still looking for that 5-0 day in the hilton contest!!!!
3-2 doctorlock now 22.5.........100% owner
3-2 PURPLE SAGE now 28.o.... 20% part owner
and
4-1 with the QOH now 26.0......50% part owner
got 3 hours to look at the number and start week 10
so
last play of this week
$600.00 Take #430 Pittsburgh (-3) over Baltimore (8:30 p.m., Sunday, Nov. 6)
This Play is from my 411 System. My system likes the Steelers this week and so do I. Since Baltimore destroyed the Steelers in the opener these two teams have slowly been moving in opposite directions. Baltimore played terribly against weak teams Jacksonville and Arizona in the last two weeks and they were lucky to get away with one win from those two games. Pittsburgh beat up New England at home last week and right now I think that the Steelers are hot and they are focused. They obviously will want revenge for getting embarrassed in Week 1 on the road and they have been the better team in this series for the last five or six years, going 5-2-1 ATS in the last eight meetings. Pittsburgh is 7-2 ATS in its last nine games laying points and is 6-1 ATS at home. Baltimore is just 1-4 ATS when they are catching a field goal or less.
I have bought Ace's picks and I only play the so called "investment" plays and not the lower level plays... I don't know how you can be happy losing with his plays. When I pay someone for a service I expect good service, in this case that means winning picks not all these losing picks from his vaunted system...
I am bottom line oriented in work and life so getting losing picks is not acceptable. Really don't care what the system has done the last 5 or 10 years because I was not around playing them. I care about this year.
If your not happy with his NFL plays be happy you did not get his college plays, they are horrible. Just money burners....
Not trying to be a pain, just being honest with what is going on this year... I like Ace and guess he is just having a really bad year with his system. I understand this but that does not mean I have to be happy about it and not say anything...
If your selling picks you should expect it if your losing people money
I am bottom line oriented in work and life so getting losing picks is not acceptable. Really don't care what the system has done the last 5 or 10 years because I was not around playing them. I care about this year.
If your not happy with his NFL plays be happy you did not get his college plays, they are horrible. Just money burners....
Not trying to be a pain, just being honest with what is going on this year... I like Ace and guess he is just having a really bad year with his system. I understand this but that does not mean I have to be happy about it and not say anything...
If your selling picks you should expect it if your losing people money
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People who are recognized as winning players are not given 105 juice - period. I love how the only people who are against me have less than 250 posts - all obvious shills and ghosts. As far as having 10 outs with -105...well that's just ridiculous. I am the one of the only ones here calling this guy out for his pathetic performance - and I actually paid. If you all want to swing from his jock be my guess but this season is sunk. Only a "full retard" would deny that.
Manny times it's +100 or better...I just post all but a few at -105.... Guess if you got lots of acct you can shop around.....the fact is the 411 system is not working in the short run...but it's still over 60% that last 4 years
Can't tell you why...itiswhatitis ....hang in there...still have a whole season ahead of us
Ace, all well and good that the system is over 60% the last 4 years but that does nothing for the people who are playing this years picks...
What does the last 4 years do for me this year when I end up down money? I care about what it's doing this year and it's horrible and losing me money... The past 4 years record is not winning me any money this year...
So if I end up losing will you tell us that it's still hitting 60% over 4 years but the people who bought this year's plays are S.O.L. and your sorry that the system tanked this year....
What does the last 4 years do for me this year when I end up down money? I care about what it's doing this year and it's horrible and losing me money... The past 4 years record is not winning me any money this year...
So if I end up losing will you tell us that it's still hitting 60% over 4 years but the people who bought this year's plays are S.O.L. and your sorry that the system tanked this year....
You know I'm doing everything I can do on my side.......my money going down also.... But the ones that been with me knows one thing...I work hard to make money. This week 4 games fix the 411 system...only the best one will be the play.and this will take me a little time...because I'm running cold..it's not over until the superbowl
ACE - I have a few questions that I would like for you to do your best to answer...
1) You have claimed that the 411 system, or some form of your system, is 60% over the last four years. How many plays does this include? I am going to assume it is probably around 100 or so. If you took a coin and flipped it 100 times...what is the probability of you getting heads or tails 60 out of 100? I think the answer would surprise you...in short is not it not possible for this system to have merely ran "hot" for a period and now it is "cooling" off and regressing back to the mean?
2) The lines that you post are not practical for 95% of your followers to follow. If you do indeed play the games on Monday or Tuesday, then you should post EVERYTHING. Not just the 411 plays are x, x, and x. What good does it do for us to not have the dollar amounts? You also claim -105 juice or better on everything. Once again this is not practical at all for 95% of your followers. If you are really getting the reduced juice why not post where you play the games? I would love to see some of your tickets...but I know you will claim to bet with local. No local in his right mind would give a winning player -105 or better.
