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These bills are laughable, they aren't really enforceable and basically do nothing.
 

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The recent legislation that has passed through the US House of Representatives sets the stage for a vote on the same type of legislation in the Senate and if passed there, the President will likely sign it into law. If this becomes law, this industry will be dramatically affected. The other bills have never made it this far with a vote that meets this one. The decision was unanimous. The senate has already announced that they are in support of the bill. This most likely means it is finally going through.
 

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Actually, I think we are all toast.
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If this bill becomes law then a lot of the predictions of "Biff's Almanac" would come true... albeit a bit later than he predicted.
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the bill has no teeth.without it being a crime who gives a shat.by football season there will 10 new ways to deposit and withdraw funds.
 

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thanks for the site...I already have sent letters not sure if it will work...I wonder if they will pass it before THIS NFL/NCAA season
 

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NO IT WAS NOT THE LEACH BILL, THERE ARE SOME REVISION'S TO IT TO MAKE IT MORE OPEN...I IF YOU GO BACK AND CHECK SOME POSTS FROM LAST WEEK YOU CAN FIND MORE ABOUT IT.......G
 

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Aaron65 - That site was put up by CasinoMobster.com and it takes you to the U.S. Senate site. Send the letter to your Senator!

In addition CONTINUE putting pressure on your local Reps as they will be trying to influence the Senators as well.
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Don't STOP putting pressure on these politicians just because one bill passed in the House..it still has to go to the Senate and will probably be changed and/or killed there.

All the Average Citizen can do is Visit, Call and Email your Local reps in your area.

***If you state in your letter you DO NOT AGREE and OPPOSE the views of Judiciary Committee Chairman James Sensenbrenner and House Democrats who oppose an outright ban on online gambling.*** it might be the right kind of PRESSURE

Here is the site you need to go to to Tell your Representative and Senators to oppose H.R. 21 and S. 627, the so-called Unlawful Internet Gambling Funding Prohibition Acts! Or any NEW bill that tries to ban Online Gambling. Fill out the form on this page to take action on this important issue (your privacy will be protected) http://www.profreedom.com/
 

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So it was NOT the Leach Bill.

Can some here please tell me and everyone else here just what did pass the House i.e. what provisions within the Bill will - if signed into law - effect the US gamblers?

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Anyone here actually know just what bill did pass the House? And what it seeks to prohibit???

This is what we have so far:

1) A bill allegedly passed the House and is now off to the Senate

2) It "has no teeth"

3) It's NOT the Leach Bill

4) It's time to move to Las Vegas

5) "If this bill becomes law then a lot of the predictions of "Biff's Almanac" would come true"

6) "If the senate follow through there will be no more online bets from the U.S. over the Internet"... SAY WHAT??
 

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Don't worry fellas, I'm on this thing. I checked Majorw***r for possible info. on this mysterious bill that has just passed the House. Evidently the news of this catastrophe has yet to reach them - NOT SURPRISING.

I also clicked on Aaron65's link. Unfortunately, we are only told that "The House of Representatives has just passed a bill that will make it almost impossible to gamble online from the United States" But it's NOT the Leach Bill
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This is a mystery, riddle and enigma all wrapped up in a twine of confusion. Nevertheless, I’ll remain persistent.

Courtesy of IntutionBet and Aaron65 we do know that we will never be able to make another bet over the Internet... if this bill is ever signed into law. There is also a rumor...that the senate's version will allow the feds to seize all your worldly possessions if you are caught logging into a sportsbook. Stay tuned...
 

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I'm still on this one guys...so don't worry. But I must admit, I am getting a little suspicious. What LAW WAS JUSR PASSED BY THE HOUSE? is the question.

where's Wild Bill? Surely he would know.


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There was an anti gambling bill that passed thru the House today and is now on its way to the Senate.

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It passed on June 10th - following is the text from http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?c108:2:./temp/~c108Yv1lzX::


Unlawful Internet Gambling Funding Prohibition Act (Engrossed as Agreed to or Passed by House)


108th CONGRESS

1st Session

H. R. 2143

AN ACT
To prevent the use of certain bank instruments for unlawful Internet gambling , and for other purposes.

HR 2143 EH


108th CONGRESS

1st Session

H. R. 2143


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AN ACT
To prevent the use of certain bank instruments for unlawful Internet gambling , and for other purposes.


Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

This Act may be cited as the `Unlawful Internet Gambling Funding Prohibition Act'.

SEC. 2. FINDINGS.

The Congress finds as follows:

(1) Internet gambling is primarily funded through personal use of bank instruments, including credit cards and wire transfers.

(2) The National Gambling Impact Study Commission in 1999 recommended the passage of legislation to prohibit wire transfers to Internet gambling sites or the banks which represent them.

(3) Internet gambling is a major cause of debt collection problems for insured depository institutions and the consumer credit industry.

