Early thoughts.... Indy @ New England

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The Colts drove up and down the field in last year's AFC Championship game only to see each drive fall apart ....

Remember the opening drive, Manning drove them the length of the field only to force a ball which resulted in a pick (totally an unforced error BTW)

And how can we forget the mugging going on down field? Especially on the last drive.....

With the new rules expected to be enforced on defensive pass interference...Can we expect the Colts to give New England all it can handle on opening night?

What is the cardinal rule..fade the Super Bowl Champ the first 4 weeks of the following year?

Leaning towards Indy
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Opening week best bet Carolina -2
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The Super Bowl in September. You must love that. I may watch this game only, accept the trophy and start getting ready for NBA.

GO HORSE.

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I'm more interested to see if Indy gets killed in their preseason game vs cinncy - because I believe this has an impact on the philosophy that players end up taking into the season. If they get killed then I think indy will be ready to fire on all cylinders - otherwise they may be in trouble in week one.

on the other hand belechick will have them ready for game 1 I have little doubt

ESPECIALLY if the pats have a lopsided victory or loss in tonights game vs jacksonville

I wouldnt be suprised if he lets the inmates run the prison tonight in order to teach them a lesson in preparedness prior to their opening game matchup with indy - one that counts.

Arizona in week 2 is a week off for this team - as will be the week after when they have their bye. In other words the only game the pats will be playing in the next month prior to their rematch with buffalo in week 4 will be vs Indy. They will be ready for week one.
 

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Both teams will suck ats this year, thats the first thing that comes to mind. 2nd thing that comes to mind is both teams would improve ATS if their qbs got in a car accident.
 

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Didn't New England cover 12-13 games last year?

Just wondering.
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Does anybody know the records of the previous years superbowl champs ATS the first week of the season or where that information might be acquired?

It would be an interesting conversation piece.
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Journeyman:
You expect the Colts to test the new rules early and often General? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I am sure Peyton and crew will have some tricks up their sleeves. Walters is out though, stokely and wayne somewhat hurt. Clark is questionable after injury. Can't forget Pollard. We will see.
 

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As nothing major has happened to personal in the off-season it is likely both teams will play the same sort of Football. With this in mind, the following is what I posted for the play-off game.

Posted play-off plays 3-0
Posted Reg Season plays 6-0-1


Indianapolis Colts @ New England Patriots

First of all I would like to point out the worth of reading other Forums where talk is not about betting but on how The Teams are playing from a fan point of view. This gives you an insight into how fans think their Team is doing, sometimes with surprising results. With this in mind, I got the impression, reading between the lines that Denver fans thought they were living on borrowed time with the injuries to their Defense. The win over The Colts only camouflaged the illusion. The Colts offense played a game that happens to every Team during the season, where they play flat for no apparent reason. When these games show up I totally ignore them from a valuating standpoint. The Colts- Patriot game was another one of these games, only this time my view is that too many things happened that would probably not happen again for me to make firm opinions on either Team. Both Teams scored points over my stats to a figure that The Colts haven’t achieved all season and The Patriots only once. Because of this I have not taken either game into account in my reasoning for this game

So, bearing in mind what I said about Denver, The Colts last two games have been against two desperate Defenses. Prior to that, The Colts last Three road games have bagged 20pts @ Houston, 29pts @ Tennessee ( 4 T/Os worth 9 pts) 17pts @ Buffalo. They now take on a New England Defense which ignoring The Colts game has kept Teams to under 20pts in their last 6 games, 14pts at home. With playing on grass and 0 degrees, I think The Colts will need turnovers to better 14-17pts in this game.

The Colts Defense has been OK against average Offenses this year but average to below average against the better Teams. This is a Defense that has leaked more points than my stats would indicate most of the season but recently have dipped even below that. The problem is injuries, especially the secondary, where 5 of 8 are in the wars. Bashir will not play, leaving Strickland, Doss and Bird, all injured, to sort out the safety positions. Harris, who is carrying an injury will play one corner, the other corner will be Macklin (OK) and Harper who is also not in shape to play a whole game. Add a banged up Morris, Mathis and Freeney, who seems to be spent for the year and you have a dire situation.

The Patriots Offense seems to be the sort that Brian Billick would be proud of, doing enough to win games. From my stats, they have played below average most of the season and I was looking forward to taking them on in the play-offs. Although I covered the spread in the Titans game, New England still found a way to win even playing statistically a rock bottom game, something they have done a couple of times this year. As if by fate they now get a desperate Colts Defense , which shouldn’t give them problems in any department. 24pts looks a conservative total under the circumstances and the coaches may even open things up in a bid to make The Colts one- dimensional. The Colts will need turnovers in this game to win, something given the Colts Defense, is not likely to happen.

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The obvious difference that people will pick up on this year is the enforcement of the 5 yd rule and the injuries the colts had on defence, both which will favour the colts.
My own thinking is that it was common knowledge that the umpires were less critical in the post season and The Pats wouldnt play as phyical in this game anyways. The defence is experienced enough to adapt to the new outlook.

With The colts having limited sucess, The Pats will play their usual conservative game and I am looking more to the under as the most likely outcome.
 

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winbet- I HAD the UNDER that game...it was extremely fortunate to cash that! Good Luck!
 

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One thing to remember about these new rule interpatations is that they will help the Pats offense also. My first reaction was the same as many - the rule interp. is going to hurt New England, but after watching their first string Offense play against Carolina last week I think they will be harder to stop than ever. Brady has always been very consistient at hitting open recievers, that should continue against the Colts next Thursday. Manning should also be set for a big game. I am not sure right now what side I will be betting, certainly they will be a thread closer to game time.


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NE was in virtually the same situation after their last Super Bowl win. They started off the following season on MNF at home versus Pittsburgh, the team they beat in the AFC Championship game the year before, and BURIED them. 40 something to 10 I think. I don't expect that much of a stomp, but I think NE wins by 7- 10 points. I've said it before and I'll say it again. Until Manning wins a big game I will bet against him every time. Plus, Belichik owns him. Pats win 31-21.
 

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Not sure if it means anything but the Pats were soundly beat tonite by Jacksonville:

Quinn Gray threw three touchdown passes in the final eight minutes and the Jacksonville Jaguars ended the New England Patriots' poor exhibition season with a 31-0 win Thursday night.

If there was any consolation for the Super Bowl champs, they played without most of their first-stringers, including quarterback Tom Brady, although they were healthy.

Still, the Jaguars, who ended their exhibition season at 3-1, got much better performances from their backups after starting quarterback Byron Leftwich played just three series, going 4-for-8 for 24 yards.

The Patriots (1-3) lost their third straight game, the others 31-3 at Cincinnati and 20-17 at Carolina. They open their season at home next Thursday against Indianapolis with a 15-game winning streak covering the last regular season and playoffs.

Rohan Davey didn't help his effort to secure the No. 2 job behind Brady. The offensive player of the year in NFL Europe played all but the last series and went 13-for-25 for 104 yards and two interceptions. Kliff Kingsbury finished up.

With Corey Dillon resting, Mike Cloud led New England rushers with 93 yards on 19 carries.

The Jaguars committed no turnovers, while the Patriots had five, and outgained New England 451 yards to 222.

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My advice is to stay away from this game...do not bet it...admit it, you only want to wager because you want it more exciting to watch...it aint worth it, dont touch this game.
 

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Doug you could have atleast said something about the game man lol...don't crap in my thread ...LOL JK Man!
 

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