3) You claim to have won money 8 out of 11 seasons. If you went back and calculated in -110 juice on all of your losses and used the number the game went off at I bet you wouldn't be any higher than 50%. Most of your seasons show a profit of several thousand dollars - you claim to be a dime bettor so this is the equivalent of a guy betting $100 a game winning $200 on the year. Not exactly setting the world on fire - and when you factor in what practically everyone plays at in terms of juice and numbers we actually lose money.
I do think you are trying - but you are delusional. You may have beaten the NFL for a little while but this is not the same game. The rule changes in terms of kickoffs, personal fouls, pass interference, and illegal contact have ruined the game. There is also much more parity in the league...anyone can beat anyone at any time. I don't think you are a stupid man...but I cannot fathom for the life of me why you would play anything you release. It is GOOD for business to tell your clients that you play...but this makes NO business sense. I completely understand the Hilton - you are taking a free shot with advertising...if you make the money it will be returned 3x over from new subscribers. If you will just admit it is impossible to beat this game with -110 juice and playing closing numbers I will leave it alone, but I don't think you can.
1) You have claimed that the 411 system, or some form of your system, is 60% over the last four years. How many plays does this include? I am going to assume it is probably around 100 or so. If you took a coin and flipped it 100 times...what is the probability of you getting heads or tails 60 out of 100? I think the answer would surprise you...in short is not it not possible for this system to have merely ran "hot" for a period and now it is "cooling" off and regressing back to the mean?
2) The lines that you post are not practical for 95% of your followers to follow. If you do indeed play the games on Monday or Tuesday, then you should post EVERYTHING. Not just the 411 plays are x, x, and x. What good does it do for us to not have the dollar amounts? You also claim -105 juice or better on everything. Once again this is not practical at all for 95% of your followers. If you are really getting the reduced juice why not post where you play the games? I would love to see some of your tickets...but I know you will claim to bet with local. No local in his right mind would give a winning player -105 or better.
3) You claim to have won money 8 out of 11 seasons. If you went back and calculated in -110 juice on all of your losses and used the number the game went off at I bet you wouldn't be any higher than 50%. Most of your seasons show a profit of several thousand dollars - you claim to be a dime bettor so this is the equivalent of a guy betting $100 a game winning $200 on the year. Not exactly setting the world on fire - and when you factor in what practically everyone plays at in terms of juice and numbers we actually lose money.
I do think you are trying - but you are delusional. You may have beaten the NFL for a little while but this is not the same game. The rule changes in terms of kickoffs, personal fouls, pass interference, and illegal contact have ruined the game. There is also much more parity in the league...anyone can beat anyone at any time. I don't think you are a stupid man...but I cannot fathom for the life of me why you would play anything you release. It is GOOD for business to tell your clients that you play...but this makes NO business sense. I completely understand the Hilton - you are taking a free shot with advertising...if you make the money it will be returned 3x over from new subscribers. If you will just admit it is impossible to beat this game with -110 juice and playing closing numbers I will leave it alone, but I don't think you can.
dont know what you are trying to get at...I alway tell it like it is...
and I see you at another forum cutting me down...but I will try to answer your ???
1...4 year record with the system as of today 75 45-3 62.5%
2....only one time in two year my line that I got won and the one I posted lost...it can happen
at docsport at 6pm on the day it comes out...every capper is check to see if there is a line out there
trust me I can get away with anything
3...its not 8 out of 11 years its 14 out of 17 years that I have won....ANY SHARP BETTOR WOULD NOT
PAY -110!!!....BUT if I did I would still have won.
HERE IS MY WHOLE RECORD ALL POSTED ON THE RX MINUS THIS YEARS THAT WAS POSTED ON THE OTHER FORUM
TWO WAYS I BET...ACTION UNDER $800 AND INVESTMENT $2000 -$5000
...............ACTION...................INVESTMENT............TOTAL
2004-05 ...36-34 +$400......... 25-16 +$28,400..........+$28,800.00
2005-06...63-51 +$14,035......36-18 +$44,181...........+$58,216.00
2006-07...62-71 -$8,942........19-22 -$11,390...........-$20,332.00
2007-08...37-37 -$2389..........26-26 +$5,857...........+$4,471.00
2008-09..45-42 +$1,117.........22-18 +$6,182............+$7,299.00
2009-10 ..49-37 +$6190......... 19-13 +$12,135..........+$18,325.00
THIS DOES NOT COUNT ANY PLAYOFF GAME THIS THIS YEAR
TOTAL ACTION .......292-272 +$21,742.00
TOTAL INVESTMENT.147-113 +$85,365.00 THE ONES THAT COUNT 56.5%
TOTAL...................... 439-385 +$107,107.00 53%
ACE...YOU HAVE ONLY DONE 53% FOR THE LAST 6 YEAR there that voice taking to me again.....
so
the lesson for a lifetime ......
A capper hit 70% this year...he the best and beat the other guy...he only did 56%
The measure of success of a sports handicapper is not his percentage of winning bets, but the Relating amount of profit he made over any given period of time.
remember this and keep good records
Ace-Ace
hope I answer your ???
best to you
Ace
