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Obama Dominating Among Early Voters in Five Swing States

<style>#fullpost {display:none;}</style> SurveyUSA has a lot of good habits as a pollster, and one of them is breaking out the results of early and absentee voting in states where such things are allowed. So far, SurveyUSA has conducted polling in five states where some form of early voting was underway. In each one, Barack Obama is doing profoundly better among early voters than among the state's electorate as a whole:


... Poll % Voted Non-Early
State Date Early Early Voters Likely Voters
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NM 10/13 10% Obama +23% Obama +6%
OH 10/13 12% Obama +18% Obama +4%
GA 10/12 18% Obama +6% McCain +11%
IA 10/9 14% Obama +34% Obama +10%
NC 10/6 5% Obama +34% McCain +5%</pre>We should caveat that these are not hard-and-fast numbers. Estimates of early voting results are subject to the same statistical vagaries as any other sort of subgroup analysis, such as response bias and small sample sizes.

Nevertheless, Obama is leading by an average of 23 points among early voters in these five states, states which went to George W. Bush by an average of 6.5 points in 2004.

Is this a typical pattern for a Democrat? Actually, it's not. According to a study by Kate Kenski at the University of Arizona, early voters leaned Republican in both 2000 and 2004; with Bush earning 62.2 percent of their votes against Al Gore, and 60.4 percent against John Kerry. In the past, early voters have also tended to be older than the voting population as a whole and more male than the population as a whole, factors which would seem to cut against Obama or most other Democrats.

Now certainly, early voters tend to be your stauncher partisans rather than your uncommitted voters -- just 1-2 percent of early voters in 2000 and 2004 reported that they would have voted differently if they'd waited until election day. So it's unlikely that John McCain is actually losing all that many persuadable voters to the early voter tallies.

What these results would seem to suggest, however, is that there are fairly massive advantages for the Democrats in enthusiasm and/or turnout operations. They imply that Obama is quite likely to turn out his base in large numbers; the question is whether the Republicans will be able to do the same.

Keep in mind that there are veteran pollsters like Ann Selzer who think that most of her colleagues are vastly understating the degree to which youth and minority turnout is liable to improve in this election; Selzer's polls have been 5-6 points more favorable to Obama than the averages in the states that she's surveyed. So while these early voting numbers could turn out to be something of a curiosity, they could alternatively represent a canary in the coal mine for a coming Democratic turnout wave.
 

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Good to see you guys progressing from the anger stage to the denial stage.
 

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I know what's relevant and what's poppycock.

I believe McCain is probably losing right now, but not nearly by the margins suggested by CBS or this lame twist on things.

This chit reminds me of all those Ron Paul straw polls :ohno:

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Obama won't win Ohio-3rd time posted

I bet he does. But he doesn't need to win Ohio, so its rather irrelevant.
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<table class="data"><tbody><tr><th class="noCenter">Poll</th><th class="date">Date</th><th>Sample</th><th>Obama (D)</th><th>McCain (R)</th><th class="spread">Spread</th></tr><tr class="rcpAvg"><td class="noCenter">RCP Average</td><td>10/03 - 10/13</td><td>--</td><td>48.9</td><td>45.5</td><td class="spread">Obama +3.4</td></tr><tr><td class="noCenter">SurveyUSA</td><td>10/12 - 10/13</td><td>575 LV</td><td>50</td><td>45</td><td class="spread">Obama +5</td></tr><tr class="alt"><td class="noCenter">FOX News/Rasmussen</td><td>10/12 - 10/12</td><td>1000 LV</td><td>49</td><td>47</td><td class="spread">Obama +2</td></tr><tr><td class="noCenter">Marist</td><td>10/05 - 10/08</td><td>771 LV</td><td>49</td><td>45</td><td class="spread">Obama +4</td></tr><tr class="alt"><td class="noCenter">Ohio Newspaper Poll</td><td>10/04 - 10/08</td><td>876 LV</td><td>46</td><td>48</td><td class="spread">McCain +2</td></tr><tr><td class="noCenter">InAdv/PollPosition</td><td>10/09 - 10/09</td><td>509 LV</td><td>49</td><td>44</td><td class="spread">Obama +5</td></tr><tr class="alt"><td class="noCenter">Strategic Vision (R)</td><td>10/06 - 10/08</td><td>1200 LV</td><td>48</td><td>46</td><td class="spread">Obama +2</td></tr><tr><td class="noCenter">ARG</td><td>10/04 - 10/07</td><td>600 LV</td><td>48</td><td>45</td><td class="spread">Obama +3</td></tr><tr class="alt"><td class="noCenter">CNN/Time</td><td>10/03 - 10/06</td><td>749 LV</td><td>50</td><td>47</td><td class="spread">Obama +3</td></tr><tr><td class="noCenter">PPP (D)</td><td>10/04 - 10/05</td><td>1239 LV</td><td>49</td><td>43</td><td class="spread">Obama +6</td></tr><tr class="alt"><td class="noCenter">ABC News/Wash Post</td><td>10/03 - 10/05</td><td>772 LV</td><td>51</td><td>45</td><td class="spread">Obama +6</td></tr></tbody></table>
 

