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If you want to know his plan, listen to his speech, Ricboff. Computer Group has totally mischaracterized his plan.

I already told you that he's going after manufacturers, doctors, pharmacists, dealers, mules, countries and anyone who facilitates the abuse of opioids. But you want to look right by what I said. There has never been such a comprehensive plan. Calling it a dog and pony show shows total lack of confidence and support for the man's efforts.

http://rsbn.tv/watch-president-trump-delivers-remarks-on-opioid-epidemic/
 

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okay.....i know you're a big fan.....stay well . The fact that you cant explain in your own words his 'changes' has me concerned. I'll click the link and also refer to medical sources
 
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okay.....i know you're a big fan.....stay well . The fact that you cant explain in your own words his 'changes' has me concerned. I'll click the link and also refer to medical sources

I can explain. You want me to write a thesis? It's a big, comprehensive plan. I told you WHO he was going after. It's a multi faceted approach.

Medical source perspectives would be totally inadequate to understanding his total plan.

And yes I am a big fan of ANYONE who wants to take the approaches necessary to extinguish this blight which is strongly seating itself in America, much to America's detriment.
 
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PS Ricboff,

I know that you are an investor. In the speech he also mentioned that in the next few weeks he, Trump, and the former president of Eli Lilly who is now on team Trump are going to be going after medical drug pricing. Might be a good short opportunity. The biotechs and drug companies are somewhere in the stratosphere as I'm sure you know.

Would be interested in your take on that.
 
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Drug users bare some responsibility in this matter too.

See I'm no hater. You have the smartest response in here.

Go ahead and get rid of drug dealers and see if there isnt another 10 people willing to step in those same shoes.

Going to prison for life or death penalty isn't going to stop someone who doesn't have anything from selling drugs.

Trump can look at those countries as successful with drugs that's nice...but there are other ways of going about it...Portugal has everything legal and less people are using there now.


If you get rid of drug dealers. Someone else will fill their void and the users will still be using... probably worse stuff than before.

If you go after( in a way) the drug users. Just the people who want to buy and use drugs.....if you address that then the drug dealers will more so fade away than ever before.

Simple economics.
 

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PS Ricboff,

I know that you are an investor. In the speech he also mentioned that in the next few weeks he, Trump, and the former president of Eli Lilly who is now on team Trump are going to be going after medical drug pricing. Might be a good short opportunity. The biotechs and drug companies are somewhere in the stratosphere as I'm sure you know.

Would be interested in your take on that.


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See I'm no hater. You have the smartest response in here.

Go ahead and get rid of drug dealers and see if there isnt another 10 people willing to step in those same shoes.

Going to prison for life or death penalty isn't going to stop someone who doesn't have anything from selling drugs.

Trump can look at those countries as successful with drugs that's nice...but there are other ways of going about it...Portugal has everything legal and less people are using there now.


If you get rid of drug dealers. Someone else will fill their void and the users will still be using... probably worse stuff than before.

If you go after( in a way) the drug users. Just the people who want to buy and use drugs.....if you address that then the drug dealers will more so fade away than ever before.

Simple economics.

The war on drugs is a joke and we all know it but in America, we act as if the supply of drugs is the problem when it's not. It's the demand for the drugs from our rich white neighborhoods.

Ok, you want to put a drug dealer in jail...got it. Doesn't the drug user share some of the responsibility? We hold people accountable for making the decision to drive drunk. We don't prosecute the beer maker. Why don't we do the same with drug users/abusers?
 
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The war on drugs is a joke and we all know it but in America, we act as if the supply of drugs is the problem when it's not. It's the demand for the drugs from our rich white neighborhoods.

Ok, you want to put a drug dealer in jail...got it. Doesn't the drug user share some of the responsibility? We hold people accountable for making the decision to drive drunk. We don't prosecute the beer maker. Why don't we do the same with drug users/abusers?

You're right. He's clearly focusing on the wrong spectrum here. I don't hate Trump like some think here. I actually trust him with trade and negotiating with other nations. But some of his beliefs in how to go about things he's clueless. I don't care if people think he is a successful businessman. He's got a lot of money yeah, but that doesn't mean he's a true winner or has our countries solutions. He should know better honestly.

