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They drew first blood
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This isnt about a bet but a question that happened in the ravens/titans game that pretty much cost the ravens the win.

Someone please explain this to me. the play should of been whistled dead the second there was a false start so how is it the roughing the passer counted?

(5:57) (Shotgun) 5-K.Collins pass incomplete deep right to 19-J.McCareins. PENALTY on BAL-55-T.Suggs, Roughing the Passer, 15 yards, enforced at TEN 20 - No Play. Penalty on TEN-71-M.Roos, False Start, superseded.
 

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There is no explanation. It's complete bullshit, the call was bullshit and if what you are saying is accurate, it just makes the whole thing that much more suspect. A false start should supercede the play itself. Another fucking taking it in the ass call like the San Diego/Denver game
 

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There is no explanation. It's complete bullshit, the call was bullshit and if what you are saying is accurate, it just makes the whole thing that much more suspect. A false start should supercede the play itself. Another fucking taking it in the ass call like the San Diego/Denver game
yes thank you. i mean i live here in baltimore so of course i want to know. and really that is the play that changed the game. if it didnt happen i bet the ravens would of won. but like you said anything after the false start should not count.

Did anyone watch the game? That could be wrong.
yes i did. they didnt blow the play dead but rather at the end of the play said there was a false start on the offense along with roughing the qb.
 

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It was a false start, but then a defender came in and absolutely leveled Kerry Collins, so they through a flag for a personal foul, which by rule, nullifies the false start.
 

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I didnt see the game however I believe this is the explanation.

the false start happened and the ball was snapped, the ref blew the whistle however the defensive player didnt slow up and hit Collins... the ref penalized the defensive for roughing the passer but should of probably called it unnecessary roughness. the ball should be moved up 15 yards and an automatic 1st down
 

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if teams were allowed ot hit the qb after the whistle blows without penalty, everyone would do it
 

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not sure.. maybe it was a dead ball foul roughin the passer? if the penalty was on a dead ball then it will count they will move the offens eback 5 and then up 15
 

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It was a false start, but then a defender came in and absolutely leveled Kerry Collins, so they through a flag for a personal foul, which by rule, nullifies the false start.
no it wasnt like that. it was a normal play. collins threw a incomplete and suggs tapped him on the head and they called roughing the qb. i just dont see how they called a false start after the play.
 

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A 15yd personal foul will supercede any minor 5yd penalty.

Penalties only "offset" when they are of equal value
 

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yes thank you. i mean i live here in baltimore so of course i want to know. and really that is the play that changed the game. if it didnt happen i bet the ravens would of won. but like you said anything after the false start should not count.


yes i did. they didnt blow the play dead but rather at the end of the play said there was a false start on the offense along with roughing the qb.

You watched the game? So how did it happen exactly? Was the play whistled dead? Did the defense 'level' Collins? When was that, well after the play or did the play stop and he kept coming?
 

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You watched the game? So how did it happen exactly? Was the play whistled dead? Did the defense 'level' Collins? When was that, well after the play or did the play stop and he kept coming?
no the play happened normal. collins droped back threw a incomplete and suggs hand sort of hit his helmet. was a bad call to begin with. then after the play the ref said there was a 15 yard on roughing the qb and a 5 yard false start but the 15 yard would only count. BUT my point it just like when there is a tipped ball there cant be pass interference so since there was a false start on the play then anything after that shouldnt count.
 

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Ok so the play at least as I heard it the first time, was that the call itself was ticky tack. You're trying to determine whether or not the call should have even happened due to the false start killing the play before it even began and there I agree with you. All parts of this play sound like bullshit. Play shuld have been whistled dead. Call itself was suspect that converted a failed 3 and 10.

Fuck. Sometimes it's better to not know the details. Sucks even worse
 

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I didn't see the play or how bad it was but a 15 yard personal foul should be counted even if the play is blown dead. If it's not then everytime a play is blown dead or a runner goes out of bounds it would be hit anything that moves with no consequences.

Again, I didn't see the play, but a personal foul will always be called/tacked on.
 

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watched the game and it was a terrible call............defensive player went to knock down the pass and barely hit Collins in between his helmet and shoulder pads........idiot rules it a personal foul.........the announcers even said that it was a bad call............
 

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I didn't see the play or how bad it was but a 15 yard personal foul should be counted even if the play is blown dead. If it's not then everytime a play is blown dead or a runner goes out of bounds it would be hit anything that moves with no consequences.

Again, I didn't see the play, but a personal foul will always be called/tacked on.


the play was not blown dead.........
 

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