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Obama won't win Ohio-3rd time posted

But the fun part is that it will be so close that after November 4th, every time you're in a grocery store with 50 people, you can be confident that at least 24 voted for President Obama
 

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But the fun part is that it will be so close that after November 4th, every time you're in a grocery store with 50 people, you can be confident that at least 24 voted for President Obama

Pretty retarded, illogical, and inaccurate statement on several levels. Keep rolling your blunts I see they are doing wonders for you.
 

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Is this a typical pattern for a Democrat? Actually, it's not. According to a study by Kate Kenski at the University of Arizona, early voters leaned Republican in both 2000 and 2004

'Nuf said.
 

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Yawn..

Same crap. Different year.

Every election cycle, BEFORE THE ELECTION, we hear about Democrats are crushing in early voting..

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2004/10/31/in_iowa_kerry_leads_in_early_voting.html

"Twenty-seven percent of Iowa adults surveyed said they had already voted. Kerry leads Bush, 52 percent to 41 percent, among that group of early-bird voters."

Kerry +11 on Bush in Iowa early voting,. Bush wins Iowa by 2%

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http://www.mydd.com/story/2004/11/2/135756/299

Early VNS Voting

Kerry +20% in Pennsylvania (won by 2), Kerry +4% in Ohio (Lost by 2), Kerry +3% in Florida (lost by 5), +18% in Minnesota (won by 3), +16% in New Hampshire (won by 1), +9% in Wisconsin (won by 1).


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/10/28/13112/022/368/65731

North Carolina Early Voting Party Affiliation

Democrats lead Republicans 27k-17k in Wake Country (51-33%) 14 days into early voting, Bush won Wake 177k-169k.

Democrats lead Republicans in early turnout 51-38% in Guilford County.. Guilford county goes 100-98k for Bush on election day.


http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/10/25/10017.shtml

• Early results. Polling of early convenience voting in states like Florida are not going well for President Bush. Republicans expected this, with the enormous resources pumped into the voter efforts of Democrats.




We hear this shit every election cycle how Democrats are running away with early voting... Then the next election they try to spin to say Republicans do best in early voting.

:lol::lol:
 

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Give the people what they want and use the emoticon with the little guy taking a dump.
 

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JoeC (pretending to be Sekrah),

Give the people what they want and use the emoticon with the little guy taking a dump.

Interesting post.

cut across shorty = Barman

This place is a den for multiple ID's. :toast:
 

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JoeC (pretending to be Sekrah),

Give the people what they want and use the emoticon with the little guy taking a dump.


:lolBIG::lolBIG:

Been waiting for the "Sekrah" id to pop up with a last gasp lecture of how Fred Dalton Thompson could have swung this for the Pubs if only people would have listened back to Joe back in January
 

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what's funny is how these guys all forgot how Kerry won in 2004 based on exit polling by theses bozos, and then they started to actually count the votes.

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Now we're supposed to believe the exit polling of early voters :ohno::ohno::ohno:

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just stop, and let me catch my breath

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yeah yeah...And the RedSox came back on the Yankees in 2004...We got it already

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what's funny is how these guys all forgot how Kerry won in 2004 based on exit polling by theses bozos, and then they started to actually count the votes.

Now we're supposed to believe the exit polling of early voters

just stop, and let me catch my breath
You are correct. Think he is just making note of the fact.

Nobody is claiming early victory/defeat here.

This probably accounts for less than .01% (my own guess) or something of the votes.
 

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