(4) Internet gambling conducted through offshore jurisdictions has been identified by United States law enforcement officials as a significant money laundering vulnerability.

SEC. 3. POLICIES AND PROCEDURES REQUIRED TO PREVENT PAYMENTS FOR UNLAWFUL INTERNET GAMBLING .

(a) REGULATIONS- Before the end of the 6-month period beginning on the date of the enactment of this Act, the Federal functional regulators shall prescribe regulations requiring any designated payment system to establish policies and procedures reasonably designed to identify and prevent restricted transactions in any of the following ways:

(1) The establishment of policies and procedures that--

(A) allow the payment system and any person involved in the payment system to identify restricted transactions by means of codes in authorization messages or by other means; and

(B) block restricted transactions identified as a result of the policies and procedures developed pursuant to subparagraph (A).

(2) The establishment of policies and procedures that prevent the acceptance of the products or services of the payment system in connection with a restricted transaction.

(b) REQUIREMENTS FOR POLICIES AND PROCEDURES- In prescribing regulations pursuant to subsection (a), the Federal functional regulators shall--

(1) identify types of policies and procedures, including nonexclusive examples, which would be deemed to be `reasonably designed to identify' and `reasonably designed to block' or to `prevent the acceptance of the products or services' with respect to each type of transaction, such as, should credit card transactions be so designated, identifying transactions by a code or codes in the authorization message and denying authorization of a credit card transaction in response to an authorization message;

(2) to the extent practical, permit any participant in a payment system to choose among alternative means of identifying and blocking, or otherwise preventing the acceptance of the products or services of the payment system or participant in connection with, restricted transactions; and

(3) consider exempting restricted transactions from any requirement under subsection (a) if the Federal functional regulators find that it is not reasonably practical to identify and block, or otherwise prevent, such transactions.

(c) COMPLIANCE WITH PAYMENT SYSTEM POLICIES AND PROCEDURES- A creditor, credit card issuer, financial institution, operator of a terminal at which an electronic fund transfer may be initiated, money transmitting business, or international, national, regional, or local network utilized to effect a credit transaction, electronic fund transfer, or money transmitting service, or a participant in such network, meets the requirement of subsection (a) if--

(1) such person relies on and complies with the policies and procedures of a designated payment system of which it is a member or participant to--

(A) identify and block restricted transactions; or

(B) otherwise prevent the acceptance of the products or services of the payment system, member, or participant in connection with restricted transactions; and

(2) such policies and procedures of the designated payment system comply with the requirements of regulations prescribed under subsection (a).

(d) ENFORCEMENT-

(1) IN GENERAL- This section shall be enforced by the Federal functional regulators and the Federal Trade Commission under applicable law in the manner provided in section 505(a) of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act.

(2) FACTORS TO BE CONSIDERED- In considering any enforcement action under this subsection against any payment system, or any participant in a payment system that is a creditor, credit card issuer, financial institution, operator of a terminal at which an electronic fund transfer may be initiated, money transmitting business, or international, national, regional, or local network utilized to effect a credit transaction, electronic fund transfer, or money transmitting service, or a participant in such network, the Federal functional regulators and the Federal Trade Commission shall consider the following factors:

(A) The extent to which such person is extending credit or transmitting funds knowing the transaction is in connection with unlawful Internet gambling .

(B) The history of such person in extending credit or transmitting funds knowing the transaction is in connection with unlawful Internet gambling .

(C) The extent to which such person has established and is maintaining policies and procedures in compliance with regulations prescribed under this subsection.

(D) The feasibility that any specific remedy prescribed can be implemented by such person without substantial deviation from normal business practice.

(E) The costs and burdens the specific remedy will have on such person.

SEC. 4. DEFINITIONS.

For purposes of this Act, the following definitions shall apply:

(1) RESTRICTED TRANSACTION- The term `restricted transaction' means any transaction or transmittal to any person engaged in the business of betting or wagering, in connection with the participation of another person in unlawful Internet gambling , of--

(A) credit, or the proceeds of credit, extended to or on behalf of such other person (including credit extended through the use of a credit card);

(B) an electronic fund transfer or funds transmitted by or through a money transmitting business, or the proceeds of an electronic fund transfer or money transmitting service, from or on behalf of the other person;

(C) any check, draft, or similar instrument which is drawn by or on behalf of the other person and is drawn on or payable at or through any financial institution; or

(D) the proceeds of any other form of financial transaction as the Federal functional regulators may prescribe by regulation which involves a financial institution as a payor or financial intermediary on behalf of or for the benefit of the other person.

