This is the Problem with Vegans and PETA movement if you disagree with them the keep slamming it down your throat, till you want to kill the. Make your point and then STFU, and move on. You bulling someone is not going to change there habits...
Enough said. I'm off to McDonald's for a Double Cheeseburger and Fries...
Merry Christmas to all!
Enough said. I'm off to McDonald's for a Double Cheeseburger and Fries...
Merry Christmas to all!
Speaking generally, not necessarily to you.
Doctors aren't in the business of protecting you from getting sick. Actually the American Government will okay these things for sick people knowing it wont help them.
Doctors and the rest of this country are not trying to prevent you from getting sick/eating meat. If that's not their business, what is? Their business is to be sitting there with open arms for when you DO get sick. Doctors aare not trying to protect you or prevent you from causing harm to your health. They are there waiting when the damage is already done. It's a cycle all incentivised by money honestly. They don't really care about your health or there would be real information widely known by everyone.
that's not true Mob, doctors are people too and like most people, they're inherently good
You can pretty much be assured, that when Shub says something he knows for sure - that he's 100% wrong. The guy
has the IQ of a fucking hemorrhoid. He hears something from his militant vegan puppet masters, and he repeats
it like a mindless lemming. Also pretty humorous, is that he thinks "things" is a contraction for "thing is."
[ From liberal Time magazine, quoting the International Journal of Science:
https://www.nature.com/articles/nature16990
]
You know you want it—or at least your brain does
The Washington Post/Getty Images
By JEFFREY KLUGER March 9, 2016
Science doesn’t give a hoot about your politics. Think global warming is a hoax or that vaccines are dangerous? Doesn’t matter, you’re wrong.
Something similar is true of veganism. Vegans are absolutely right when they say that a plant-based diet can be healthy, varied and exceedingly satisfying, and that—not for nothing—it spares animals from the serial torments of being part of the human food chain. All good so far.
But there’s veganism and then there’s Veganism—the upper case, ideological veganism, the kind that goes beyond diet and lifestyle wisdom to a sort of counterfactual crusade. For this crowd, it has become an article of faith that not only is meat-eating bad for humans, but that it’s always been bad for humans—that we were never meant to eat animal products at all, and that our teeth, facial structure and digestive systems are proof of that.
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You see it in Nine Reasons Your Canine Teeth Don’t Make You a Meat-Eater; in PETA’s Yes, It’s True: Humans Aren’t Meant to Eat Meat; in Shattering the Myth: Humans Are Natural Vegetarians. (Google “humans aren’t supposed to eat meat” and have at it.)
But sorry, it just ain’t so. As a new study in Nature makes clear, not only did processing and eating meat come naturally to humans, it’s entirely possible that without an early diet that included generous amounts of animal protein, we wouldn’t even have becomehuman—at least not the modern, verbal, intelligent humans we are.
It was about 2.6 million years ago that meat first became a significant part of the pre-human diet, and if Australopithecus had had a forehead to slap it would surely have done so. Being an herbivore was easy—fruits and vegetables don’t run away, after all. But they’re also not terribly calorie-dense. A better alternative were so-called underground storage organs (USOs)—root foods like beets and yams and potatoes. They pack a bigger nutritional wallop, but they’re not terribly tasty—at least not raw—and they’re very hard to chew. According to Harvard University evolutionary biologists Katherine Zink and Daniel Lieberman, the authors of the Nature paper, proto-humans eating enough root food to stay alive would have had to go through up to 15 million “chewing cycles” a year.
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This is where meat stepped—and ran and scurried—in to save the day. Prey that has been killed and then prepared either by slicing, pounding or flaking provides a much more calorie-rich meal with much less chewing than root foods do, boosting nutrient levels overall. (Cooking, which would have made things easier still, did not come into vogue until 500,000 years ago.)
In order to determine how much effort primitive humans saved by eating a diet that included processed animal protein, Zink and Lieberman recruited 24 decidedly modern humans and fed them samples of three kinds of OSU’s (jewel yams, carrots and beets) and one kind of meat (goat, raw, but screened to ensure the absence of any pathogens). Using electromyography sensors, they then measured how much energy the muscles of the head and jaw had to exert to chew and swallow the samples either whole or prepared one of the three ancient ways.
