce calculations. A 'capper can interpret the numbers better than I can; in other words, a 'capper would be able to effectively manufacture the calculation (which I cannot do). So if there is a system out there that can produce a 56% rate for 10 years, I will proclaim it a winner...until the books take those numbers into account with their lines.

EXTRA: I wanted to add something regarding individuals who handicap: There are many 'cappers who intuitively use calculations that a system may produce. This is analogous to a whiz kid mathematician who can whip out the answer in his head to a complicated math problem that would take us a minute to do by hand on paper, or even a few seconds to enter it on a calculator....and then correlate THAT number with other factors. In essence, 'good cappers may have that ability to correlate data in that manner. Most people call it "intuition," which is not ESP, but is more inline with what I said. Such intuition can also be internalized over time with experience, or even study and repetition.
 

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you mentioned documented on your site 71-47 what site is that is it a sports service site?
 

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I've followed Ace for 3 or 4 years and what I've always liked about Ace is he has always been honest and shared all his picks with the rx. Now since he stumbled onto the "99" system he is going tout and sell the picks. Ace its your life and you can do whatever you want, but your going to lose most of your friends on the RX by going tout. Good luck to you.
 

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I've followed Ace for 3 or 4 years and what I've always liked about Ace is he has always been honest and shared all his picks with the rx. Now since he stumbled onto the "99" system he is going tout and sell the picks. Ace its your life and you can do whatever you want, but your going to lose most of your friends on the RX by going tout. Good luck to you.


you do know that I been working for docsports for the last 4 years and have been doing both....free for the forum.....its my way of giving back

fact only 20% of gambler come to forums...at doc's I offer my service to the other 80%....I feel its not a service but a partnership in profit....over the last 4 years I have made them more money than not!

there will be away to see for the lucky forum players...just wait....
 

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Ace-

I sent you a PM yesterday...you probably get tons of messages, so just letting you know. Thanks for all that you do for therx!
 

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i have lurked in ace,s forum for the past 3 years, and have always seen honest, heartfelt info from himthat has obviously resulted from his longtime expertise and hard work. i love to gamble, just not very good at pick'in the games, so i depend on people such as ace , and others who i feel know what the are talking about. ace has gone far and above providing info and backing it up with his sound reasoning from techniques he has developed over the years,and has been gracious enough to share with us. it upsets me to see people jump in and out and bash him, only to watch as he confidently proves them wrong. i have never seen any outlandish gurantees, simply morewinners than losers which is good from where i sit.
THANK-YOU ace for the info you have provided and please let me know how i can contact you; just in case you decide to "retire " from the forum
dreamer
 

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What ever ace does. He do it because he feels its the right thing to do. And im sure he will do the right thing, couse thats what he has doing for many years in this forum.. Ive followed him since he started here, and made a lot of money on picks i would never have found my self. And passed on a lot of games, where i felt certain, but ace thread tought me otherwise.

If the price is right i have paid for picks in the past. But i wont pay a ton of money, since im a small gambler.

One thing i would do is pay a ton of money for the 99 system, but i do understand why its kept "secret" Just hope i can get the tips for free next year. Otherwise i just has to keep an eye on the hilton contens, and find ace-ace there on fridays, and then hope the lines has not moved to much..

Thanks to ace and queens. :) :drink:
 

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Seriously ace,,,greenfield created this system?


why would I said that if its not true....do you want me to say that its came from me....I'm good and I did fine tune it...But I did not make the 99 system....but happy to have it@):)AA
 

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Hey..hey...my comment was not meant as a dis...

I had a friend's Dad who would talk about this football mathematician about 10 years ago or so and how when he got word on a play he would make Large money. but I some how recall his name as mark or mac or something to that effect. Yet I do remember him saying he was from the west coast probably Cali....just was wondering and a little bewildered if it might be the same guy.
I like you and your posts (and little lessons you give out).

Not to crazy about the little voice though lol
 

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Hey..hey...my comment was not meant as a dis...

I had a friend's Dad who would talk about this football mathematician about 10 years ago or so and how when he got word on a play he would make Large money. but I some how recall his name as mark or mac or something to that effect. Yet I do remember him saying he was from the west coast probably Cali....just was wondering and a little bewildered if it might be the same guy.
I like you and your posts (and little lessons you give out).

Not to crazy about the little voice though lol


could have been someone that got it and share it with your Dad's friend...his family was in Philadelphia... he the guy still round to talk to...
it would be great if you could set it up..it could tie thing together
 

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I tried tracking him down on face book. (He moved out to calgary). I'm gonna give it a shot cause this got me real curious now, and I think I know someone who still is in contact with him (the son)....
 

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