Look at the weed game. These despensary shops are sending out emails, text alerts. Get deals on your weed. I always said man these pot shops will never contend with the black market.....I was wrong...yeah they are. I'm not saying go get your heroine at CVS. But there are ways to go about it. A few years ago they were giving pills away like candy for every single issue you could give some pain killers. It's all about the cash until there is a widespread problem. But once they figure out how to do it and capitalize maximum profit, everything will be legal lol. Greed and money is the cause for everything in this country. Put all of the drug dealers out of business.
 

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by L Russell

it is time to end the war on drugs and the social ailments that comes with it: crime, health issues, homelessness and premature deaths. We have the means to accomplish this, just legalize drugs and treat it as the health issue it is, which addiction is.
In 2001, Portugal decriminalized drugs much to the consternation of its critics and the warnings of chaos and ruin. However, in the 17 years since, Portugal has seen a drop in first-time users, especially in the 15- to 24-year age group, a decline in overall usage, a sharp decline in drug-related deaths and HIV infections, and a decline in imprisonment. Portugal also moved its drug control from law enforcement and the Justice Department to its Ministry of Health and created a public health model for treating drug addiction.
We have alcohol, gambling and other addictions, which are treated as health problems. This is where our money should be spent, which would create jobs and stop most drug-related crimes, and result in saving money by not tying up the court system, reduce overcrowding in jails, and reduce the workload of law enforcement while saving lives.
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A couple of years ago, the Lancet and Johns Hopkins University reported that when Portugal and the Czech Republic decriminalized non-violent drug offenses, the results showed compelling health benefits, saved money and did not promote drug use. In another article, the former presidents of Mexico, Brazil and Colombia all said the war on drugs was “an unmitigated disaster.” The only thing the prohibition did was to make organized crime families and private prison industries wealthier, but did not help the afflicted.
The prohibition of alcohol did not stop the consumption of alcohol, but drove the production of it underground. Today, while legal, it still kills both the drinker and those unfortunate enough to be in their driven path.

The most recent reports show that Australia, Canada, Chile, Colombia, Costa Rica, India, Israel, Jamaica, Mexico, the Netherlands, South Africa, Spain, Uruguay, and the Czech Republic are following the trail led by Portugal.
If we were to legalize cannabis/drugs, where would the push back come from? Follow the money and it will lead you to drug cartels, the private prison industry, most law enforcement agencies that benefit from asset forfeiture laws, drug companies, religious and rehab organizations, and politicians who worry about their next election. A platform of crippling the drug cartels, saving lives, stopping most related crimes and a lot of homelessness looks like a candidate I would vote for.
The modern-day policing was founded in 1829 by Sir Robert Peel, whose policing principles included preventing crime, not catching criminals. “If the police stop crime before it happens, we don’t have to punish citizens or suppress their rights. An effective police department doesn’t have high arrests stats; its community has low crime rates.”
There is a large and growing coalition among law enforcement who organized to bring about a change in our drug laws. Law Enforcement Action Partnership (L.E.A.P.) is a group of more than 5,000 former police, judges, prosecutors, and other criminal justice professionals and more than 100,000 supporters as of 2017 using their expertise to find solutions to our country’s drug problem while enhancing public safety.
L.E.A.P.’s initial focus was on ending the war on drugs, but has expanded to include improving police-community relations, reducing crime and violence associated with the war on drugs, reducing and finding alternatives to incarceration, improving public health policies to lessen the negative social and physical consequences associated with drug abuse.
We have the answer to this problem, but do we have the public and political will to do so? It is time for a change. What we are doing is not working and is, instead, promoting a killing field of our young.


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how bold was Portugal?

the AMA and ADA both have changed guidelines on narcotic rx's/dosaging. This was a done awhile ago. Not sure what this 'decrease narcotic rx's by 1/3rd ' is all about......huh?


 

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[FONT=&quot]Donald Trump has said the Department of Justice may sue pharmaceutical companies for their role in flooding communities with opioids.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“Our Department of Justice is looking very seriously into bringing major litigation against some of these drug companies”, Mr Trump said during a speech in Manchester, New Hampshire laying out his plans to combat an addiction epidemic.


