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You should stay true to your way of betting. Evidently it has gotten you good results so far. But don't quote me NFL at $ amounts & your paying customers from your tout service you give them units.

Now you tell me for you NFL 1 unit = $1,000, but in a quote earlier it was about your dollar amount

SF-3 +100...................................$700.00
PHI+3 -105..................................$2500.00
BAL -13 +101..............................$400.00
TB-2.5 -110..................................$600.00
Sea-5.5 .....................................$2500.00
Sea under 41..............................$2000.00


That is not in correlation to the units posted on your Tout Service at Doc Sports and these amounts. Your PAYING CUSTOMERS play $$ amounts in units which you post.

I need not explain anything else, people on here have read all of the information. They can see the NET RESULTS for themselves.

But since you know say UNITS IN NFL. I will accurately quote units for you.

YOUR NFL PLAYS ON YOUR TOUT SERVICE(all assuming -10-cent juice)

Posted 9/16.........................-5.20 units
Posted 9/23........................+6.00 units
Posted 9/30.........................-6.70 units
Posted 10/7.........................-2.65 units
Posted 10/14.......................-1.90 units
Posted 10/21.......................-13.20 units with Sea & Sea un still to be graded

Those are the results your paying customers have seen, regardless of what Dollar amounts or Units now, (guess which everone suits you).

And yes I am a class person. I don't bash anyone in here. But I do post the truth, especially, when results are being mis-stated!!!





If this is right, and you are posting a "WINNING RECORD FOR NFL" then yes you are exactly a scandicapper.

again thank you for not working with me and waiting for my payout! appreciate it greatly.
 

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ace is the man! he knows shit how cud u go 2-5 and up $? Money management baby!:toast:
 

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If this is right, and you are posting a "WINNING RECORD FOR NFL" then yes you are exactly a scandicapper.

again thank you for not working with me and waiting for my payout! appreciate it greatly.

what out you knowing all the facts...you are no more than a follower...why would you call me that...we have talk many times..
 

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4-Unit Play. Take #422 Seattle (-5.5) over Arizona (4 p.m., Sunday, Oct. 24)
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3-Unit Play. Take 'Under' 41.0 Arizona at Seattle (4 p.m., Sunday, Oct. 24)
The play on Seattle (-5.5) is from the 99 System.

I love the Seahawks in this one! They are one of the best home teams in the NFL and Qwest Field gives them one of the biggest home field edges in the league. They already blew out San Fran at home and beat San Diego in Qwest. Arizona is going to be bringing an undrafted rookie quarterback into this game and this is just not the stadium that you want a rookie making his first road start in. Not only is Seattle one of the best home teams but Arizona is one of the worst teams on the road in the NFL. Arizona is just 1-5 ATS away from home this year and they have been blown out in both away games they have played this year. That same San Diego team that Seattle beat at home won by nearly five touchdowns against Arizona when the Cards were on the road. The 'under' is 5-2-1 in Seattle's last eight divisional games and is 4-0 in Arizona's last four divisional games. The home team is 6-2 ATS in the last eight meetings. I like the Seahawks to play the same strong defense we saw last week in Chicago and they will score an easy 24-13 win in this game.

5-Unit Play. Take #409 Philadelphia (+3) over Tennessee (1 p.m., Sunday, Oct. 24)
This is from the 99 System and it is my NFL Game of the Week.

I am a big fan of the Eagles and coach Andy Reid. He has been one of the most consistent coaches in the NFL over the last decade and I have found him to be a great coach to follow with a ?big play?. The Eagles have won three in a row on the road this year and Kevin Kolb is one of the hottest quarterbacks in the NFL. Philadelphia is 12-4 ATS as a road underdog and I think that this is a good spot. Tennessee had a short week after a road game on Monday Night Football. And as I post this both of the Titans quarterbacks are banged up and missing practice. There is a chance that neither Vince Young nor Kerry Collins will be under center, and if either one of them is they won't be 100 percent. The Titans are just 2-10 ATS against a team with a winning record and they are just 2-5 ATS as a favorite. This isn't their best role. I think that the wrong team is favored in this one and I think that the Eagles stop the Titans from going 3-0 against the NFC East. Tennessee is 0-7 ATS on Sunday after a MNF game.

3-Unit Play. Take #417 San Francisco (-3) over Carolina (1 p.m., Sunday, Oct. 24)
It doesn't matter who is quarterbacking in Carolina - they are one of the worst teams in football. San Francisco is a team that is better than its record suggests and I think that they are better on both sides of the ball here. San Fran was able to fight for a strong rivalry win over Oakland last week and now that they got that first win on the season I feel like a lot of the pressure that was building up has gone off. Carolina is one of the youngest teams in the league. I think that they are more likely to come out flat after a bye week as a result. San Fran holds them off and wins this one by 13. The favorite is 5-2 ATS in this series and the Niners are 7-1-3 ATS after failing to cover a spread. Carolina is just 1-4 ATS in their last five games.

