Everyone knows the Giants can win and Books can still make money right?

[Maris9]

Props bets have become approximately 50ish % of the total handle on the Superbowl nowadays, leaving the Side and Total the other 50%. Then break that second segment down, and you have the actual side of the game accounting for a much smaller portion of the total money books are taking action on in a Superbowl than most people think.


Again....I'm not picking a side here with this statement, so please don't come in a saying I'm a homer this, a homer that. I could care less who wins at this point. Like many people betting on this game, I have way way more in prop bets than I do/will have in the actual side of the game.


Just there's a lot of talk going around on here that it's super obvious who's going to win based SOLELY upon what the betting percentage ends up being on the side of this game. Either team can win, and Books/Vegas can still do just fine.

Just throwing it out there. Attack away.

 

[SureGuy]

you are wrong.

futures.

 

[TheChathamPontiff]

Boy you won't quit. Provide real evidence that props account for half of all Super Bowl action. You have been hung up for what seems like two weeks trying to prove to yourself that the side in this game isn't heavily tilted towards NY. Did you bet the Giants and now regret it?? What the fuck is your angle here?

 

[Maris9]

Boy you won't quit. Provide real evidence that props account for half of all Super Bowl action. You have been hung up for what seems like two weeks trying to prove to yourself that the side in this game isn't heavily tilted towards NY. Did you bet the Giants and now regret it?? What the fuck is your angle here?

Are we going to have to do an intervention on you for your reading comprehension? I must have told you 15 times now that I nabbed a position at the +3.5 right after the Conference games, knowing it was as many points as anyone would be getting in this game. Thus, leaving me open to doing any number of things. Stay with the +3.5, come back over the top with the -2.5 , try to middle the 3, or even take NE on the ML and have a 3 pt middle.
I also just explained in this VERY THREAD that I have a ton more money on Prop bets than I will ever have on the side.

After all that, how can you ask me that question? Get it together dude.


Also it's very common knowledge that Prop bets are a huuuuge part of the money bet on Superbowls nowadays. Don't believe me, go do a little research on it. Shouldn't take long.

 

[Maris9]

you are wrong.

futures.

Yes....I understand there are people out there with decent futures tickets on the Giants.

But the basic premise is, people are using the % on one side or another in this game as their sole reason for picking the winner.
My point is that in Superbowls, there is a huge amount of the total take riding on Prop bets (and the over/under), and not just the side of the game. People are saying there's no way Vegas loses money, and therefore if there is a higher % on the Giant's you MUST TAKE the Patriots.
It's just flawed thinking.


Again (for the slow), I'm not trying to say the Giants are the right side in this game.
Just that the way people are going about the process is a bit flawed in theory.

 

[TheChathamPontiff]

Where is the evidence that 50% of total Super Bowl action is on prop bets? Or is that just more of your bullshit? You still haven't addressed why youre obsessed with trying to prove that the money isnt going to NY. No one cares what or how you bet. I hope you lose your shirt and then some tomorrow.

Roger Maris was a fucking asshole.

 

[TheChathamPontiff]

You are creating this argument that people are betting solely against where the money is going. Why? I'm sure there are people who bet against the public and use that as their primary reason, but who gives a shit? Who here is doing this?

 

[Maris9]

Where is the evidence that 50% of total Super Bowl action is on prop bets? Or is that just more of your bullshit? You still haven't addressed why youre obsessed with trying to prove that the money isnt going to NY. No one cares what or how you bet. I hope you lose your shirt and then some tomorrow.

Roger Maris was a fucking asshole.

Haha, you're so far off it's not even funny. Roger Maris was a quite and reserved man.....and my Rx handle has nothing to do with Roger Maris.


And example number 427 of your lack of reading comprehension, I've stated clearly and frequently that I know there is a higher % on NY than on NE....it's just not 97% to 3% like you DBags are running around screaming.

Seriously bro, go read around at the total take Books/Vegas are getting in recent years on Superbowls. Prop bets are easily 40-50% of the take nowadays. I've read about it in a ton of places, I've heard it from Bookmakers on several podcasts, it just is.
Again, don't believe me, go do a little research....come on back.

 

[Maris9]

Since apparently your Google search doesn't work:


(Can't post a link because you're not allowed to here, but here is what a quick search brought up)
Proposition Bets:

Proposition Bets, or Props as they are more commonly known, are a very fun way for casual bettors to get some cheap action on the Super Bowl. It never ceases to amaze me how many proposition bets the Vegas sportsbooks can come up with. Rumor has it that they work 72 hours straight after the Super Bowl teams have been determined just coming up with all of the different Super Bowl wagers and corresponding lines. Talk out work!

It is estimated that up to 50% of all the money bet on the Super Bowl - we're talking $80 million plus legally wagered in the U.S. alone - will be bet on proposition bets. Why is this? Proposition bets give fans a chance to get action on the game for different factors that don't affect the outcome of the game. They are fun bets that don't require special angles, insight, or acumen. What's not to like?

If there is a downside to props it is that they epitomize gambling. That's not necessarily a bad thing. This is, after all, the Super Bowl we're talking about. Believe it or not, there are many proposition bets that can actually give bettors a better chance to win that the more traditional "straight" bets. The more betting options that the lines makers must address - last year there more than 400 props available - the more prone they are to error.