(2) BETS OR WAGERS- The term `bets or wagers'--

(A) means the staking or risking by any person of something of value upon the outcome of a contest of others, a sporting event, or a game subject to chance, upon an agreement or understanding that the person or another person will receive something of greater value than the amount staked or risked in the event of a certain outcome;

(B) includes the purchase of a chance or opportunity to win a lottery or other prize (which opportunity to win is predominantly subject to chance);

(C) includes any scheme of a type described in section 3702 of title 28, United States Code;

(D) includes any instructions or information pertaining to the establishment or movement of funds in an account by the bettor or customer with the business of betting or wagering; and

(E) does not include--

(i) any activity governed by the securities laws (as that term is defined in section 3(a)(47) of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934) for the purchase or sale of securities (as that term is defined in section 3(a)(10) of such Act);

(ii) any transaction conducted on or subject to the rules of a registered entity or exempt board of trade pursuant to the Commodity Exchange Act;

(iii) any over-the-counter derivative instrument;

(iv) any other transaction that--

(I) is excluded or exempt from regulation under the Commodity Exchange Act; or

(II) is exempt from State gaming or bucket shop laws under section 12(e) of the Commodity Exchange Act or section 28(a) of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934;

(v) any contract of indemnity or guarantee;

(vi) any contract for insurance;

(vii) any deposit or other transaction with a depository institution (as defined in section 3(c) of the Federal Deposit Insurance Act);

(viii) any participation in a simulation sports game or an educational game or contest that--

(I) is not dependent solely on the outcome of any single sporting event or nonparticipant's singular individual performance in any single sporting event;

(II) has an outcome that reflects the relative knowledge and skill of the participants with such outcome determined predominantly by accumulated statistical results of sporting events; and

(III) offers a prize or award to a participant that is established in advance of the game or contest and is not determined by the number of participants or the amount of any fees paid by those participants; and

(ix) any lawful transaction with a business licensed or authorized by a State.

(3) DESIGNATED PAYMENT SYSTEM DEFINED- The term `designated payment system' means any system utilized by any creditor, credit card issuer, financial institution, operator of a terminal at which an electronic fund transfer may be initiated, money transmitting business, or international, national, regional, or local network utilized to effect a credit transaction, electronic fund transfer, or money transmitting service, or any participant in such network, that the Federal functional regulators determine, by regulation or order, could be utilized in connection with, or to facilitate, any restricted transaction.

(4) FEDERAL FUNCTIONAL REGULATOR- The term `Federal functional regulator' has the same meaning as in section 509(2) of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act.

(5) INTERNET- The term `Internet' means the international computer network of interoperable packet switched data networks.

(6) UNLAWFUL INTERNET GAMBLING - The term `unlawful Internet gambling' means to place, receive, or otherwise transmit a bet or wager by any means which involves the use, at least in part, of the Internet where such bet or wager is unlawful under any applicable Federal or State law in the State in which the bet or wager is initiated, received, or otherwise made.

(7) OTHER TERMS-

(A) CREDIT; CREDITOR; AND CREDIT CARD- The terms `credit', `creditor', and `credit card' have the meanings given such terms in section 103 of the Truth in Lending Act.

(B) ELECTRONIC FUND TRANSFER- The term `electronic fund transfer'--

(i) has the meaning given such term in section 903 of the Electronic Fund Transfer Act; and

(ii) includes any fund transfer covered by Article 4A of the Uniform Commercial Code, as in effect in any State.

(C) FINANCIAL INSTITUTION- The term `financial institution'--

(i) has the meaning given such term in section 903 of the Electronic Fund Transfer Act; and

(ii) includes any financial institution, as defined in section 509(3) of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act.

(D) MONEY TRANSMITTING BUSINESS AND MONEY TRANSMITTING SERVICE- The terms `money transmitting business' and `money transmitting service' have the meanings given such terms in section 5330(d) of title 31, United States Code.

SEC. 5. COMMON SENSE RULE OF CONSTRUCTION.

No provision of this Act shall be construed as altering, limiting, extending, changing the status of, or otherwise affecting any law relating to, affecting, or regulating gambling within the United States.
Passed the House of Representatives June 10, 2003.

Attest:

Clerk.
 

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Note - from what I read, the criminal penalties were removed to help get this bill passed, but they are working on getting them added back in when the House and Senate do their usual bill modification. It is currently a bill that's passed the House, it is not a law.
 

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Thanks Jazz.

6) UNLAWFUL INTERNET GAMBLING - The term `unlawful Internet gambling' means to place, receive, or otherwise transmit a bet or wager by any means which involves the use, at least in part, of the Internet where such bet or wager is unlawful under any applicable Federal or State law in the State in which the bet or wager is initiated, received, or otherwise made.

This provision in particularly scary. The way I read it there is no doubt this bill, in its present form, will clearly prohibit all US citizens from making a wager/bet over the internet.

Jeez, I hate this gov! of ours. They are obsessed with writing laws
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Leach & Co.
 

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