2-Unit Play. Take #416 Baltimore (-13) over Buffalo (1 p.m., Sunday, Oct. 24)
The Ravens have played one of the toughest schedules in football so far and right now they are facing one of the worst teams in football. Buffalo simply can't compete with a team in the class of the Ravens. The Bills were blown out at home by the Jaguars and Jets and they were blown out on the road at Green Bay. Even with an extra week to prepare that doesn't change the fact that these are just two different classes of teams. Baltimore is 43-18-1 ATS as a home favorite and they are 13-6 ATS at home. That includes some strong covers as a double-digit favorite. There is just too much in favor of the home team here.

3-Unit Play. Take #420 Tampa Bay (-2.5) over St. Louis (1 p.m., Sunday, Oct. 24)
The Bucs lost last week to New Orleans. But it might have been a good thing for this young team. They are still learning what it takes to compete at the top level and I still think that they have some decent talent. St. Louis is in a prime letdown spot after a big win over San Diego at home. This is the same Rams team that lost 44-6 on the road to the lowly Lions just two weeks ago. They are nowhere near the same team when they play outside of their home in St. Louis. The home team is 4-1 ATS in the last five meetings and the Bucs are 5-0-1 ATS in the last six meetings. St. Louis is just 3-8 ATS on grass.

Allen Eastman



There are your plays from Doc Sports, and you try & fool these people in here, showing a $115 profit for today. Everyone in here can see the results. It speaks for itself, and shows that the TRUTH is not being shown ACCURATELY!!!
SF-3 +100...................................$700.00----lost
PHI+3 -105..................................$2625.00...lost
BAL -13 +101..............................$400.00....lost
TB-2.5 -110..................................$660.00....lost
Sea-5.5 .....................................$2500.00...winner
Sea under 41..............................$2000.00...winner

2-4 on the day +$115 on the week

on to week 8


In COLLEGE FOOTBALL YESTERDAY, you were +10.60 UNITS. That is how the Whole Truth is suppose to be STATED!!!
 

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not trying to fool anyone
10% of the gambler come to forum...if you see what I bet I'm up +115 today
90% of the bettor dont have time to come to forums...this week at docsports if you saw my week in football that shows both CFB and NFL and we are talking units there
I'm down in the NFL -6 units $730 and up in CFB up +11 units +$1060

not try to hide from that

fact is who would you trust...someone that bets there only plays or one that treats it like a business and just posted plays.(90% of the pros dont bet there only games)

not happy with the way week come out on both side...docsports or my money plays

the ? to you ...I cant change the way it is....if after taking in everything you hear from me... which way would you like to see my plays

by the rules...or what I bet in money?

Ace
 

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SF-3 +100...................................$700.00
PHI+3 -105..................................$2500.00
BAL -13 +101..............................$400.00
TB-2.5 -110..................................$600.00


These were posted on here at 1:04pm, the games start at 1:00pm.

Sea-5.5 .....................................$2500.00
Sea under 41..............................$2000.00

Theses were posted on here at 4:06pm, the game started at 4:05pm

If the dollar amounts are posted after the games start, how are they suppose to know what you played on them.
The units are posted on Thursdays at Doc Sports. Can you explain to me, how they are suppose to know the dollar amounts you play and bet them accordingly when the games have already started, when you post your dollar amount?

not trying to fool anyone
10% of the gambler come to forum...if you see what I bet I'm up +115 today
90% of the bettor dont have time to come to forums...this week at docsports if you saw my week in football that shows both CFB and NFL and we are talking units there
I'm down in the NFL -6 units $730 and up in CFB up +11 units +$1060

not try to hide from that

fact is who would you trust...someone that bets there only plays or one that treats it like a business and just posted plays.(90% of the pros dont bet there only games)

not happy with the way week come out on both side...docsports or my money plays

the ? to you ...I cant change the way it is....if after taking in everything you hear from me... which way would you like to see my plays

by the rules...or what I bet in money?

Ace
 

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show me away to go by the rules of doc' 1-8 units vs my way action under $800 plays or .8 of a unit...Investment $2000-$4000 2-4 units....and we can talk
at doc I can only do a game of the week 5 unit...6-7 unit game of the Month (once a month) a one 8 unit play once a season.
most of my Investment plays at $2000-$3000

just dont see away...
 

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If the dollar amounts are posted after the games start, how are they suppose to know what you played on them.
The units are posted on Thursdays at Doc Sports. Can you explain to me, how they are suppose to know the dollar amounts you play and bet them accordingly when the games have already started, when you post your dollar amount?

