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http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/478219/End-this-gun-insanity-pleads-grieving-father

Of course, it'll be met with deaf ears. The Guns nuts have won. The Politicians are too cowardly. Another major failing of the Obama administration. Too gutless to go against these nuts.

[h=1]End this gun insanity pleads grieving father[/h] [h=3]AMONG the victims of gun killer Elliot Rodger was a young art history student described last night as “a shining star”.[/h] By: Mark Reynolds
Published: Mon, May 26, 2014







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Richard Martinez spoke out following the death of his son Christopher[EPA]
Katie Cooper, 22, was one of three of the six victims who were named during the day.
She died along with her friend Veronika Weiss, 19, and Christopher Martinez, 20.
Christopher was identified by his devastated father Richard, who made an emotional appeal for better gun control in the US.
“Our son Christopher and six others are dead,” he said, sobbing and shaking with anger. “You don’t think it’ll happen to your child until it does.
“They talk about gun rights. What about Chris’s right to live?
“When will enough people say, ‘Stop this madness! We don’t have to live like this! Too many people have died!’
“Why did Chris die? Chris died because of craven, irresponsible politicians and the NRA [National Rifle Association].” Mr Martinez added: “We should say to ourselves, “Not! One! More!”’
When will enough people say, ‘Stop this madness! We don’t have to live like this! Too many people have died
Richard Martinez, father of Christopher
According to her Facebook page, Miss Cooper had studied art history and archeology at the University of California in Santa Barbara.
Her devastated aunt, Stacy Simmer, called her “a shining star” adding: “She did a lot of charity fundraising.
“She was studying archeology and she was in a wonderful sorority [female student group]. Her parents, Katie and Dan, left for Santa Barbara as soon as they heard.
“Her two brothers, Nick, 26, a chemist in Colorado, and Jon, still in college, are on their way there now. They were as close as any siblings can be.”
Miss Weiss, from Westlake Village in California, was in the same sorority as Katie.
She had been a member of the Westlake High School water polo team, her friends said.
The three male victims who were stabbed to death by Rodger have yet to be named.
 

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Of course, if we did what Mr. Martinez wants we would have a lot more people unable to defend themselves, more crime, and more murder victims.
 

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Of course, it'll be met with deaf ears. The Guns nuts have won. The Politicians are too cowardly. Another major failing of the Obama administration. Too gutless to go against these nuts.

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Again:

Do gun control laws work? New figures from the nation’s most populous state, which also happens to have the nation’s toughest statewide gun laws, suggest they do.


California passed some of the nation’s toughest gun laws over the past two decades, and gun deaths across the state have declined by more than half, according to a new study by a California-based nonprofit research group.


Among all 50 states, California has perhaps the strongest gun control laws. “California is at the very top end of firearms regulation,” legal expert Bryan L. Ciyou and author of “Gun Laws By State” told msnbc.


California has at least 30 gun laws in place including a ban on military-style weapons and high-capacity magazines, requirements of safety design for handguns, and various steps to help law enforcement authorities get guns out of the hands of felons and domestic abusers.

http://www.msnbc.com/all/california-...ntrol-laws-cut

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What kind of idiot (not the grieving father, the dope who started this thread) takes seriously the idea that the NRA has some sort of sway in California?

It wasn't 9 months ago liberals were bragging about how tough California's gun laws were.

Not to mention, 3 people were stabbed to death (I guess they don't matter as they can't be used as political props) before a shot was fired.

"gun nutz!!!!"

Hilarious.

You can't parody these people anymore.
 

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What kind of idiot (not the grieving father, the dope who started this thread) takes seriously the idea that the NRA has some sort of sway in California?

It wasn't 9 months ago liberals were bragging about how tough California's gun laws were.

Not to mention, 3 people were stabbed to death (I guess they don't matter as they can't be used as political props) before a shot was fired.

"gun nutz!!!!"

Hilarious.

You can't parody these people anymore.

No surprise, coming from continuous PROVEN LIAR Ace that he steers the topic away from guns, and tries to bring Knives into it. Irrelevant.
His latest PROVEN lie was stating for a fact that Vit violated his bet and posted in the Poli Forum. It was just another Lie in the Continuing Lying World of Ace, and of course, he just ignored it and is on to his next lie.
You are a shameless, liar, with zero morals.
 

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No surprise, coming from continuous PROVEN LIAR Ace that he steers the topic away from guns, and tries to bring Knives into it. Irrelevant.

Yes, the 3 people who were stabbed to death are totally IRRELEVANT to your dipshit political agenda.

I already said this.
 

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The man is for sane gun control, and a Gov't with the guts to institute it. Unfortunately that ain't the US Gov't.

