First off I said everything I knew yesterday. I will admit it was what I was told from Shrink, make no mistake on that. However what I do know is these guys are not honoring wagers they took. That's plenty for me and all I need to hear. Please do not let anything else ever confuse that issue if you are a player who is new to off-shore. If you are experienced and want to risk playing here that is your business but be aware what is going on.
I have dealt with many books and the reputable one's do not want what is not theirs. They won't even take it! For this place to be trying to "justify" taking these mens money is ridiculous. Recently a book took 30k or so on a software screw up but they did not even want to touch the money. "The guy could have lost the bet, why would we keep it? If we can't find the guy through these aliases we will send it to the sites for some contests". Reputable books are very adamant about it, if it ain't ours we don't touch it. We didn't earn it. You take a bet you pay a bet if they beat you. Unless there are extreme circumstances that is very easy to follow. Guys bearding in or trying to gake advantage of a bonus YOU offerred them is WRONG, however that does not give you a license to steal. Bettors have been bearding in at shops for years, pay them and show them the door - you don't not honor the winning bets. When a book looks to steal they either don't know the business, don't give a shit, or have a light bankroll. Sometimes all three.
The last thing is, not one book will come and speak up for this behaviour because they know it is wrong. I spoke with a couple yesterday and they don't want to get involved but they all said the same thing, if EWinner does not pay they are a stiff book. End of story. Shrink has said it. Krackman has said it. Samurai has said it. Every book I have spoken with has said it. Anyone who gambles that has a clue knows it even if they haven't said it aloud.
I say that to say this, please do not listen to a rabblerouser or two looking to make a name for themselves. Don't get caught up in these big productions by a few posters trying to impress others by bashing the Shrink and the RX. Especially when your money is at stake. If the Rx still had EWinner up there these same few guys would be demanding they be taken down. Look behind all the smoke and mirrrors and think for yourself. All these posts about timelines, exact details, what moment exactly did the money got stolen, etc.... is all worthless, don't be taken in by it. It's designed to take your mind off the real issue and blame the RX. This is a stiff book if they don't pay and no amount of posts in the world will change that.
This book has broken the most standard rule there is for a book, pay when you get beat. There's a lot of shit get kicked around and issues muddied but this one is simple boys, EWinner is a stiff book if they do not pay. Coming in here like a big shot and calling out people who have been in this industry longer than they've known how to write is nothing to brag about. All the while refusing to pick up the phone and explain your side of it. Is it because even they know there is no way to steal what is not yours. Hard to justify that I would guess. Shame on you too Frank. If you want your money ask for it. To try and rubberstamp this book stealing money is wrong. Completely wrong. If they don't pay and anyone here plays there you deserve what you get. And trust me I know the lines are weak, still not worth it. Shops like these make it hard for the reputable ones. Sorry for the rant but this is pathetic. Shrink does the right thing and is then called out here while FatFrank tries to impress the forum.....
I have dealt with many books and the reputable one's do not want what is not theirs. They won't even take it! For this place to be trying to "justify" taking these mens money is ridiculous. Recently a book took 30k or so on a software screw up but they did not even want to touch the money. "The guy could have lost the bet, why would we keep it? If we can't find the guy through these aliases we will send it to the sites for some contests". Reputable books are very adamant about it, if it ain't ours we don't touch it. We didn't earn it. You take a bet you pay a bet if they beat you. Unless there are extreme circumstances that is very easy to follow. Guys bearding in or trying to gake advantage of a bonus YOU offerred them is WRONG, however that does not give you a license to steal. Bettors have been bearding in at shops for years, pay them and show them the door - you don't not honor the winning bets. When a book looks to steal they either don't know the business, don't give a shit, or have a light bankroll. Sometimes all three.
The last thing is, not one book will come and speak up for this behaviour because they know it is wrong. I spoke with a couple yesterday and they don't want to get involved but they all said the same thing, if EWinner does not pay they are a stiff book. End of story. Shrink has said it. Krackman has said it. Samurai has said it. Every book I have spoken with has said it. Anyone who gambles that has a clue knows it even if they haven't said it aloud.
I say that to say this, please do not listen to a rabblerouser or two looking to make a name for themselves. Don't get caught up in these big productions by a few posters trying to impress others by bashing the Shrink and the RX. Especially when your money is at stake. If the Rx still had EWinner up there these same few guys would be demanding they be taken down. Look behind all the smoke and mirrrors and think for yourself. All these posts about timelines, exact details, what moment exactly did the money got stolen, etc.... is all worthless, don't be taken in by it. It's designed to take your mind off the real issue and blame the RX. This is a stiff book if they don't pay and no amount of posts in the world will change that.
This book has broken the most standard rule there is for a book, pay when you get beat. There's a lot of shit get kicked around and issues muddied but this one is simple boys, EWinner is a stiff book if they do not pay. Coming in here like a big shot and calling out people who have been in this industry longer than they've known how to write is nothing to brag about. All the while refusing to pick up the phone and explain your side of it. Is it because even they know there is no way to steal what is not yours. Hard to justify that I would guess. Shame on you too Frank. If you want your money ask for it. To try and rubberstamp this book stealing money is wrong. Completely wrong. If they don't pay and anyone here plays there you deserve what you get. And trust me I know the lines are weak, still not worth it. Shops like these make it hard for the reputable ones. Sorry for the rant but this is pathetic. Shrink does the right thing and is then called out here while FatFrank tries to impress the forum.....