I can help you there...docsports dont want me to posts my plays on forums....so I use a thread called" win the money or lose the bankroll " thread....so I will posted a CFB game or a MLB play 2 times a week....I have team up with this forum to show my picks in Promos...you do the Promo you see my picks for free....they go out every thrusday at the same time ....the goes out on Thrusday!!!
I also have a private E-mail list that goes out on Thrusday also...they see the money amount also.... Docsports know I do this.....its just under the Ace-Ace name not Allen Eastman....same plays as you see at docsports....read posted #65 from
mpacman he is one on my list.....if he see this he could tell you also.
 

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Ace, I don't know what to tell you. But do you think its fair to your paying customers on Doc Sports that lose -6.20 units today, yet with those same plays on here, you show a $115 profit. I don't know the answer or what you need to do about here & Doc Sports. But it isn't right to show your plays winning, but those same plays according to units you told them to play lose -6.20 units.(They are PAYING for your service, but doesn't appear they are getting the best info about the games, $$ amount-wise).

Do you think posting a win on here & them losing is accurate indication of the plays?

show me away to go by the rules of doc' 1-8 units vs my way action under $800 plays or .8 of a unit...Investment $2000-$4000 2-4 units....and we can talk
at doc I can only do a game of the week 5 unit...6-7 unit game of the Month (once a month) a one 8 unit play once a season.
most of my Investment plays at $2000-$3000

just dont see away...
 

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Ace, I don't know what to tell you. But do you think its fair to your paying customers on Doc Sports that lose -6.20 units today, yet with those same plays on here, you show a $115 profit. I don't know the answer or what you need to do about here & Doc Sports. But it isn't right to show your plays winning, but those same plays according to units you told them to play lose -6.20 units.(They are PAYING for your service, but doesn't appear they are getting the best info about the games, $$ amount-wise).

Do you think posting a win on here & them losing is accurate indication of the plays?


all my years I seen diff/players do diff thing with my plays....the smart ones with what I give them here on the forum could do better than me....the tools are in the hand that gets the picks...some flat bet each one...some just bet the 99 system plays.....here on the forum I tell everyone to only bet my Investment plays....In the long run I help both worlds....most dont cross over like you did....in the short run I will loses...In the long run I will show you how to win here on this forum....and I have won in the NFL 13 out of 16 years... this week it was better for Forum players...next week it could be better at docsports.it will balance in the end
 

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How can you say that? Rams winning 17-12 and Ravens winning 34-24. You count your money before the game is over? Now you sound like a tout.
SF-3 +100...................................$700.00----lost
PHI+3 -105..................................$2625.00...lost
BAL -13 +101..............................$400.00....lost
TB-2.5 -110..................................$660.00....lost
Sea-5.5 .....................................$2500.00
Sea under 41..............................$2000.00


0-4 on the day -$4385.00
20 min's before the hour it look like a 4-0 day...all I can say is s##t...
 

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all my years I seen diff/players do diff thing with my plays....the smart ones with what I give them here on the forum could do better than me....the tools are in the hand that gets the picks...some flat bet each one...some just bet the 99 system plays.....here on the forum I tell everyone to only bet my Investment plays....In the long run I help both worlds....most dont cross over like you did....in the short run I will loses...In the long run I will show you how to win here on this forum....and I have won in the NFL 13 out of 16 years... this week it was better for Forum players...next week it could be better at docsports.it will balance in the end
I think his main point is...people are paying hundreds of dollars for the your name and capping abilities. From a pride standpoint, why wouldnt you give your best efforts to them? Seems like you kinda just give everyone the run around, everyone has a bad year yes, but if you are confident in your abilities as a capper then why not offer some sort of refund for this year if they purchase a package from you for next year? shouldn't be too hard to cook something up.

I understand that you want to help the people who were loyal to you over here, but why not get those who actually pay for your picks at docsports on an email list and email them the $ amounts you play for. If Docsports knows you post plays here, then that shouldnt be a big deal right?
 
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Yo

I have been following ace for a long time, and he usually wins me money. This year I don't know what's up. First year I paid for his plays and am losing my a55! And what's makes it worse is I'm paying but it looks like he posts the plays for free still. I don't understand. I also have friends mad at me cause they paid or your plays because I told them how good your system is, but your losing them money a well. Sure, it's my choice to bet and follow you. You know what I mean, just dint understand why your picks are so bad this year. I keep chasing thinking your gonna have a good week but it keeps getting worse. No disrepect ace, just venting. Good luck next week.
 

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Why on earth, every week there is 99 system plays. To me, it is just away to market like other touts(GOM,GOW,GOY) type.
 

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Why on earth, every week there is 99 system plays. To me, it is just away to market like other touts(GOM,GOW,GOY) type.

my be true in some cases...but the system was 51-16-1 the last two year and this is the 3rd year....year for 2.5 year now 61-23-3...so some one to see it...and those plays can be seen free 5 min's before the game starts or by Promo by the RX on Thursday.
 

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