Now then.....shhhhh, shhhhhh, it's ok.

I really am just trying to provide information. Last time, I don't care in the slightest who wins this game.
Sh*t I haven't even decided who I'll be rooting for bet-wise. Don't think we can say the same for you....

 

[Maris9]

Another one:

---------------------------------

More than $80 million is expected to be bet on the Super Bowl in Nevada. It's not just about picking a winner. Proposition bets have become a tradition in Las Vegas.
Part of the appeal is the fact that you don't need to be a football fan to get in on the action.
You can bet on everything from the coin flip to tie-ins with basketball, hockey, golf and soccer.
One look at the LVH SuperBook and you're bound to get dizzy.
"It's the ultimate candy shop," said bettor Alexander Tran. "You've got so many prop bets. When you look at it, it's like, wow, which one should I go with? He gives you so many good ones."
There are 350 this year, to be exact. What started as a way to keep people interested in betting in blowout games has turned into big business.
"It represents 50 percent of our total handle of the entire Super Bowl, so it's a big chunk of the action for us," said the LVH's Jay Kornegay."



You could have saved yourself a lot of embarrassment by just looking this stuff up yourself. Just sayin.

 

[TheChathamPontiff]

No, it was much easier having you do it. Thanks. I never said it wasnt true, but with the amount of bullshit you throw around here I'd need to question anything you said.

I've been on the Pats since the line came out. I'm on record as saying they will win by at least a touchdown. If they don't then I lose money. Please fade me and I'll have more of an interest.

 

[Maris9]

No, it was much easier having you do it. Thanks. I never said it wasnt true, but with the amount of bullshit you throw around here I'd need to question anything you said.

I've been on the Pats since the line came out. I'm on record as saying they will win by at least a touchdown. If they don't then I lose money. Please fade me and I'll have more of an interest.

I never have and never will use "fading" people as a betting technique, or be on one side vs another just because one side is getting a little more action. That's all little kid sh*t, and I think you know and can agree with that.


And REALLY, "the amount of bullshit I throw around?" Come on guy, what have I said this week?


1- I've said all week that there's currently approx 60/40 on the Giants in this game, and not the OVERWHELMINGLY high percentage some are making it out to be.
True


2- I got into a discussion with TheOMan guy over the fact that the Patriots have been, over the recent history, a Public team, and people pay a premium to bet on them.
True (common sense, but I proved it to him by posting a bunch of stuff just like I did for you, and he hasn't returned to that thread since).


3- I said that Prop bets make up about 50% of the total take on the Superbowl nowadays.
Again....True. I just proved it to you here.


So really, again....what the eff are you talking about? I haven't said anything, in the slightest, that represents bullshit.

 

[RDTrains]

Looking forward to your next "new" post on why the Giants are the correct side.

 

[SureGuy]

80-1 is more then descent

 

[TheOMan]

Since apparently your Google search doesn't work:

Woah, woah, woah - wait one fucking second here.

You made the claim that 50% of the handle is from prop bets. YOU made the claim.

The burden of proof is on the claimant. Don't get all pissy when someone asks you to back up your claims with some evidence.

This is how logical argumentation works. Your claim? Your job to provide evidence.

 

[TheOMan]

I never have and never will use "fading" people as a betting technique, or be on one side vs another just because one side is getting a little more action. That's all little kid sh*t, and I think you know and can agree with that.


And REALLY, "the amount of bullshit I throw around?" Come on guy, what have I said this week?


1- I've said all week that there's currently approx 60/40 on the Giants in this game, and not the OVERWHELMINGLY high percentage some are making it out to be.
True


2- I got into a discussion with TheOMan guy over the fact that the Patriots have been, over the recent history, a Public team, and people pay a premium to bet on them.
True (common sense, but I proved it to him by posting a bunch of stuff just like I did for you, and he hasn't returned to that thread since).


3- I said that Prop bets make up about 50% of the total take on the Superbowl nowadays.
Again....True. I just proved it to you here.


So really, again....what the eff are you talking about? I haven't said anything, in the slightest, that represents bullshit.

You post like you're trying to convince yourself that this is true, but you just can't seem to do it.

Don't worry - if you keep posting it, you will eventually believe it.

 

[TheChathamPontiff]

Woah, woah, woah - wait one fucking second here.

You made the claim that 50% of the handle is from prop bets. YOU made the claim.

The burden of proof is on the claimant. Don't get all pissy when someone asks you to back up your claims with some evidence.

This is how logical argumentation works. Your claim? Your job to provide evidence.

Exxxaaactly. I never said I disagreed with the claim, just wanted proof. And the proof he provided is not overwhelmingly strong. I wouldn't trust everything a bookmaker told me about his operation.

 

[Willie99]

Maris, does this make you feel better?

 

[PAPASMURF]

you are wrong.

futures.

what about what about all the futures that already lost .. .Im sure they made a killing on that already

 

[wabashwonders]

Where is the evidence that 50% of total Super Bowl action is on prop bets? Or is that just more of your bullshit? You still haven't addressed why youre obsessed with trying to prove that the money isnt going to NY. No one cares what or how you bet. I hope you lose your shirt and then some tomorrow.

Roger Maris was a fucking asshole.

here is your evidence...

http://www.fox5vegas.com/story/16646849/super-bowl-prop-bets-big-business-in-las-vegas