Notice you have zero response to the fact that California has some of the toughest gun laws in America.

None. You've been reduced to admitted the 3 people this nut stabbed to death are 'IRRELEVANT'

You're a laughable imbecile.
 

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His latest PROVEN lie was stating for a fact that Vit violated his bet and posted in the Poli Forum. It was just another Lie in the Continuing Lying World of Ace, and of course, he just ignored it and is on to his next lie.
You are a shameless, liar, with zero morals.

This is hysterical.

Notice, there are no "lies" here. The nut stabbed 3 people to death before shooting 3 people to death.

Your screeching about stifftard posting in the political forum has nothing to do with the topic.

But of course since you can't respond to facts, you will screech.
 

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Sane now means banning handguns?

Sane Gun Control does not mean banning, and nowhere in this poor soul's statement was the word banning used. It means stricter controls, strict background checks, longer waiting periods, etc. Make it more difficult to get guns. Stuff the NRA used to be for, and most of America is for. Until the NRA became a simple mouthpiece for Gun Manufacturers, and for the uncontrolled proliferation of guns.
 

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This is hysterical.

Notice, there are no "lies" here. The nut stabbed 3 people to death before shooting 3 people to death.

Your screeching about stifftard posting in the political forum has nothing to do with the topic.

But of course since you can't respond to facts, you will screech.

It goes to character. You have ZERO. You are a Proven, continuous Liar. Who Lies, continuously, shamelessly. And then just moves on to the next one.
 

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Sane Gun Control does not mean banning, and nowhere in this poor soul's statement was the word banning used. It means stricter controls, strict background checks, longer waiting periods, etc. Make it more difficult to get guns. Stuff the NRA used to be for, and most of America is for. Until the NRA became a simple mouthpiece for Gun Manufacturers, and for the uncontrolled proliferation of guns.

Uh, there isn't a single gun law that would have stopped this nut.

See stupid, the guy stabbed people to death. He would have stabbed more had he not had a handgun, and/or he probably would have run over people with his car.

Additionally:

Some of the gun laws passed by California since the late 1990s include prohibiting the manufacture or sale of handguns that lack safety standards, and requiring new handgun models to include “chamber load indicators” to help prevent accidental shootings.
California also passed laws to ban ammunition magazines capable of holding more than 10 rounds, and a test to define what constitutes a banned military-style “assault” weapon.

California created the first database of individuals with legally-purchased firearms who subsequently were prohibited from possessing them (for example, being under a domestic abuse restraining order). The state required retailers to keep records of handgun ammunition sales, and all rifle and shotgun sales.

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Your posts on this topic are comically ignorant.
 

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It goes to character. You have ZERO. You are a Proven, continuous Liar. Who Lies, continuously, shamelessly. And then just moves on to the next one.

Except you have the problem of being able to point to any actual "lies"

But keep screeching about those 3 people that were stabbed to death being irrelevant.

It is quite indicative of your character.
 

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Sane Gun Control does not mean banning, and nowhere in this poor soul's statement was the word banning used. It means stricter controls, strict background checks, longer waiting periods, etc. Make it more difficult to get guns.

Uh, nothing prevented California from doing these things.

In fact, California's gun laws have been written by Democrats for more than 25 years.

Watching you flail on this topic is hysterical
 

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Except you have the problem of being able to point to any actual "lies"

But keep screeching about those 3 people that were stabbed to death being irrelevant.

It is quite indicative of your character.

No problem whatsoever.
Stated as FACT that Vit posted in Political Forum after losing his bet- LIE
Stated that Frazier Glen Miller ran as a Democrat Multiple times- LIE
Stated I never criticized Obama without referencing Bush- LIE
 

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Uh, there isn't a single gun law that would have stopped this nut.

See stupid, the guy stabbed people to death. He would have stabbed more had he not had a handgun, and/or he probably would have run over people with his car.

Additionally:

Some of the gun laws passed by California since the late 1990s include prohibiting the manufacture or sale of handguns that lack safety standards, and requiring new handgun models to include “chamber load indicators” to help prevent accidental shootings.
California also passed laws to ban ammunition magazines capable of holding more than 10 rounds, and a test to define what constitutes a banned military-style “assault” weapon.

California created the first database of individuals with legally-purchased firearms who subsequently were prohibited from possessing them (for example, being under a domestic abuse restraining order). The state required retailers to keep records of handgun ammunition sales, and all rifle and shotgun sales.

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Your posts on this topic are comically ignorant.

http://www.reddit.com/r/GunsAreCool/comments/16a2y4/the_logical_fallacy_of_false_equivalency/
 

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