On average, they found that it required from 39% to 46% less force to chew and swallow processed meat than processed root foods. Slicing worked best for meat, not only making it especially easy to chew, but also reducing the size of the individual particles in any swallow, making them more digestible. For OSUs, pounding was best—a delightful fact that one day would lead to the mashed potato. Overall, Zink and Lieberman concluded, a diet that was one-third animal protein and two-thirds OSUs would have saved early humans about two million chews per year—a 13% reduction—meaning a commensurate savings in time and calorie-burning effort just to get dinner down.
That mattered for reasons that went beyond just giving our ancient ancestors a few extra free hours in their days. A brain is a very nutritionally demanding organ, and if you want to grow a big one, eating at least some meat will provide you far more calories with far less effort than a meatless menu will. What’s more, while animal muscle eaten straight from the carcass requires a lot of ripping and tearing—which demands big, sharp teeth and a powerful bite—once we learned to process our meat, we could do away with some of that, developing smaller teeth and a less pronounced and muscular jaw. This, in turn, may have led to other changes in the skull and neck, favoring a larger brain, better thermoregulation and more advanced speech organs.
“Whatever selection pressures favored these shifts,” the researchers wrote, “they would not have been possible without increased meat consumption combined with food processing technology.”
None of that, of course, means that increased meat consumption—or any meat consumption at all—is necessary for the proto-humans’ 21st century descendants. The modern pleasures of a grilled steak or a BLT may well be trumped by the health and environmental benefits of going vegan—and if the animals got a vote, they’d surely agree. But saying no to meat today does not mean that your genes and your history don’t continue to give it a loud and rousing yes.
Nope. Complete bullshit lie from Shub, yet again.
It becomes a carcinogen when it is cooked too long at too high a temperature, and/or charred.
https://www.npr.org/sections/thesal...heat-when-cooking-meat-may-reduce-cancer-risk
http://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/20...-foods-you-probably-eat-every-day_a_21452232/
good and bad in all walks of life, but most health practitioners do have the patient's best interest at heart. To think otherwise is, well, reeks of paranoia. And I don't think Big Phrama wants people to stay sick-- big Pharma wants to SELL its products. It will go as far as influencing (polluting) govt/ health practitioners /the public. Just watch TV.... there are FCUKIN COMMERCIALS BY PHARMA TELLING THE PUBLIC DRUG XYZ does this and that (then at the end they go over the list of side effects, lol)
there needs to be a paradigm shift in healthcare. In doing so, it would decrease costs to the entire system. Healthcare costs are in a disturbing trajectory.
we have managed to convince the public that they need to take pills indefinitely. It's amazing. Think about that-- keep taking a fuckin' pill. The pill doesnt cure the underlying problem (speaking of acquired chronic disease) and some potentially have harmful long-term effects (.......................https://www.classaction.com/lipitor/lawsuit/ )
Our model needs to change to a patient centered one. Wellness. Preventative. Doctors need TIME to do this, so payment model must change. There`s no incentive to prevent, rather to treat. Education driven.
take a look at the growth of the Cleveland Clinic (functional medicine -aimed at causation of disease not symptoms)-- that`s Dr Hyman`s baby. It started as a small clinic and now its a 17,000 square feet facility with a long waiting list of people trying to get in. This tells us that people are turning to other medical methodologies. What has the current healthcare model done to control chronic disease --rates are RISING, which means rising healthcare costs.
there needs to be a paradigm shift in healthcare. In doing so, it would decrease costs to the entire system. Healthcare costs are in a disturbing trajectory.
we have managed to convince the public that they need to take pills indefinitely. It's amazing. Think about that-- keep taking a fuckin' pill. The pill doesnt cure the underlying problem (speaking of acquired chronic disease) and some potentially have harmful long-term effects (.......................https://www.classaction.com/lipitor/lawsuit/ )
Our model needs to change to a patient centered one. Wellness. Preventative. Doctors need TIME to do this, so payment model must change. There`s no incentive to prevent, rather to treat. Education driven.
take a look at the growth of the Cleveland Clinic (functional medicine -aimed at causation of disease not symptoms)-- that`s Dr Hyman`s baby. It started as a small clinic and now its a 17,000 square feet facility with a long waiting list of people trying to get in. This tells us that people are turning to other medical methodologies. What has the current healthcare model done to control chronic disease --rates are RISING, which means rising healthcare costs.