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wait, don't you sue the tobacco companies first?....LOL!!


these companies make a product the medical community asks for. What am i missing?



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When Dr. Eriko Onishi came to the United States from her home country of Japan, she ended up with culture shock on the number of opioids being prescribed.
Onishi got her medical training in Japan and spent about a year there practicing medicine before coming to the United States. She was used to that country’s strict attitudes around opioid painkillers like Vicodin or Oxycontin, which are generally only prescribed in cases where a patient is in severe pain, as with cancer. In Japan, opioids for acute pain aren’t typically covered by insurance.
When Onishi started practicing family medicine in Oregon, she was shocked to see patients getting opioids for injuries as minor as toothaches and sprained ankles. And she started seeing a disturbing trend among her own patients: people constantly requesting opioids for pain.
“It’s the patient begging you to ‘give me the opioid,’” Onishi said.
Onishi started wondering about a question at the heart of the American opioid crisis: Why is the United States such an outlier when it comes to dependence on powerful, addictive painkillers? After all, people in other countries also break bones, have surgery, and suffer from back pain and arthritis.
But the United States stands out for the sheer amount of opioids like Vicodin and Oxycontin it consumes, fueling a deadly drug epidemic. With just 4 percent of the world’s population, the US accounts for about 27 percent of the world’s drug overdose deaths.
The federal government estimated 8.5 million Americans, about 3 percent of the population, misused opioid painkillers in 2015, and 2.5 million were addicted to either painkillers or heroin. More than 33,000 people died that year from overdoses.
The European Union’s entire population exceeds that of the United States, but it has a fraction of the opioid use. Out of the approximately 507 million people living in the EU in 2014, 1.3 million — or 0.4 percent — were considered high-risk opioid users. That same year, officials recorded 6,800 drug overdose deaths in the EU; opioids were to blame in about 80 percent of those deaths.


There are no corresponding statistics for Japan, but if you compare the United States to the entire continent of Asia, you see a similar picture. In 2015, 52,400 Americans died from drug overdoses, while about 62,000 people in Asia did.
Part of the difference is cultural: American and Japanese doctors view pain differently. Part of it is regulatory: In Europe, opioids are much more tightly regulated. The American opioid epidemic is what you get when you pair a culture that values treating pain at all costs with a regulatory environment that makes dangerous and addictive drugs relatively easy to obtain
 
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Listen to his opioid speech in New Hampshire today.

He's going after manufacturers, doctors, pharmacists, dealers, mules, countries and anyone who facilitates the use of opioids.

The man has a plan of substance. If we want to defeat this brutal problem we should support his efforts. Anything less will result in failure, just like anything less has brought us.

Id love to see his plan for going after the manufacturers. Since the FDA, which is under the jurisdiction of the federal government, approves these drugs for release, won’t he in a way be going after the government itself? And do you really think going after all these facilitators will stop the druggies from finding other ways to overdose? A druggie, much like a crazy man who wants to kill someone, will find a way to get high and possibly overdose. Just like the crazy man will find a way to kill someone if you take away guns.
 

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You guys are DAMM IDIOTS comparing his idea to the 1980s!!
UNINFORMED.. who the HELL do you think was supplieing the drugs the last 35 YEARS!!!!

THE CIA!!!
If he continues on this trajectory, QANON says the CIA will be Broken into 1000 pieces!!!

You het rid of them.. and your supply goes to ZEROOOOOOOO... NOW YOUR RELEGATED back to the 1960s and 70s, buying a little weed from your highschool buddies...

God bless America!
God bless President Trump
 
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What's funny is the government are the biggest drug dealers of them all. We just do it very discreetly compared to other countries
 
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Ricboff,

We're definitely off topic here but the thread is dead anyway...

What I was saying above is that biotech stocks seem ripe for shorting, especially with the President saying that he was going to do something in the near future to lower the price of legitimate drugs that people rely on.

The index I thought was ripe for shorting was:

^NBI

Maybe you could look at that and tell us what you think (not a financial index)
 

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